iOS 7.1 released.

[alatheia]

Wifi sync issues still occur with Airport Extreme Base Station. Funny that the iPad and MBP connect better to the MWEB Technicolor network than the one set up by the Airport Extreme. Apple products are simply not that compatible with each other, it's better to always get from compatible vendors.

I wonder when we can be expecting a patch for wifi issues. New to Apple culture, it somewhat irks me to have sync trouble after buying a premium product. It seems that this will become a benchmark test for patience and not device performance.

 

[[)roi(]]

@alatheia
I'm experiencing no problems across multiple iPhones, iPads, MBPs, iMacs, Mac Minis...

The problem you're experiencing IMO is unique to you.

Some tips: make sure you have the latest iTunes, applied the latest OS X updates and of so too for iOS.

Then use a USB cable to attach your iPhone to your MBP, launch iTunes and once your device appears make sure WIFI Sync is enabled, and sync your device.

Next, remember WIFI sync only automatically syncs when your iPhone is charging; you can however trigger it manually on your iPhone or via iTunes on your MBP. Finally for WIFI sync to work iTunes must be running on your MBP, and lastly the success of your WIFI sync connection hinges off the reliability of your WIFI network; incorrect bridging of multiple routers and/or filters will cause WIFI to fail continuously or even not work at all.

 

[[)roi(]]

Works great. No lag with typing. No lag with games and apps after they loaded. Everything is smooth. We're talking going from Vista to XP here.

Wifi sync issues still occur with Airport Extreme Base Station. Funny that the iPad and MBP connect better to the MWEB Technicolor network than the one set up by the Airport Extreme. Apple products are simply not that compatible with each other, it's better to always get from compatible vendors.

The problems I believe are endemic to something in your setup, certainly not the Airport Extreme.

FYI I employ a lot of Airport Extremes (various models) without any issues. PM me if you'd like some help to isolate the cause and / or alter your setup.

 

[alatheia]

The problems I believe are endemic to something in your setup, certainly not the Airport Extreme

A know issue on some devices running 7.05 and it has been discussed elsewhere on Apple related forums. This came with 7.05 and has yet to be fixed. I just tried with my new 7.1 update and it still did not work. iPhone 5 16GB.

 

[alatheia]

@alatheia
I'm experiencing no problems across multiple iPhones, iPads, MBPs, iMacs, Mac Minis...

The problem you're experiencing IMO is unique to you.

Some tips: make sure you have the latest iTunes, applied the latest OS X updates and of so too for iOS.

Then use a USB cable to attach your iPhone to your MBP, launch iTunes and once your device appears make sure WIFI Sync is enabled, and sync your device.

Next, remember WIFI sync only automatically syncs when your iPhone is charging; you can however trigger it manually on your iPhone or via iTunes on your MBP. Finally for WIFI sync to work iTunes must be running on your MBP, and lastly the success of your WIFI sync connection hinges off the reliability of your WIFI network; incorrect bridging of multiple routers and/or filters will cause WIFI to fail continuously or even not work at all.

Not unique, others have reported same and I also visited local Mac boffins. It was also reported on different Mac forums, read it a while ago. It does not affect all devices but only some ever since 7.05. I was advised on another Mac forum today that 7.1 did not fix this known issue and he was right. I updated all and no, it still is not working.

Here are some links:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5461305?tstart=0

https://discussions.apple.com/message/23099492#23099492

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1595220

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booleanman
Re: Can't Wifi Connect to iPhone 5 or iPad 2 with iOS 7 without USB Connection to Computer
Dec 21, 2013 3:43 PM (in response to Larry144)
It looks like there are bugs in iOS 7 involving wifi syncing. I've spent about 2 months with AppleCare support trying to resolve wifi syncing issues with iOS 7 devices and iTunes with various macs on various networks, and it's just broken for some users.

As of Dec 21, 2013, I was informed that the engineers were out of troubleshooting options and they were investigating the problem as a bug.

