Isoftnet 30 Gb UPDATED

Skint said:
Soo.. the way you said that, after the 30gb, local is throttled too?
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Wow- are we getting back on topic here ;)

It looks like its going to be that way for everyone - if it isnt already. Just one of August's mysteries.
 
I do not wish to derail the discussion about AYCE, but I do have some comments on this discussion.

First, i dont think the name calling is helping. It might help if we discussed things in a more relaxed way. If you feel angry, breathe a bit and then reply. Just my thoughts...

Then concerning the AYCE problem: From 1st of September i will be switching to one of the larger accounts available. I have scoured these forums and have built up a pretty good idea about what to watch out for.

My mind is set to try Axxess. I cannot dare to try AYCE (even though doob likes them so much), and its not because of bad pricing, its more to do with the service i can expect form Axxess. The things i read about AYCE put me off forever. Something must happen with AYCE to restore faith in ADSL users. How they wish to do this and if they wish to do this i do not know. I sure hope that they do, because we need competition.

If AYCE does not try something drastic to restore their image with the MyADSL forum regulars, they will be damaged forever. Word of mouth is very powerful, especially regarding ADSL. If a new ADSL subscriber comes to this forum and asks what ISP he should get, the greater majority will scream Axxess or Imaginet or whatever, but surely not many will recommend AYCE.

If AYCE does change before September 1st they could have me as a subscriber, but if not then i will gladly invest my money in Axxess, since they have proven themselves time and time again. Isoftnet is also not high on my wishlist right now.
 
The one thing that bugs me about AYCE is the name which now sounds rather stupid considering that they offer the same 30GB capped offering as everybody else :).

"All you can eat" sounds far too much like some kind of p0rno operation run by a teenager from his bedroom or a buffet restuarant for obese people.

Whoever decided on this juvenile name needs to be shot ... don't they know about marketing and brands ???.
 
I think its great that we can get good pricing month-to-month with various service providers for ADSL. It really puts pressure on the providers to impress users, and since the product offerings are identical (it seems?), it comes down to service and competitive pricing.

I'll be getting axxess this month to see how it goes... I don't really need 30gb, so one of the smaller packages suites me nicely.

Unless Isoftnet are planning on releasing some smaller packages? Variety is the spice of life and all :p
 
eye_suc, the thing is that you can't really believe everything you read here. As I pointed out with a dare (back by 2 x R1000) mbs and VQuest both wrote fibs in this thread. I don't know what their agenda is but they do seem to have a vendenta. Someone mention that they might be working for competitive ISP. I don't know if that is true but it would make sense.
 
like i said in my last post (and yes i do like them i got 30 gigs for 480 and not a problem since signing and when i have had a problem its been sorted out fast)

(The one thing that bugs me about AYCE is the name which now sounds rather stupid considering that they offer the same 30GB capped offering as everybody else .)

its actually the other way around everybody is offering the same as ayce remember like i said without ayce there wouldnt have been a bandwidth price war.

so before you knock them think about that and be thankful for them starting the 30 gig accounts

and rsd yes i agree with you there one thing ayce should do is offer smaller accounts like axxess thats why axxess are doin well because of their smaller packages.
 
allyoucaneat said:
eye_suc, the thing is that you can't really believe everything you read here. As I pointed out with a dare (back by 2 x R1000) mbs and VQuest both wrote fibs in this thread. I don't know what their agenda is but they do seem to have a vendenta. Someone mention that they might be working for competitive ISP. I don't know if that is true but it would make sense.
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omg dewd... just leave it already... ur just making ur name worse. Both mbs and vquest have been around here for ages, long enough for us all to know they dont have hidden agenda's. The reality is, there are 100's of people here with the same 'agenda' as them, all those who read and were part of the attempt to try get ANY usefull info out of AYCE when u first made ur bait offer to us, under heavy contract.

i mean just put 2 and 2 together... u rocked up, from out of nowhere, and expected people to sign a 12 month contract with u. and u simply ignored all the important questions u were asked. A promotion price for 1 month only of about 50% of ur real price.... but we'd have to sign away 12 months, in an ever changing telkom ADSL world. riiiiiight.

now u come back months later, with obvious contempt for us burning u for ur aggressive attempt to bait and coller us.

lewk... tough luck... ur business plan didnt work out so hot for us, u did manage to get one loyal customer, good for him and u. But dont come offering R1000 gift vouchers, and calling people fibbers for not being able to show a PM that 99% of the population would DELETE after reading... perhaps even b4 reading.

im just talking, cos the others have already said the've had enough of this rubbish, and ur still trying to goad them into talking.
 
I do admire the fact that AYCE is actually active on the forum, even if their was a quiet period.

If consumers can see that their service providers are actively engaging them in online forums it sure helps, but...

