iPod nano Problem.

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I hope this is the right place to ask....:o My friend recently gor a iPod nano 4GB. The problem is that we copy music from his PC then paste on the iPod. The iPod doesn't see any of the music. We tried different music formats but still it doesn't see no music. Any help would be greatly appriciated.
 
iTunes, and/or winamp... the music gets placed into a hidden folder with different libraries(i think) winamp and itunes do this automaticly
 
I recall having to go into iTunes, connect the iPod and setting the iPod as a storage drive (or something similar) before I could dump the M4A files on it directly from Explorer without using iTunes...

Otherwise what the other two said... :)
 
My understanding of the iPod is that you must use iTunes or Winamp and cannot just copy-paste music directly like with other devices.

My big gripe with the iPod range is that we do not have the iTunes Store in SA. I would love to own the iPod Touch but it will be a waste of money and functionality without the iTunes Store (and all that goes with it like video rentals) and no real WiFi access. I wonder if we will ever see the iTunes Store in SA.
 
BeVonk! said:
My understanding of the iPod is that you must use iTunes or Winamp and cannot just copy-paste music directly like with other devices.
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There are some free apps to do just that, copy music onto and off the iPod
ie using it as a USB stick or portable HDD. If you want a commercial program to do this for you, look at Xplay. I use(d) Xplay and it works very well,
I never used iTunes with my iPod. Xplay allows you to also build playlists and copy music/files BOTH ways - you use the iPod like a portable HD :).

http://www.mediafour.com/products/xplay/

A fully functional FREE trial is available:
http://download.mediafour.com/xplay
 
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Had the same issue this weekend with a friend's new Nano. Luckily Winamp 5 smartly saw I'd plugged the Nano in, prompted me for the model and then I used the Media Library to "send" songs to the Nano.

BEWARE: she took the Nano home, installed iTunes on her Laptop and then told it to Synch with the Nano. Since she didn't have the songs on her PC, iTunes wiped them from the Nano. Very smart. It's better to explicitly "Send" the tracks you want to the Nano.
 
You can't just copy paste cause iTunes transfers the files and renames the files to 4 random letters for some reason
 
look up beatbox for the ipod - replaces the apple OS with a (tech janitors are gonna love this) LINUX system.

The benefit of this is access to more features that exist in your ipod and the ability to get 3rd party open source plugins to play more audio/video formats, is skinnable to an insane level, drag n drop music files, can be used on any machine without the risk of resynching deleting favourites etc.

but as usual there is a dark side to utopia- can brick your ipod, unless of course you back up your orginal firmware. There is also a tool that youc an download from apple to reflash your ipod back to a certain firmware - althought that will 'format' your poddie.

have fun.
 
Thanks guys. We can now listen to music with his iPod:). Think I should get me one.:p Weird that they didn't make the iPod the way u can just copy and paste music?
 
Deadl1y said:
Thanks guys. We can now listen to music with his iPod:). Think I should get me one.:p Weird that they didn't make the iPod the way u can just copy and paste music?
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The iPod was designed with iTMS in mind. You're supposed to buy your songs and videos from Apple and auto-download them into your iPod. That's also the reason why you can only download INTO your iPod but not take stuff out of it (using iTunes at least).
 
Proprietariness just grates my goat, truly! It's stupid and unfriendly IMO
 
halicon said:
look up beatbox for the ipod - replaces the apple OS with a (tech janitors are gonna love this) LINUX system.

The benefit of this is access to more features that exist in your ipod and the ability to get 3rd party open source plugins to play more audio/video formats, is skinnable to an insane level, drag n drop music files, can be used on any machine without the risk of resynching deleting favourites etc.

but as usual there is a dark side to utopia- can brick your ipod, unless of course you back up your orginal firmware. There is also a tool that youc an download from apple to reflash your ipod back to a certain firmware - althought that will 'format' your poddie.

have fun.
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Should it not be "rockbox" (instead of beatbox)? Work on Rockbox for the iPod Nano (second and third gen), iPod Touch, and the iPod Classic has not begun due to firmware encryption that Apple places on all new iPods.

iPodLinux also seems to be compatible with older versions of the iPod only ... as per
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPodLinux
 
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PeterCH said:
The iPod was designed with iTMS in mind. You're supposed to buy your songs and videos from Apple and auto-download them into your iPod. That's also the reason why you can only download INTO your iPod but not take stuff out of it (using iTunes at least).
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Except that iTunes (launched Jan '01) came out 10 months before the iPod (Oct '01) and more than two years before the iTunes Music Store (April '03).
 
BeVonk! said:
Should it not be "rockbox" (instead of beatbox)? Work on Rockbox for the iPod Nano (second and third gen), iPod Touch, and the iPod Classic has not begun due to firmware encryption that Apple places on all new iPods.

iPodLinux also seems to be compatible with older versions of the iPod only ... as per
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPodLinux
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you right - rock box is what i was thinking about. thought they would have supported the later ipods by now.
 
should the ipod not be opened by the pc as a usb drive..I recall my mp3 player having that option.Although i had to go into the device manager to set it up...mpc mode or something...??
 
dablakmark8 said:
should the ipod not be opened by the pc as a usb drive..I recall my mp3 player having that option.Although i had to go into the device manager to set it up...mpc mode or something...??
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WinXP does see the Ipod as a removable drive and you can freely copy files onto it. However, this will not allow the Ipod to play music. Those files are reorganised in a specific, proprietary and unintuitive manner.
:mad:
 
bwana said:
Except that iTunes (launched Jan '01) came out 10 months before the iPod (Oct '01) and more than two years before the iTunes Music Store (April '03).
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You're just stating release dates. Just because they opened the stores 2 years after the iPod came along, doesn't mean that they didn't want to leverage the iPod for the store's benefit and vice versa. Secondly when the iPod came out the 1st 2 generations were pretty unpopular, the hype took off with the 3rd Gen iPod in the US and 4G/5G iPod in other places like SA.

The iPod does have a particularly nasty impediment of having to use the iTunes program which is neither too intuitive for some us of, nor can iTunes provide both way traffic of media onto and off the iPod. 3rd party apps like
Xplay came out to fill the niche and allowed for drag and drop (both ways) and on the go playlist creation - you can use your iPod like a USB stick drive
and it plays the songs you drag/drop and you can retrieve them later (for
backup purposes) or to put them on a second or 3rd PC. There is at least one freeware app like that for Mac's too.

I bought a copy of Xplay shortly after I got my 3G iPod in 2003. I just couldn't get used to iTunes and later WinAMP iPod plugins were not too friendly either. At present I don't have a problem with either my Creative Zen Vision 30GB - where I can drag and drop files with aid of a Creative application and my Cowon A3 60GB which is entirely Mac OSX and Windoze based, ie it's seen natively as an external USB 2.0 harddrive and copying files
both ways on the PC and MAC is incredibly simple, in fact I often download
Mac OSX and Final Cut Studio (and other) updates (they can be huge as many ppl here know) and use my Cowon A3 player to move the files PC to
Mac (My Mac only has dial-up access via ext USB Apple modem).

My suggestion is to buy Xplay, it's really a very good application. Get the free trial version to check it out but Xplay was the only way I could use my iPod
without doing things un-intuitively. Now I'm sure other ppl love iTunes and I don't have a problem with that, just for those who don't - Xplay is a great alternative and provides something that Apple did not include - probably to curb the copying of media files.
 
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