Interdict brought by Dotco: Telkom sets the record straight

I just hope someone in the media takes a look at MAD's view of these "Telkom facts" and actually does an article on it. The more Telkom is shown to stick its foot in its mouth (like Ivy), the better.
 
mozez said:
I just hope someone in the media takes a look at MAD's view of these "Telkom facts" and actually does an article on it. The more Telkom is shown to stick its foot in its mouth (like Ivy), the better.
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Exactly, I would love to see some of the news agencies get on Telkoms case after they (the media) have been accused of reporting the facts incorrectly LOL. Plenty of ammo in Telkoms press statements hehe.
 
Sneeky said:
Plenty of ammo in Telkoms press statements hehe.
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That's why I love it when they say something, it always has holes in it and the facts are never 100% correct. They also bend the truth like that Russian guy with the forks. Crazy.
 
So on one hand Telkom releases that statement. And on the other hand they are sending a Telkom forum representative.

If their official statement is (1) full of mistakes (lies) and (2) they are maintaining that 3GB is sufficient and (3) that their products are comparable to international products then what is the point of sending a Telkom forum representative?

What do they take us for?
 
M-net supplies DSTV (sattelite) at 46+ channels of streaming media at R380 per month. If a standard 1.5hr movie is 4.5gig, you can watch 4.5 gig x 16 movies per day = 72gig of data per day at R12.67 per day.
If bandwidth is so expensive, the DSTV consumer would pay R5700 per day at Telkom's prices of R75 per gig. Maybe Telkom must buy bandwidth from M-net to give us broadband at 18 cents per gig same as DSTV subscribers.
 
International norm?

It should be noted that broadband capping is an international norm. Both the British Telecommunication 512k services have a 15 gigabyte a month cap, while its 1 megabyte service has a 30 gigabyte limit. Other telecommunications companies that employ a similar practice include Australia’s Telstra, Belgium’s Belgacom and New Zealand Telecom.
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I guess I must live in a different world ... when I was living in the UK (a bit over a year ago) I had a 512Kb service for about 20GBP (220 Rand) including line charges and without any cap. In the mean time speeds have gone up and prices have gone down.

When I was living in Germany (almost 3 years ago) I had a similar connection for about 50 Euro (300 Rand) without any cap.

I am not sure about the situation in Belgium (my home country), but I do know there is plenty of competition between the cable company and the telephone company creating low prices for high-speed access.

So how exactly is this an "international norm"? Can you we sue Telkom for false statements? Especially since I saw a recent add where they tell me I should get ADSL to download "the Matrix"!?!??! I guess when you are a monopoly it doesn´t matter what you say? :mad:
 
pimal3 said:
M-net supplies DSTV (sattelite) at 46+ channels of streaming media at R380 per month. If a standard 1.5hr movie is 4.5gig, you can watch 4.5 gig x 16 movies per day = 72gig of data per day at R12.67 per day.
If bandwidth is so expensive, the DSTV consumer would pay R5700 per day at Telkom's prices of R75 per gig. Maybe Telkom must buy bandwidth from M-net to give us broadband at 18 cents per gig same as DSTV subscribers.
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LOL - we can only dream of paying R12.67 per day for our daily 72GB, not to mention having a 3GB downsteam! :D

...then I woke up! ;)
 
BobTheUglgBunny said:
If you are a normal (the large majority of adsl users) who use less than 3gig this whole thing is good cause it will be cheaper for them.
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If you use less than 3 Gigs you probably should not be on ADSL. ADSL is called a broadband technology, meaning it was created to use bandwidth intensive applications such as streaming audio, review of news video clips that are widely available across the internet, software downloads such as Linux Distributions (typically about 2-3GB), keeping your website up to date with your latest Photos, etc. I use at least 6GB a month with just very limited usage. I can only dream of actually doing something interesting such as watching streaming video or installing a webcam with the slow speeds and non-existing caps here.

If you just use it to check e-mail and "browse the web", you are using the wrong technology!

BTW, I doubt you will find many users in Europe or the US that actually use less than 3GB!

Also, where have you seen rates go down? Maybe I am missing something, but it seems to me the 3GB are still costing the same as before ...
 
Many users use less than 3GB simply because they do not wish to be capped in the same way that many motorists do not exceed the speed limit to avoid being fined.

If the vast majority of users do not exceed the cap then Telkom should not have any problem lifting the cap...Hmm?
 
From november the first i will be going to an IS account something like openweb , does this mean that i wont be giving telkom any money , or just less money ? What would happen if we all went over to IS and left saix/telkom out of it , would they notice ? November could be a great month to give telkom a wake up call , by not sucking it down and going with a 3 gig hard cap .

If we all went to a 3 gig int cap with a 27 local cap surely we could use that to show telkom what the people REALLY want , not this crap that they are feeding us . We are still paying for the 3 gig but we are getting the 27 gigs local which as a gamer is what i need , and i will be very happy knowing that i have 27 local gig to use at no extra cost other than the R300 i am going to pay per month , plus a local proxy is great for keeping up to date with events , i will be using my local gigs with a lot of joy knowing that in some small way i am giving telkom something they dont want me to have ..... Choice .
 
Yup, I will be getting myself one of those accounts to after 1 Nov. Any isp rec's?
 
ICASA. Hello Yoohoo. Where are you??

Now where was ICASA?
They should be instating legal action against Telkom as the whole ADSL price structure is in dispute, not Dotco?

It always has to be the little man or small company like Dotco who has to fork out legal fees for something that should never have happened in the first place while the very organisation called ICASA that is supposed to protect the consumer against exploitation sits back and has done absolutely squat although they are fully aware of the situation.

And I cannot see why the whole Interdict was set aside as Not Urgent?
How much in Rand terms is Telkom going to squeeze out of us until the actual case is heard in December.
One can only imagine that the Telkom legal team is on top form as usual.

Enjoy your ray of sunshine while it lasts, Telkom.
The consumers out here are not charmed at all. :mad:

Sorry if I have come in and added input that is not new or said before.
I have been very busy at work and I am trying to catch up with the latest events.
 
Communication in South Africa will come right the same as :
Government hospitals are coming right.
Education is coming right.
Housing is coming right.
Jobs are coming right
etc..........
 
bekdik said:
The only things coming, are the self abusers of which Telkom speaks ...
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that was soooo ambiguous it's not even funny...actually it is funny, but ya O_O
 
Can we set the record straight? Dotco is brave and feels something for ADSL users, Telkom feels nothing but contempt. I trust the media will report this
 
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What you mean set the record straight? Isn't that what everyone thinks anyway?

@bttb: Last I heard the people at ICASA who deal with this were on a months leave
 
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