iPhone 5 to reverse Android surge?

Eish! that itunes business is real pain - when my sister-in-law got her iPad2, she wanted to load some her own work pdf documents on - after much head scratching and fiddling about with itunes and apps and whatnot (after all, this thing is supposed to be so blinking easy to use), a quick Google (oh the irony) directed her to the "email it to yourself" method.

On my droid, copy to SD, badaboom - thank you sir!
 
Eish! that itunes business is real pain - when my sister-in-law got her iPad2, she wanted to load some her own work pdf documents on - after much head scratching and fiddling about with itunes and apps and whatnot (after all, this thing is supposed to be so blinking easy to use), a quick Google (oh the irony) directed her to the "email it to yourself" method.

On my droid, copy to SD, badaboom - thank you sir!

iTunes is the main reason why I left the Apple walled garden.

Want to copy music? You need iTunes! Want to copy pictures? You need iTunes! Want to get ANYTHING on your bloody expensive Apple device? YOU NEED iTunes!

And they don't even have the decency to tell you that when you install iTunes, Bonjour! will also now install itself on your pc.

Glad I'm done with that nonsense. Life is just too short.
 
Symantec on iOS vs Android security:


Symantec Analysis of Apple’s iOS and Google’s Android Platform Cites Improved Security over PCs, but Major Gaps Remain

The mass adoption of both consumer and managed mobile devices exposes enterprises to new security risks

MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif. – June 28, 2011 – Symantec Corp. (Nasdaq: SYMC) today announced the publication of “A Window into Mobile Device Security: Examining the security approaches employed in Apple’s iOS and Google’s Android” (PDF). This whitepaper conducts an in-depth, technical evaluation of the two predominant mobile platforms, Apple’s iOS and Google’s Android, in an effort to help corporations understand the security risks of deploying these devices in the enterprise.

Chief among the findings is that while the most popular mobile platforms in use today were designed with security in mind, these provisions are not always sufficient to protect sensitive enterprise assets that regularly find their way onto devices. Complicating matters, today’s mobile devices are increasingly being connected to and synchronized with an entire ecosystem of 3rd-party cloud and desktop-based services outside the enterprise’s control, potentially exposing key enterprise assets to increased risk.

The paper offers a detailed analysis of the security models employed by Apple’s iOS and Google’s Android platforms, evaluating each platform’s effectiveness against today’s major threats, including:

Web-based and network-based attacks
Malware
Social engineering attacks
Resource and service availability abuse
Malicious and unintentional data loss
Attacks on the integrity of the device’s data
This analysis has led to some important conclusions:

While offering improved security over traditional desktop-based operating systems, both iOS and Android are still vulnerable to many existing categories of attacks.
iOS’s security model offers strong protection against traditional malware, primarily due to Apple’s rigorous app certification process and their developer certification process, which vets the identity of each software author and weeds out attackers.
Google has opted for a less rigorous certification model, permitting any software developer to create and release apps anonymously, without inspection. This lack of certification has arguably led to today’s increasing volume of Android-specific malware.
Users of both Android and iOS devices regularly synchronize their devices with 3rd-party cloud services (e.g., web-based calendars) and with their home desktop computers. This can potentially expose sensitive enterprise data stored on these devices to systems outside the governance of the enterprise..
So-called “jailbroken” devices, or devices whose security has been disabled, offer attractive targets for attackers since these devices are every bit as vulnerable as traditional PCs.
Quotes:

“Today’s mobile devices are a mixed bag when it comes to security,” said Carey Nachenberg, Symantec Fellow and Chief Architect, Symantec Security Technology and Response. “While more secure than traditional PCs, these platforms are still vulnerable to many traditional attacks. Moreover, enterprise employees are increasingly using unmanaged, personal devices to access sensitive enterprise resources, and then connecting these devices to 3rd-party services outside of the governance of the enterprise, potentially exposing key assets to attackers.”

About Security Technology and Response

The Security Technology and Response (STAR) organization, which includes Security Response, is a worldwide team of security engineers, threat analysts and researchers that provides the underlying functionality, content and support for all Symantec corporate and consumer security products. With Response centers located throughout the world, STAR monitors malicious code reports from more than 130 million systems across the Internet, receives data from 240,000 network sensors in more than 200 countries and tracks more than 25,000 vulnerabilities affecting more than 55,000 technologies from more than 8,000 vendors. The team uses this vast intelligence to develop and deliver the world’s most comprehensive security protection.
 
I think the last number that steve jobs gave was that there were 230 000 activations a day, but remember, this was before the Verizon iPhone was out.

