Is your Disney+ broken ??

[Dolby]

Although only YouTube and Netflix are using it now, I reckon it won't be long until all streaming follows. Lower bandwidth consumption around the world isn't a bad thing actually.

And with Android TV pushing it heavily, I'd wouldn't be keen on out laying so much cash for a without it, or YouTube HDR.

Google may require AV1 codec support on all new Android TV devices starting March 31

Starting on March 31st, 2021, Android TV devices will reportedly be required to support the AV1 codec if they plan to launch.

9to5google.com

 

[Dolby]

Thanks - getting damn cold at work.

Cool!

Let us know after your test.

I was getting a Ultra HD / 10 bit file @ 10Mbps

 

[elf_lord_ZC5]

Cool!

Let us know after your test.

I was getting a Ultra HD / 10 bit file @ 10Mbps

Will do, thanks

 

[elf_lord_ZC5]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6etTERFUlUI&t=1s

Okay, they all play on my Shield, using VLC or NOVA player.

Stats from VLC on Shield:



Stats from VLC on PC


The Bourne Identity on Shield

The Bourne Identity on PC



Thanks, for the clips

 

[elf_lord_ZC5]

Okay, now this is my Fire TV MAX, playing from YouTube




This is my Shield TV Pro playing from YouTube

 

[Dolby]

Okay, they all play on my Shield, using VLC or NOVA player.

Stats from VLC on Shield:

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Stats from VLC on PC
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The Bourne Identity on Shield View attachment 1332294

The Bourne Identity on PC

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Thanks, for the clips

But YouTube AV1?

You downloaded each and played on VLC? I wonder how HDR works and if it's the same way?

So technically you're saying it's possible, but software limits the Shield to doing it natively?

 

[elf_lord_ZC5]

But YouTube?
You downloaded and played on VLC?
So technically you're saying it's possible, but software limits the Shield?

See the second post - playing them in YouTube, the Fire TV MAX, plays AV1 version.

Shield plays VP9 version.

Downloaded the videos and they play in VLC and NOVA player.

Going to download the videos again, and specify AV1 codec. See if that gives me anything different. As I copied the download links from your posted videos, I do not expect to have gotten non- AV1 codec videos.

 

[elf_lord_ZC5]

Okay, my assumption was wrong, but this is the result of specifying AV1 file download.

This is on the Shield using VLC

 

[elf_lord_ZC5]

This is the result using VLC on PC

 

[elf_lord_ZC5]

So to summarize, The Shield will replay AV1 encoded video content, via VLC or NOVA player, provided the audio is in Opus format, but not if audio is m4a.

YouTube will not give you a AV1 encoded file to stream, but VP9, on the Shield.

Fire TV 4k MAX, will be given a AV1 encoded file to stream.

 

[Dolby]

YouTube will not give you a AV1 encoded file to stream, but VP9, on the Shield

Strange.

So will do VP9, but not AV1?
And VP9.2? Also not supported?

It's unreal how many videos are already in AV1

 

[Dolby]

So to summarize, The Shield will replay AV1 encoded video content, via VLC or NOVA player, provided the audio is in Opus format, but not if audio is m4a.

Also a strange quirk

 

[elf_lord_ZC5]

Also a strange quirk

I have redone the m4a audio download, and it now also plays both 44.1 KHz 48 kbps and 44.1KHz 128 kbps audio - now scratching my head why the first download with m4a audio failed.

Spent my entire afternoon, to be left with a puzzle - that I cannot now investigate further as the offending file has been deleted.

Edit:

Found offending file still in recycle bin - has a bit rate of 0kbps - no guesses here as to why.

 

[elf_lord_ZC5]

Strange.

So will do VP9, but not AV1?
And VP9.2? Also not supported?

