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The_Unbeliever
Honorary Master
<conspiracy theorist alert>
does naspers know something of what will happen to the south african broadband and internet scene in a few months time? If they've spend money to bring mweb into the black, and it's a profitable business, then why sell it?
Unless they anticipate some trouble ahead...
</conspiracy theory alert>
Mweb still is too expensive for myself. Prefer to use googlemail (free) and a cheap adsl account - works out cheaper than an mweb account.
does naspers know something of what will happen to the south african broadband and internet scene in a few months time? If they've spend money to bring mweb into the black, and it's a profitable business, then why sell it?
Unless they anticipate some trouble ahead...
</conspiracy theory alert>
Mweb still is too expensive for myself. Prefer to use googlemail (free) and a cheap adsl account - works out cheaper than an mweb account.
Roman4604
Executive Member
Sheees all this speculation when the situation is relatively simple ...
[Q] What would it require to get MWEB to the next level (from current position as value-add super re-seller)?
[A] Heavy investment in infrastrucutre; regional fibre for backhaul, national backbone, undersea cable capacity, WiMAX BSs, DSLAMs etc. for unbundled exchanges, and so on.
[Q] Strategically is the Nasper (media) group in the business of large comm infrastructure rollout, thereby acting like a Telco?
[A] No.
[Q] So what would it take to raise MWEB to the next competitive level without compromising group strategic direction?
[A] Sell them to a Telco.
No more complex than the above.
[Q] What would it require to get MWEB to the next level (from current position as value-add super re-seller)?
[A] Heavy investment in infrastrucutre; regional fibre for backhaul, national backbone, undersea cable capacity, WiMAX BSs, DSLAMs etc. for unbundled exchanges, and so on.
[Q] Strategically is the Nasper (media) group in the business of large comm infrastructure rollout, thereby acting like a Telco?
[A] No.
[Q] So what would it take to raise MWEB to the next competitive level without compromising group strategic direction?
[A] Sell them to a Telco.
No more complex than the above.
[Q] What Telco has established a ISP business that it wants to expand?
[A] Uhm...
[Q] What Telco has gone to great lengths to secure WiMax spectrum?
[A] Uhm ...
Hint: Starts with a V!
[Q] What Telco already has a partnership with Naspers?
[A] Uhm ...
Circle of life ?
Roll back a few years and a certain V offloaded it's shares in Tiscali Worldonline, which became Tiscali, who offloaded to MWEB, now MWEB being offloaded, and a certain V might be looking at again....
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lilDeath
Executive Member
LOL... what BS
BTW - They (MWEB) have ads running on all major TV AND RADIO stations at the moment. Covering all their different products and even their cheaper Polka alternative.
I've even seen some full-page ads in newspapers.
Circle of life ?
Roll back a few years and a certain V offloaded it's shares in Tiscali Worldonline, which became Tiscali, who offloaded to MWEB, now MWEB being offloaded, and a certain V might be looking at again....
See post #32 here
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Roman4604
Executive Member
V's problem is the competition commision. Ever wonder why they didn't get anywhere with Verizon?
Anyways you're looking at it with SA blinkers on.
dominic
Legal Expert: Telecoms
all valid points i think although i cannot see Vodacom doing the deal for the competition issues raised by Roman4604
i also think that the current licence conversion/licensing stuff up is not doing the major ISPs any favours at all. you look at a WiMax play but are prevented from rolling it out while Vodacom circumvent ICASA's wishes by buying into WBS and are acting as if they have an ECA licence already...i.e. your competition, which had deeper pockets to begin with, is busy running off into the distance
it appears there have been more than 200 expressions of interest with Citibank (the advisors) having to do some serious weeding out