The bug doesn't seem to affect everyone, but if you are affected, I'd suggest that you continue syncing over USB until a fix is issued in a future build of iOS/iTunes.
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[Napalm2880]

Need 2.5GB free space to install a 268MB update on my 5S. :wtf:

 

[alatheia]

The problems I believe are endemic to something in your setup, certainly not the Airport Extreme.

I missed this….it is directly between the MBP 13" i5 with up-to-date ML on the one hand and iPhone 5 on the other, with iOS 7.04, 7.05, 7.06 and then 7.1. Under iOS6, it worked well and there also was not that terrible battery drain, which was/is a second known issue. No, it does not involve Airport Extreme at all.

Did the 7.1 214MB update last night that ate 1.2GB data or even a bit more.

 

[Gulio]

Need 2.5GB free space to install a 268MB update on my 5S. :wtf:

16GB?

 

[Space_Chief]

The problems I believe are endemic to something in your setup, certainly not the Airport Extreme.

FYI I employ a lot of Airport Extremes (various models) without any issues. PM me if you'd like some help to isolate the cause and / or alter your setup.

The problem is due to Apple hardware not working well together. At least in my case. It works in yours, not in mine. Thanks.

Thanks for your offer of help but I'm not entirely incompetent myself. And this should work seamlessly. It doesn't work seamlessly. Requiring massive troubleshooting efforts is not the Apple way.

 

[Space_Chief]

I missed this….it is directly between the MBP 13" i5 with up-to-date ML on the one hand and iPhone 5 on the other, with iOS 7.04, 7.05, 7.06 and then 7.1. Under iOS6, it worked well and there also was not that terrible battery drain, which was/is a second known issue. No, it does not involve Airport Extreme at all.

Did the 7.1 214MB update last night that ate 1.2GB data or even a bit more.

He was responding to me. I have recently had issues with my iPad 3rd Gen not wanting to connect to the Wifi network on my AEBS 5th Gen. Updating to iOS 7.1 did not help.

 

[[)roi(]]

The problem is due to Apple hardware not working well together. At least in my case. It works in yours, not in mine. Thanks.

Thanks for your offer of help but I'm not entirely incompetent myself. And this should work seamlessly. It doesn't work seamlessly. Requiring massive troubleshooting efforts is not the Apple way.

Ok great, in that case...
If you're still struggling I'd point you to look at the way both routers interact; dBm, noise, channels, ... utility apps like inSSIDer and iStumbler can help identify channel and frequency overloading (your neighbour's WIFI could have an impact)

I'd also suggest Ethernet wiring the WIFI routers together as opposed to WIFI bridging (in my experience, using bridging is far more pain than gain)

 

[[)roi(]]

Not unique, others have reported same and I also visited local Mac boffins. It was also reported on different Mac forums, read it a while ago. It does not affect all devices but only some ever since 7.05. I was advised on another Mac forum today that 7.1 did not fix this known issue and he was right. I updated all and no, it still is not working.

Here are some links:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5461305?tstart=0

https://discussions.apple.com/message/23099492#23099492

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1595220

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booleanman
Re: Can't Wifi Connect to iPhone 5 or iPad 2 with iOS 7 without USB Connection to Computer
Dec 21, 2013 3:43 PM (in response to Larry144)
It looks like there are bugs in iOS 7 involving wifi syncing. I've spent about 2 months with AppleCare support trying to resolve wifi syncing issues with iOS 7 devices and iTunes with various macs on various networks, and it's just broken for some users.

As of Dec 21, 2013, I was informed that the engineers were out of troubleshooting options and they were investigating the problem as a bug.

The bug doesn't seem to affect everyone, but if you are affected, I'd suggest that you continue syncing over USB until a fix is issued in a future build of iOS/iTunes.
Unquote

PM me if you want help

 

[alatheia]

Ok great, in that case...
If you're still struggling I'd point you to look at the way both routers interact; dBm, noise, channels, ... utility apps like inSSIDer and iStumbler can help identify channel and frequency overloading (your neighbour's WIFI could have an impact)

I'd also suggest Ethernet wiring the WIFI routers together as opposed to WIFI bridging (in my experience, using bridging is far more pain than gain)

Just shows.......you can teach an old dog new tricks. I retired from ICT at about the same time wireless started to happen. I am out of depth here. Very strong wifi signals from all neighbours, hotels, pubs & clubs as well as guest houses all within 200m with me in the middle. I never even gave that a thought.