It's unreal how many videos are already in AV1

These are the formats available for those videos: No VP9.2

ID EXT RESOLUTION FPS │ FILESIZE TBR PROTO │ VCODEC VBR ACODEC ABR ASR MORE INFO ─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── sb2 mhtml 48x27 │ mhtml │ images storyboard sb1 mhtml 80x45 │ mhtml │ images storyboard sb0 mhtml 160x90 │ mhtml │ images storyboard 139 m4a audio only │ 2.88MiB 48k https │ audio only mp4a.40.5 48k 22050Hz low, m4a_dash 249 webm audio only │ 2.92MiB 49k https │ audio only opus 49k 48000Hz low, webm_dash 250 webm audio only │ 3.57MiB 60k https │ audio only opus 60k 48000Hz low, webm_dash 140 m4a audio only │ 7.63MiB 129k https │ audio only mp4a.40.2 129k 44100Hz medium, m4a_dash 251 webm audio only │ 6.48MiB 109k https │ audio only opus 109k 48000Hz medium, webm_dash 17 3gp 176x144 6 │ 4.73MiB 80k https │ mp4v.20.3 80k mp4a.40.2 0k 22050Hz 144p 394 mp4 256x144 25 │ 3.68MiB 62k https │ av01.0.00M.08 62k video only 144p, mp4_dash 160 mp4 256x144 25 │ 2.99MiB 50k https │ avc1.4d400c 50k video only 144p, mp4_dash 278 webm 256x144 25 │ 4.25MiB 72k https │ vp9 72k video only 144p, webm_dash 395 mp4 426x240 25 │ 6.81MiB 115k https │ av01.0.00M.08 115k video only 240p, mp4_dash 133 mp4 426x240 25 │ 6.52MiB 110k https │ avc1.4d4015 110k video only 240p, mp4_dash 242 webm 426x240 25 │ 7.38MiB 125k https │ vp9 125k video only 240p, webm_dash 396 mp4 640x360 25 │ 13.77MiB 233k https │ av01.0.01M.08 233k video only 360p, mp4_dash 134 mp4 640x360 25 │ 13.11MiB 222k https │ avc1.4d401e 222k video only 360p, mp4_dash 18 mp4 640x360 25 │ 33.75MiB 572k https │ avc1.42001E 572k mp4a.40.2 0k 44100Hz 360p 243 webm 640x360 25 │ 17.48MiB 296k https │ vp9 296k video only 360p, webm_dash 397 mp4 854x480 25 │ 25.46MiB 432k https │ av01.0.04M.08 432k video only 480p, mp4_dash 135 mp4 854x480 25 │ 23.40MiB 397k https │ avc1.4d401e 397k video only 480p, mp4_dash 244 webm 854x480 25 │ 26.74MiB 453k https │ vp9 453k video only 480p, webm_dash 22 mp4 1280x720 25 │ ~ 51.29MiB 850k https │ avc1.64001F 850k mp4a.40.2 0k 44100Hz 720p 398 mp4 1280x720 25 │ 53.11MiB 901k https │ av01.0.05M.08 901k video only 720p, mp4_dash 136 mp4 1280x720 25 │ 42.52MiB 721k https │ avc1.4d401f 721k video only 720p, mp4_dash 247 webm 1280x720 25 │ 51.20MiB 868k https │ vp9 868k video only 720p, webm_dash 399 mp4 1920x1080 25 │ 99.36MiB 1685k https │ av01.0.08M.08 1685k video only 1080p, mp4_dash 137 mp4 1920x1080 25 │ 150.14MiB 2547k https │ avc1.640028 2547k video only 1080p, mp4_dash 248 webm 1920x1080 25 │ 92.78MiB 1574k https │ vp9 1574k video only 1080p, webm_dash 400 mp4 2560x1440 25 │ 324.52MiB 5506k https │ av01.0.12M.08 5506k video only 1440p, mp4_dash 271 webm 2560x1440 25 │ 374.11MiB 6348k https │ vp9 6348k video only 1440p, webm_dash 401 mp4 3840x2160 25 │ 651.21MiB 11050k https │ av01.0.12M.08 11050k video only 2160p, mp4_dash 313 webm 3840x2160 25 │ 905.58MiB 15366k https │ vp9 15366k video only 2160p, webm_dash

 

[elf_lord_ZC5]

Strange.

So will do VP9, but not AV1?
And VP9.2? Also not supported?

It's unreal how many videos are already in AV1

Torrent sites have an increasing number of files encoded as AV1 as well.

Most folks have little idea how much content is already available in AV1 format, as they do not have the means to play them, or they are not offered to them, as the platform has decided for what ever reason to give them an alternative codec format.

 

[Dolby]

Sticking to subject, it sounds like Disney+ needs to implement some decent codecs...

 

[elf_lord_ZC5]

Sticking to subject, it sounds like Disney+ needs to implement some decent codecs...

Decent codecs yes, also a consistency in their content video resolution, bit rates etc.

If I did not know better, and just judging from the content, with all the consistency issues, I would not get the feeling that I am on a friend's PLEX server, where there is a mishmash of different video and audio qualities, reflecting all the varied sources he has used to create his content collection.

Being Disney, and with their content creation ability I expect a very much more coherent experience. Why Disney is such a disappointment/ let down for me.

 

[ubercal]

Decent codecs yes, also a consistency in their content video resolution, bit rates etc.

If I did not know better, and just judging from the content, with all the consistency issues, I would not get the feeling that I am on a friend's PLEX server, where there is a mishmash of different video and audio qualities, reflecting all the varied sources he has used to create his content collection.

Being Disney, and with their content creation ability I expect a very much more coherent experience. Why Disney is such a disappointment/ let down for me.

thats what happens when you outsource to India

 

[elf_lord_ZC5]

thats what happens when you outsource to India

I just get the feeling, that Disney decided that they needed to get a foot in the door here, but don't expect the market, to care about the overall experience, i.e. we are a bunch of idiots, that will be happy with anything they put up, no matter how crappy, scraps, with whatever they could just throw together.

I feel they did not give their offering much thought, and put even less effort into it. If it hurts them, they must not cry.

 

[SeRpEnT]

Hotstar vs. Disney+: What's missing on Hotstar compared to Disney+ in the US

Turns out Disney+ Hotstar in India isn’t as feature-rich as its US counterpart

www.androidpolice.com

Disney+ South African App Tested – 720p Upscaled to 4K Across TV Apps

Disney+ is available in South Africa and after spending a few days testing out the different versions of the South African app, we have determined the quality.

www.glitched.online

Disney+ – How to Tell if You Got The Horrible Hotstar Version in Your Country

There are two versions of Disney+ available. Disney+ Hotstar doesn't have IMAX, Extras and bad streaming quality while the other is a better premium version.

www.glitched.online

Disney Hotstar only used in third world countries where Disney assume streaming consumption is on mobile devices and data limited. Lower bitrate streams and a crippled app with less functionality for Hotstar. From what I read about constant buffering complaints during primetime (when their Netflix works perfectly) they clearly also have less servers for Disney Africa region leading to congestion and slow down.