Is Telkom Breaking the Law?

Yup they are, but then ICASA being stupid as always did not give a deadline for implementing the system and in addition did not specify what the penalties would be i.e. if fined Telkom will bitch about the fine and stall it in court and wrt implementation the same thing applies, no deadline, so as long as & they have i remember made a statement that they will conform to the regulations at a future date(think imminent) ICASA can't do anything.. so much for being a regulator.

Besides the fact that resets as well as infinite local access is wrongly placed in the hands of the isp's responsibilities last i saw the pdf document.
 
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We need a journalist from myadsl to talk to ICASA and find out what the deal is, are they draft regs or real ones and who enforces the regs if they have been implemented. There is no doubt that a couple of the proposals were very unambiguous, no port prioritisation and no local traffic counting towards your cap. It seems ICASA have as much clout as the UN.
 
ok if they are real regs that means they are law. so what i propose is for every single person who has adsl and is being shaped or capped locally to call and lay a charge with the commercial crimes unit of the police. also anyone who has waited for more than 30 days. since telkom is breaking the law they should pay the price for it. icasa aint doing squat so lets try the coppers and see if that helps. i am fairly positive they cant lose all the dockets.

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MielieSpoor said:
So if we can put enough pressure on our ISP then they should at some stage begin to act because at the end of the day, they should be in compliance of the law as well.
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Great idea. The trouble is the only recourse we have is to complain to ICASA and we all know how much good that will do.

The commercial crimes unit of the police might be an idea, but is also unlikely to result in any progress.

The trouble is there are so many procedures to follow, but I think the one thing that we can all unite on is the 24 hour resets, so ...

1. Each of us log faults with our ISPs saying we get disconnected every 24 hours. They will naturally explain that it's Telkom but, as much as we love our ISPs, we do have the right to demand the "problem" be fixed.
2. Nothing will happen (by no fault of the ISPs) so we submit the issue to ICASA.
3. Again, nothing. So we go to the ombudsman (because ICASA isn't doing its job).

An alternative to 3 would be going to the police, but we're not looking to get our ISPs into trouble, we're just trying to force ICASA to look at the issue.
 
Telkom have teams of lawyers and international policy experts working for them to find loopholes. This complimented with a torrent of perks for policy makers like trips to the Olympics a while ago and free phones make it very difficult to tame the beast.

I ask that anybody with a knack for creating multimedia and other forms of content to start creating parody and anti-propaganda messages for local and international viewing. The time to name and shame is here. We need to dig in deep IMO and mock the **** out of people like the Minister of the DoC, Pres Thabo Mbeki for getting himself hoodwinked by Telkom etc.
 
eremos said:
Great idea. The trouble is the only recourse we have is to complain to ICASA and we all know how much good that will do.

The commercial crimes unit of the police might be an idea, but is also unlikely to result in any progress.

The trouble is there are so many procedures to follow, but I think the one thing that we can all unite on is the 24 hour resets, so ...

1. Each of us log faults with our ISPs saying we get disconnected every 24 hours. They will naturally explain that it's Telkom but, as much as we love our ISPs, we do have the right to demand the "problem" be fixed.
2. Nothing will happen (by no fault of the ISPs) so we submit the issue to ICASA.
3. Again, nothing. So we go to the ombudsman (because ICASA isn't doing its job).

An alternative to 3 would be going to the police, but we're not looking to get our ISPs into trouble, we're just trying to force ICASA to look at the issue.
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ISP's through ISPA are trying to engage ICASA on the regulations (not an easy task to get ICASA to engage on anything) but i would support bitching at your ISP as the more pressure that is created the better

antowan said:
Telkom have teams of lawyers and international policy experts working for them to find loopholes.
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the regs are so badly drafted i am sure telkom could drive an icasa detection vehicle through them

are they breaking the law?
the spirit of the law - yes
the letter of the law - who knows as the regs as they exist are a playground for lawyers
 
Unless ICASA clarifies - and even re-writes - the regulations and starts to act on non-compliance, the set of regulations which took over two years to produce may not be worth the paper it was written on
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The problem is that ICASA seems incapable of doing this. At the end of the day the buck stops with government and in particular the DOC who seem equally useless at effecting meaningful change. The answer most likely lies in getting sufficient publicity on these shortcomings so it starts effecting politicians were it hurts the most, namely in votes. Unluckily due to the many problems facing SA this is going to be a slow process.
 
For some reason I cannot start a thread. 1. Does anyone know whether Telkom blocks the mobile services if they think someone owes them money elsewhere? 2. Is this legal, if they do?
 
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