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VQuest said:
From what I remember about previous discussions on this subject, your terms have been changed somewhat since then.
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My dare still stands! I dare you quote the line that you refered to from ANY version of the Terms.

Here are the different versions of the AYCE Terms:

https://dotco.net/allyoucaneat/signup/termsv2.txt
https://dotco.net/allyoucaneat/signup/termsv6.txt
https://dotco.net/allyoucaneat/signup/termsv7.txt
https://dotco.net/allyoucaneat/signup/termsv8.txt
 
As a number of people have stated, this AYCE debate (?) is going round and round and ...
Why not let good old fashioned numbers do the talking?
Do (or would) any ISPs release their subscription numbers to indicate with whom we consumers actually trust our money?
And if not, it sounds like a good MyADSL poll?
 
thehideaway said:
Why not let good old fashioned numbers do the talking?
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A very interesting prospect. But how and by who will this be audited? The Department of Communications is doing just such a study at the moment.
 
allyoucaneat said:
My dare still stands! I dare you quote the line that you refered to from ANY version of the Terms.

Here are the different versions of the AYCE Terms:

https://dotco.net/allyoucaneat/signup/termsv2.txt
https://dotco.net/allyoucaneat/signup/termsv6.txt
https://dotco.net/allyoucaneat/signup/termsv7.txt
https://dotco.net/allyoucaneat/signup/termsv8.txt
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As stated in a previous post, I've had enough of this ayce nonsense. I have absolutely no interest in trying to debate this with you. My post was to get Landar up to speed why most of myadsl users don't trust your company.

The one sided contract was brought up many times in previous threads - I noticed you never tried to debate about it then, you simply chose to ingore our questions and comments.

Anyway, it's really pointless going round and round in circles. Bottom line is ayce cut it's own throat and there is not much that can be done about that now. This is my last comment on this topic, as it's both a waste of myadsl bandwidth and mine.
 
VQuest said:
... And once reading the contract ... Including the fact that you still had to pay even if they could no longer offer you a service...
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I put it to you that you wrote a fib and you don't want to own up to it.
 
allyoucaneat said:
My dare still stands! I dare you quote the line that you refered to from ANY version of the Terms.

Here are the different versions of the AYCE Terms:

https://dotco.net/allyoucaneat/signup/termsv2.txt
https://dotco.net/allyoucaneat/signup/termsv6.txt
https://dotco.net/allyoucaneat/signup/termsv7.txt
https://dotco.net/allyoucaneat/signup/termsv8.txt
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I dare you to stop updating and changing your terms and conditions and your contract/then no contract, then we can have a fair dare. Not to mention, who the hell counts from 2,6,7,8. Where is 1 and 3,4,5 ? Having it your way again?

Oh and please dont even try to tell me im sucking this out of my thumb.
 
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allyoucaneat said:
mbs, we have gone through all the requests for test accounts (twice just to make sure). We also combed through the test accounts that was given out, but there is no record that "mbs" got or requested a test account. Do you perhaps use another nick sometimes on MyADSL?
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Please read again - I did not say I requested an account, but I was indeed offered one by somebody at ayce via PM (clearly an attempt to change my stance, as forum discussion was swinging decidedly against ayce at the time - there are plenty of threads which you can search for yourself in this regard), and which I justifiably ignored and deleted. I also do not have a schizophrenic on-line persona, and even less so in reality.
allyoucaneat said:
mbs, be fair: you are expecting an answer on a question (which you won't tell me what it is) and you complain about a contract but you are unwilling to tell me which line in the Terms is bothering you.
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Please read again - I don't give an airborne procreational pasttime about your contract at this stage of the game. A suggestion for you: do a search on this forum using the keyword 'ayce', and then formulate an appropriate approach which improves your esteem in the eyes of forumites. Personally, I don't think there's much that you can do to redeem yourselves, particularly in the light of the legal threat you sent to RPM a while ago.
 
allyoucaneat said:
I put it to you that you wrote a fib and you don't want to own up to it.
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LOL is this pre-school now? I said I was not going to reply, but I really don't appreciate being called a liar.

Do as mbs says, search the forum for "ayce" or "all you can eat" and you will see loads of complaints about the one sided contract. Do you have selective memory or something? Nevermind, don't answer that, you have already proved that you do.

