Is it really that bad in SA?

[ɹǝuuᴉM]

What does the ANC have to do with it?

He is quite right. We are a borderline first world country now.

Second world if such a thing ever existed.

Sort out the few issues and it will be a paradise.

I have nothing to say about SA. Just want to quote SauronZA - in case he wakes up and deletes his initial post

 

[SauRoNZA]

Fully awake thank you very much.

And not in the habit of reversing my statements.

 

[Nerfherder]

I love it. The country won't entertain free loaders so they remain wealthy.

LOL Dubai has an entire class of people that are free loaders - they call them citizens. The only way to be a Citizen is to be a native, you get sheltered employment IF you really want to work, otherwise they pay them to make babies.


SA has got issues but so has the world.... you can have a nice life here if this is what feels like home.

 

[HavocXphere]

The water thing is a mix imo. Drought is a natural disaster as sauron says...but they effect would have been less severe if they pipes weren't losing ~40% in some areas etc

Anyway...a good friend of mine is returning to ZA in 2 months - pull of family is too strong. Madness imo, but at the same time I can understand it - family isn't always a rational decision.

 

[OMB]

Interesting parallels, from the Washington Post

"There is little doubt that Rousseff would not be in this predicament if she were not so widely disliked, blamed for the worst economic crisis in 80 years and compounding corruption scandals. Whether that unpopularity is a good reason to cut short her presidency is the question many Brazilians are struggling with."

 

[Kilgore_Trout_Redux]

The difference is that the international media love the whole left wing thing she is doing (So, like, trendy maaan.) while the majority of Brazil's population hate her for being a crazy, corrupt, socialist nutjob who has destroyed their economy.

 

[SoulTax]

My aunt came back, and she said he is not going back overseas. She said you work like a slave to maintain an expensive lifestyle. See, anecdotes are fun.

Haha, I have never been treated more fairly with work hours as I currently am outside of SA. SA is where you work like a slave. Bosses that expect overtime without pay. Don't really care much if you have a family issue to deal with. Give you a hard time for anything and everything.

 

[Kilgore_Trout_Redux]

Haha, I have never been treated more fairly with work hours as I currently am outside of SA. SA is where you work like a slave. Bosses that expect overtime without pay. Don't really care much if you have a family issue to deal with. Give you a hard time for anything and everything.

His aunt is probably a fat BEE parasite. I am definitely living a better lifestyle overseas than I was in South Africa and it definitely feels like hard work is appreciated and rewarded here while having more of a focus on work/life balance.

 

[freddster]

What does the ANC have to do with it?

He is quite right. We are a borderline first world country now.

Second world if such a thing ever existed.

Sort out the few issues and it will be a paradise.

What, borderline first world??? that border must be freakin wide. This is 5th world, submerging country. Going down the drain.

 

[^^vampire^^]

Been staying in Aus for a month now.

1 Month before I left someone broke into my house and stole everything including passports and car - insurance refuses to pay.

Still get e-mail updates everyday from the old security company. For the last 3 months, every day a car has been stolen or a house broken into in the suburb I stayed and the next suburb over - every day!

One kid got shot for shouting to his parents that people were trying to break in when he came home and is in hospital fighting for his life. I would say they could have just scared him off or tied him up, but in the real world these shouldn't even be alternatives - it shouldn't be happening! I'm no longer willing to take that chance, next time it could be me or someone I love.

Things are *** expensive here but I go for a run after dark or take the dog for a walk in the park at 11pm and I don't feel scared, paranoid or endangered at any time. I still have my SA tendencies like carrying my stuff with me whenever I leave my work desk or keeping my hands in my pockets to protect my cell phone and wallet but this just gives me a one up over everyone here.

I will miss SA as it is a beautiful country with an awesome mix of culture, lifestyle and affordability but anyone who cannot look back over the last 20 years and see that everything is slowly sliding into the toilet is ignorant. If you need to lie to yourself because you cannot get out then do it, I feel for you. You can keep running from what the ANC is doing but eventually they will get hold of the little corners of the country where the last few rational people manage to get to and **** that up too, and then you will be sorry.

It was an expensive process getting out but not one day has gone by that I have regretted my choice.

 

[senyetse]

To me the major concern is violent crime. It is getting out of hand and the police/government seem unwilling or unable to control it. I would settle elsewhere if I had the opportunity.

 

[Kilgore_Trout_Redux]

^^vampire^^ - sucks to hear about your car. One last parting gift from the kind folk of South Africa.

That hands in your pocket thing is a tough habit to break and I still do it in crowded places along with the night time routine of going around the house checking the doors and windows are closed and locked.

 

[Archer]

What, borderline first world??? that border must be freakin wide. This is 5th world, submerging country. Going down the drain.

Funny posts are coming in early today

 

[TheChamp]

Haha, I have never been treated more fairly with work hours as I currently am outside of SA. SA is where you work like a slave. Bosses that expect overtime without pay. Don't really care much if you have a family issue to deal with. Give you a hard time for anything and everything.

are you a domestic worker? rest assured we are fighting day and night for all domestic workers to get what is due to them for overtime work

 

[Spizz]

are you a domestic worker? rest assured we are fighting day and night for all domestic workers to get what is due to them for overtime work

I work 10 hours a day, 6 days a week for a salary that does not change. There is no overtime.

My domestic worker comes in at 9 and finishes at 4.

Will you fight for me too?

 

[Archer]

Haha, I have never been treated more fairly with work hours as I currently am outside of SA. SA is where you work like a slave. Bosses that expect overtime without pay. Don't really care much if you have a family issue to deal with. Give you a hard time for anything and everything.

Again, anecdotal
I've been told by a German person (who is now top management for a large manufacturing firm), who first worked there, then here for 10+ years, and is now back in Germany - you need to work 50 - 55 hours a week or you won't get anywhere in Germany (and he commented it sucks because you get minimal family time) and SA is way more chilled. Oh wait, that is again just another anecdotal entry.

 

[SauRoNZA]

I work 10 hours a day, 6 days a week for a salary that does not change. There is no overtime.

My domestic worker comes in at 9 and finishes at 4.

Will you fight for me too?

So change jobs.

Most would say if you have enough money for a domestic worker that you are quite privileged.

 

[Spizz]

So change jobs.

Most would say if you have enough money for a domestic worker that you are quite privileged.

I'm not complaining. That's the point.

 

[Spizz]

And if it's easy enough to tell me to change jobs, why not say the same to the domestic worker?

 

[OrbitalDawn]

And if it's easy enough to tell me to change jobs, why not say the same to the domestic worker?

Really? :erm:

What are your qualifications and experience?