 

[[)roi(]]

Just shows.......you can teach an old dog new tricks. I retired from ICT at about the same time wireless started to happen. I am out of depth here. Very strong wifi signals from all neighbours, hotels, pubs & clubs as well as guest houses all within 200m with me in the middle. I never even gave that a thought.

@alatheia
OS X also has a few hidden network utilities that might interest you;
Option(alt) click on the wifi signal bar icon in the menu bar which will reveal some extra details about your WIFI connection, and if that's not enough then click on "Open Wireless Diagnostics..." at the bottom of the same menu.

It'll then ask for your OS X password...
A Wireless Diagnostics window will appear, ignore that and go to the wireless diagnostics menu, Click on "Window" and then click on "Utilities" for a more comprehensive network utilities bundle, covering: frame capture, WIFI and system log packaging, WIFI network scanning, Performance graphs to monitor noise dBM, RSSI dBM & Signal to Noise Ratio (SNR)

Hope this helps...

 

[alatheia]

@alatheia
OS X also has a few hidden network utilities that might interest you;
Option(alt) click on the wifi signal bar icon in the menu bar which will reveal some extra details about your WIFI connection, and if that's not enough then click on "Open Wireless Diagnostics..." at the bottom of the same menu.

It'll then ask for your OS X password...
A Wireless Diagnostics window will appear, ignore that and go to the wireless diagnostics menu, Click on "Window" and then click on "Utilities" for a more comprehensive network utilities bundle, covering: frame capture, WIFI and system log packaging, WIFI network scanning, Performance graphs to monitor noise dBM, RSSI dBM & Signal to Noise Ratio (SNR)

Hope this helps...

Thanks a million for this advice. Will do this tomorrow soonest.

 

[[)roi(]]

@alatheia

Thanks a million for this advice. Will do this tomorrow soonest.

1 more vital addition to SNR (Signal to noise ratio), i.e. what determines a good connection.

> 40dB SNR = Excellent signal (5 bars)
25dB to 40dB SNR = Very good signal (3 - 4 bars)
15dB to 25dB SNR = Low signal (2 bars)
10dB - 15dB SNR = very low signal (1 bar)
5dB to 10dB SNR = no signal

Naturally environmental conditions will constantly change, hence the need for a graph to measure this over time. If in the end your SNR is fine, then suggested next step would be to validate that all the required iTunes ports are active and open.

In a few cases; some routers can block certain packets in bridging between the LAN and WIFI; often Apple's bonjour packets are the ones being blocked; these packets of course are vital to device and service discovery (e.g. iTunes WIFI Sync).

 

[Veren]

Download error on iphone 5? Please help

 

[Space_Chief]

Ok great, in that case...
If you're still struggling I'd point you to look at the way both routers interact; dBm, noise, channels, ... utility apps like inSSIDer and iStumbler can help identify channel and frequency overloading (your neighbour's WIFI could have an impact)

I'd also suggest Ethernet wiring the WIFI routers together as opposed to WIFI bridging (in my experience, using bridging is far more pain than gain)

Hi,

I have looked at these things. Things like Multicast rate on the AEBS (set now to low), different channels and so on. I'm not happy with the performance of the AEBS. Compared to the MWEB Technicolor, the MWEB FON router has better range.

I don't have many networks around too. I have someone running an external Ubiquity thing but the signal is weak although all devices always pick it up.

 

[cerebus]

Installed on iPad Mini and iPhones, and then found out there's no jailbreak and the jailbreak might never happen. Ah well.

 

[Dave]

Installed on iPad Mini and iPhones, and then found out there's no jailbreak and the jailbreak might never happen. Ah well.

You should have read the thread first .

Post #1

For those wanting it, iOS 7.1 has been released.

Don't update if you want to keep the jailbreak though, 7.1 has patched the evasi0n exploit.