Iran goes nuclear

[MickeyD]

Really? Where exactly? They had nothing to do with Iraq, did they?

Yes right thats a great comeback well done, so tell me did Iraq have nuke power? Were they actively trying to get nuclear technology? Did Saddam ever use chemical weapons against his own people? You live in a fantasy world.
But you know what? Lets just give WMD's to anyone who want them, then then we will have world peace !! woohoo time to hug a tree

Read my previous posts regarding my stance regarding WEAPONS. Do not be selective in your responses.

 

[killadoob]

Really? Where exactly? They had nothing to do with Iraq, did they?

Yes right thats a great comeback well done, so tell me did Iraq have nuke power? Were they actively trying to get nuclear technology? Did Saddam ever use chemical weapons against his own people? You live in a fantasy world.
But you know what? Lets just give WMD's to anyone who want them, then then we will have world peace !! woohoo time to hug a tree

Let's have a look at some things marine.

US dropped nuclear bombs
US used chemical weapons in veitnam killing up to 200000 and leaving thousands with horrific deformities. Wow they sound as bad as saddam if you ask me.

 

[marine1]

Read my previous posts regarding my stance regarding WEAPONS. Do not be selective in your responses.

Selective? Sorry but I am not being selective
Fact : Iran will not let inspectors do their jobs...Why?
Fact: Iran wants Israel wiped out !!
Fact : Iran is led by Islamic extremist nutjobs.
If you do not see a trend then there is not point discussing this with you.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-sponsored_terrorism
Iran
Main article: Iran and state terrorism
The governments of the United States, the United Kingdom, Israel, and Yemen have accused the Ahmadinejad administration of sponsoring terrorism either in their, or against their, respective countries. Britain and the United States have also accused Iran of backing Shia militias in Iraq, which have at times attacked Coalition troops, Iraqi Sunni militias and civilians, and Anglo-American-supported Iraqi government forces.
United States President George W. Bush has called Iran the "world's primary state sponsor of terror."[8][9][10] Iran sponsors Hezbollah, Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad and the al-Mahdi army, groups that Iran doesn't view as terrorist.



http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/crt/2006/82736.htm
Sudan continued to take significant steps to cooperate in the War on Terror. Cuba, Iran, and Syria, however, have not renounced terrorism or made efforts to act against Foreign Terrorist Organizations. Iran and Syria routinely provided safe haven, substantial resources, and guidance to terrorist organizations.

 

[marine1]

Let's have a look at some things marine.

US dropped nuclear bombs
US used chemical weapons in veitnam killing up to 200000 and leaving thousands with horrific deformities. Wow they sound as bad as saddam if you ask me.

Hmm now why did the US drop nukes? An unprovoked attack on them from Japan. Remember that? Tell me was the US sponsoring terror? Were they calling for the total destruction of any nation, at the time?
Iran is the aggressor, the US never was and if they had not acted, we would all be Nazi's today although my bet is some here wouldn't mind that too much

 

[killadoob]

United States President George W. Bush has called Iran the "world's primary state sponsor of terror."

Coming from a terrorist who invaded iraq , if we going to call iran terrorists i feel we should do the same regarding the US.

Didn't the US support terrorists to fight the russians? So why now do they have such an issue with it?

How is iran the aggressor bud? Have you looked around and seen the wars going on? i don't see iran waging war across the globe, i do see the united states doing it though. This terror you speak if sounds a lot like the united states.

 

[marine1]

United States President George W. Bush has called Iran the "world's primary state sponsor of terror."

Coming from a terrorist who invaded iraq , if we going to call iran terrorists i feel we should do the same regarding the US.

Didn't the US support terrorists to fight the russians? So why now do they have such an issue with it?

I would rather the nukes be in the hands of the US right now instead of Iran. IMO no one should have them but unfortunately they do.

 

[MickeyD]

@marine1: Let me summarise what I have posted thusfar.

I do not support the current Iranian regime. However I do not have a problem if they build nuclear power plants IF USED FOR PEACEFUL PURPOSES. If sufficient hard evidence is found to the contrary, then I support action to remove the threat.

Simple.