I hate being the devils advocate
 
Who cares about how many Android activations there are? What does it matter? If Android owns 80% of the market, so what? Windows dominates the PC OS market, so does that make it the best OS? Volume does not equate to quality. You all should know that.
 
The world market is flooded with cheap Android devices. Should Apple do the same just to be able to brag on MyBroadband that it had more activations?

One iOS phone sells unbelievably well. Apple makes way way more money than these Android manufacturers.
 
The world market is flooded with cheap Android devices. Should Apple do the same just to be able to brag on MyBroadband that it had more activations?

One iOS phone sells unbelievably well. Apple makes way way more money than these Android manufacturers.

I fully agree! The quality fart apps in the AppStore outshines everything else. :p
 
Fact is that the iPhone is a great device, but I will stick with my android device. I read some of how to overcome the itunes issue, but to me that feels more than an issue than to root and load a custom rom on my SGS.

I get why apple went that route and I can respect it as it probably curbs piracy, but it does limit people that wants certain functionality for legitimate reasons.

The main attraction for the iPhone for me is all the accessories you can buy that you just can't buy for your android phone. And I don't want to go online and buy something. I would much rather prefer to go into Game etc and just buy it. For my SGS I had to do to vodacom world to buy the accessories I wanted, and half of it isn't available in SA - 2 of the 4 stuff I wanted. I think that is what make the iPhone appeal to me, and lets be honest - the hardware is awesome. You don't really need much more than the iPhone 4 hardware currently.

I didn't look on the appStore, but the android market does look easy enough for me - but as I said, I am not in a position to judge it.
 
The world market is flooded with cheap Android devices. Should Apple do the same just to be able to brag on MyBroadband that it had more activations?

One iOS phone sells unbelievably well. Apple makes way way more money than these Android manufacturers.

IOS never exceeded 300k activations a day in its prime. This is across all Apple products (ipads 1&2, itouches, iphones).

As predicted due to similar reasons to why MS beat Apple in the PC market, Android will relegate ios to be a contender with RIM stuff.
 
IOS never exceeded 300k activations a day in its prime. This is across all Apple products (ipads 1&2, itouches, iphones).

As predicted due to similar reasons to why MS beat Apple in the PC market, Android will relegate ios to be a contender with RIM stuff.

It is hard to take partizans seriously. But in the hope that some are not completely blinded by their preferences, take a look at this chart:

http://www.asymco.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Screen-shot-2011-06-02-at-8.21.31-AM.png

from this article:

http://www.asymco.com/2011/06/02/does-the-phone-market-forgive-failure/

For anyone interested in the mobile industry, there may not be a better read than Dediu's site.
 
I fully agree! The quality fart apps in the AppStore outshines everything else. :p

Yes, the fart apps on Android are crap ... but as you fandroids always say, Android delivers more ... Apple owners get the farts, you get the s h i t.
 
Apple products are overpriced for what you get, and are completely inflexible due to the iTunes approach.

Their success is that they have managed to create a marketing image that allows them to sell overpriced products to a lot of people.

Thus the high margins.

But you can't fool everybody all of the time...
 
Owned and enjoyed the 3g and 3gs, mainly because of the UI. The workings is smooth and slick and everything works on the phones. Bought the Ipone 4 last year and it was a great phone, but the amount of drop and missed calls was unbelievable. Sold it and purchased a sg2. I'm not a fundi, just somebody who love to play with new gadgets and I definitely prefer the sg2. The same smoothness afa the UI is concern and the reception is miles better than the Iphone. There is a 2 room in my house where the I could not received or made a call with the Iphone4 and with the sg2 I can use the phone in that same rooms. BUT I can upgrade later this year and I think I will go for the Iphone5 and my reason for that is I really don't know, just something about apple and the Iphones
 
Apple products are overpriced for what you get, and are completely inflexible due to the iTunes approach.

Their success is that they have managed to create a marketing image that allows them to sell overpriced products to a lot of people.

Thus the high margins.

But you can't fool everybody all of the time...

I won't say that. When the SGS came out it was more expensive than the iPhone 4 and it had similar hardware specifications. The only reason I opted for it was because it would suit my needs better. Sure, now the iPhone is worth more than a R1000 more than the SGS, but that is just because of its branding.

All I am saying is if everyone compares something to the iPhone, then there must be a reason they use it as a benchmark.

People can't just make the sweeping statement saying the higher end android devices are better, because most people don't use the phone like you do. Most iPhone owners I know have no problem with iTunes as they are perfectly happy to live in that eco-system.

It is all about choice - you choose what you want.

And also remember the iPad is still cheaper than the Galaxy Tab, so I - devices are over-priced
 
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