The damage is done, and trying to control it now is almost too late. Something else must be done to try and contain the damage to your image. Yes, i do believe a lot of the things i read on this forum, and so far it has helped me a lot. I choose to believe the people that have proven themselves to me.
 
DOTCO (AYCE is a product of DOTCO) has been in operating since 2000 and incorporated in 2001. We have been listed with the cheapest 3GB ADSL at R230 on Hellkom until recently for almost ever.

mbs made a BIG issue about the PM. He could not reveal the date or time or the PM itself. We have no record of a request or giving him a test account. (If I was going to call a company morally indefensible and make all kind of accusations as mbs did -- I would keep the PM)

VQuest could not indicate the line in the Terms he refered too.

The 2 x R1000 Kalahari.net vouchers still stands. Please proof me wrong that they are not fibs.

The many users that signuped in March 2005 for the 12 month R480 p/m special is now already half way through their contract and have been getting great service at the very special price of R480 p/m still today. The initial adopters have been rewarded with the special price.

There are older (+2 years) DOTCO subscribers that have posted on the forum here that have been very complimentary of our service. Our older DOTCO subscribers migrated to All You Can Eat in February 2005 and also got the R480 p/m deal.

We have been advertising extensively on MyADSL (and else where) since March 2005 and so have not been absent at all.

Our policy to date was not to engage users on this forum. This has no change now. We will highlight every half truth and untruth about our product or company that is published here.
 
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allyoucaneat said:
As I pointed out with a dare (back by 2 x R1000) mbs and VQuest both wrote fibs in this thread. I don't know what their agenda is but they do seem to have a vendenta. Someone mention that they might be working for competitive ISP. I don't know if that is true but it would make sense.
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Despite that previously said, this juvenile comment deserves comment, as it is clear that you choose to interpret statements made by others within your own context, blissfully ignoring reality - ever heard of the description 'a Walter Mitty character'? Pre-teen kids make dares with each other and describe perceived untruths as 'fibs' - if this is indeed indicative of the level of professionalism offered by yourselves to prospective clients, it is tragically obvious why your forum cred is virtually non-existent, much like that of the 'doob.

I reiterate -

(1) You have to date not responded to the very simple question as to why you saw the need for a one-sided contractual arrangment initially with clients - this has nothing to do with the initial or subsequently-changed contractual terms and conditions;

(2) The fact that you indeed changed the terms and conditions subsequently a number of times, is indicative of a less-than-professional understanding of both the supply and demand chain;

(3) I don't work for a 'competitive ISP' nor any other kind of connectivity service provider;

(4) You made me an offer of a 'test account' via PM, which I, very conveniently for you, deleted - I cannot prove this (though when I saw the name 'Johan' in your latest PM, it indeed rang a discordant note in the back of my mind) - nor can you, for that matter, disprove this;

(5) Your deliberate threat of legal action against RPM and this forum for the re-publication of an extract already published on your own website, ostensibly on the grounds of copyright infringement, is just simply unacceptable to all reasonable persons of sound mind, word and deed.

Finally, it should be clear to you that neither I, nor a number of the members of this forum, are really interested in what you have to offer, precisely because of your self-inflicted and dubious business approaches - competitive pricing is not the only driver of market share acquisition. This is the very last post I will ever make on the ayce saga - you are now on my 'ignore/ban' list.
 
Mods - please - this is getting a bad as watching a dog chase its own tail!

Please - as much as I love a good scrap shut the thread down.
 
mbs said:
(1) You have to date not responded to the very simple question as to why you saw the need for a one-sided contractual arrangment initially with clients - this has nothing to do with the initial or subsequently-changed contractual terms and conditions;
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(I'll repeat again) Which line in the Terms bother you?

The subscribers that signed up in March 2005 for R480 p/m for 12 months and are still paying R480 p/m is not complaining about the contract.

mbs said:
(2) The fact that you indeed changed the terms and conditions subsequently a number of times, is indicative of a less-than-professional understanding of both the supply and demand chain;
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The Terms was change to accommodate first a 12 month, then a 6 month and now a 1 month Minimum Supply Period. There is nothing sinister there.

mbs said:
(4) You made me an offer of a 'test account' via PM, which I, very conveniently for you, deleted - I cannot prove this (though when I saw the name 'Johan' in your latest PM, it indeed rang a discordant note in the back of my mind) - nor can you, for that matter, disprove this;
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Yes I can mbs. As a company we don't delete any emails, faxes, messages or PMs.

mbs said:
(5) Your deliberate threat of legal action against RPM and this forum for the re-publication of an extract already published on your own website, ostensibly on the grounds of copyright infringement, is just simply unacceptable to all reasonable persons of sound mind, word and deed.
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I beg you to read RPM's response here in this thread. Maybe RPM would care to publish the legal audit report that I mentioned already. You might also want to read the new Terms on the MyADSL web site that was created after advice on that legal audit report.
 
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