 

[agerbon]

Mutually Assured Destruction.

but let every unstable nutcase regime on the planet have nukes pointing at each other. What could possibly go wrong

That's a crap excuse. USA and Russia had their pointy sticks pointed towards each other of which they were numbered in the thousands of warheads and nothing happened.

 

[marine1]

@marine1: Let me summarise what I have posted thusfar.

I do not support the current Iranian regime. However I do not have a problem if they build nuclear power plants IF USED FOR PEACEFUL PURPOSES. If sufficient hard evidence is found to the contrary, then I support action to remove the threat.

Simple.

And there is sufficient evidence which you are ignoring, why are they not allowing the inspectors to complete their jobs?

 

[killadoob]

@marine1: Let me summarise what I have posted thusfar.

I do not support the current Iranian regime. However I do not have a problem if they build nuclear power plants IF USED FOR PEACEFUL PURPOSES. If sufficient hard evidence is found to the contrary, then I support action to remove the threat.

Simple.

Very sensible outlook. Makes perfect sense to follow this logic.

What evidence marine? the same evidence for iraq? Lies and BS? I bet the american intelligence knows about it because we all know the intelligence agency is far from intelligent.

We should call them the stupid agency that know nothing. Makes more sense than calling it the intelligence agency.

 

[marine1]

That's a crap excuse. USA and Russia had their pointy sticks pointed towards each other of which they were numbered in the thousands of warheads and nothing happened.

But it nearly did or do you not remember the Cuban Missile Crisis

 

[MickeyD]

And there is sufficient evidence which you are ignoring, why are they not allowing the inspectors to complete their jobs?

The same US-sponsored inspectors who went to Iraq? I would also tell them to piss off.

 

[killadoob]

The same US-sponsored inspectors who went to Iraq? I would also tell them to piss off.

Hell yea i would not let anyone into my country if i was iran, just asking for fabricated lies and BS like iraq. Saddam let's in the inspectors and still gets attacked so why would any country want to let them in based on iraq? i would say that is sensible.

 

[agerbon]

But it nearly did or do you not remember the Cuban Missile Crisis

But it didn't...so to claim Iran would use it the first chance it got one is just plain silly and pure speculation fueled with biased assumptions.

 

[Alan]

The same US-sponsored inspectors who went to Iraq? I would also tell them to piss off.

and then you're found in a hole and hung.

 

[Dixie]

and then you're found in a hole and hung.

Lies. It was a double.

Tongue firmly against cheek

 

[Kidkaroo]

If Iran uses a nuke on Israel, they would be committing suicide. Israel is believed to possess 75 to as many as 400 nuclear weapons, not to mention possible chemical and biological weaponry. Iran would be leveled before their nuke even reached Israel.

That's the problem right there, if you read any of the many links I've provided you would know that ahmadinejad believes it is his duty to hasten the return of the Mahdi resulting in Armageddon. He doesn't mind if Iran were to be nuked, just as long as he takes out the "Zionist entity" first.

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

You're evidently unaware of Iran's Ahmadinejad often repeated mantra that Israel must be wiped off the map thus heralding the return of the Mahdi and the resulting Armageddon.

When people tell you what they want to do, believe them!

Iran having anything nuclear is dangerous and unacceptable but hey lets just wait for her to get her own nuke weapons and then we will see what you all have to say

You do realise that there is a big difference between nuclear reactors and nuclear weapons? The uranium or plutonium used in nuclear reactors will not work in nuclear weapons, due to the enrichment process.

I suggest doing some reading on what's actually entailed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enriched_uranium

/cue your tinfoil hat conspiracy theories.

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

Yes right thats a great comeback well done, so tell me did Iraq have nuke power? Were they actively trying to get nuclear technology? Did Saddam ever use chemical weapons against his own people? You live in a fantasy world.
But you know what? Lets just give WMD's to anyone who want them, then then we will have world peace !! woohoo time to hug a tree

Your ignorance on the topic is astounding. To you, the word 'nuclear' translates into mushroom clouds. Please go educate yourself and learn about how difficult it is to actually create highly enriched uranium or weapons grade plutonium.

 

[killadoob]

Case here is that Iran is constantly threatening other nations, especially the non-islamic world, particularly Israel and America too. Daily chants of 'death to America', does not stand as very 'kind' now does it?

Yea but this is a nuclear power plant not a nuke .