Have you noticed that all ayce discussion gets heated and goes round in circles? I really wish a mod would lock this thread because it's a waste of bandwidth.

clipse said:
I dare you to stop updating and changing your terms and conditions and your contract/then no contract, then we can have a fair dare. Not to mention, who the hell counts from 2,6,7,8. Where is 1 and 3,4,5 ? Having it your way again?
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I was actually wondering about the missing versions too.

These guys don't seem to learn - they are simply making themselves look more and more like fools. And not to mention "fibbers".
 
Between version 2 and version 6 there were a couple of drafts that was not published. There is nothing sinister.

Version 2 was the first published Terms
Version 6 includes a Minimum Supply Period of 12 months
Version 7 includes a Minimum Supply Period of 6 months
Version 8 includes a Minimum Supply Period of 1 month

VQuest, just quote the line that you refered to in the Terms. If you do: I'll give you a R1000 Kalahari.net gift voucher.

mbs, just publish the PM (with the date and time) here. There is really no record of it on our side. Likewise: A R1000 Kalahari.net gift voucher is yours then.

RPM, maybe you want to mention what was the outcome of the copyright infringement. There seems to be some confusion what the end result was of the legal audit report.
 
allyoucaneat - Its not about business practice, it all comes down to you being a prick.

Simple as that, if you still cant understand it, well ****off kindly
 
Clipse said:
allyoucaneat - Its not about business practice, it all comes down to you being a prick.
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The feeling is mutual. But lets discuss the issues and not the personalities here. You can tell me what you think of me in a PM.
 
allyoucaneat said:
The feeling is mutual. But lets discuss the issues and not the personalities here. You can tell me what you think of me in a PM.
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Don't delete the PM though, allyoucaneat might want you to paste it here later :confused:
 
Hi AYCE and others

I can confirm that I have been advised to take down the post in regards to the copyright infringement. I certainly do not want to defend anyone here, but can say that my recent dealings with AYCE have been constructive and friendly.

I also think discussions regarding service agreements etc. is beneficial to everybody. It is great when members take the time to look at the service agreements from companies and evaluate to positives and negatives.

Regards,

RPM
 
allyoucaneat said:
mbs, just publish the PM (with the date and time) here. There is really no record of it on our side. Likewise: A R1000 Kalahari.net gift voucher is yours then.
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You again did not read properly - I said I justifiably deleted it, as I have indeed done with the one you've just sent me. Thanx for your gift offer, but no thanx. Donate the bux to SOS Children's Villages or Choc and make sure that it is being done in the name of MyADSL - that would certainly go some way to raising your esteem in the eyes of forumites.
 
Maybe I'm misunderstanding things, or misreading the situation - but given that telkom seem to have pulled the rug from under resellers, who in turn are more or less trying to do what they can to keep their customers satisfied, what's with all the anger and recriminations?
If there's a serious enough problem with contractual arrangements being breached, find a lawyer and lay suitable charges - otherwise jeez, it seems a company's been forced to change what it can offer (because of Telkom in turn changing some rules of the game) - and the company seems to be trying to apologize and do what it can, and getting a sulking hissy reaction from some forumites, who aren't necessarily 'speaking on behalf of everyone' here.
That's how I see it - or am I missing something? I'm not trying to troll in any way - it seems that the company had to grovel and change what it could offer, and applogize bigtime for it - and instead of people either reaching for lawyers, or cursing them out and moving elsewhere, or coming to new arrangements - there's some weird urge to try and get the company to..what? 'fess up to being mean' or something?
 
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It's not as simple as that, LG. Suggest you trawl the forum using 'ayce' as the search key, and you'll find a number of threads providing the reasons for a bad taste in the mouths of many forumites... All of this notwithstanding, I've now said the very last I'm prepared to say in this regard - forumites may draw their own conclusions.
 
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After the 30GB is used the account will be throttled down to 56kbps national only bandwidth until the end of the month.
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Soo.. the way you said that, after the 30gb, local is throttled too?
 
ok i havent read all the posts since my last one

but i am getting 30 gigs of info for 480 and yes i have a 12 month contract that is bad hey
imagine 30 gigs for 480 a month wow and they made me sign a contract as well those are bad ppl.

lets look at this and give ayce their due, who started the cheap bandwidth war?
who was first to make the 30 gig account

so instead of starting this whole thing again and telling me i cant spell or my gramma is bad just be thankful to ayce i am or i would still be paying mweb 329 for 30 gigs, so for an extra 151 rand i am getting 10 times what i had, o damn but i got a 12 month contract for really cheap bandwidth lol
 
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