ISPA wants Local Loop Unbundling commitment from ICASA

Finally an article and noise from someone about LLU! More noise about this needs to be made!
 
Great that someone is pushing buttons.
(hoping the inevitable delay will not happen)
 
It will be delayed. Long list of excuses including a long holiday while the SWC is on the go. As I read elsewhere, SWC time is PARTY, PARTY, PARTY!

The incumbent won't start moving on its own. When (IF) icasa ever do propose something, the process will get tied down with them using every trick in the book, including some political interference.

I really hope that LLU does materialise ASAP.
 
so let me ask a question, if Telkom has "built its network using public funds" then why are we, the consumer, paying for that last mile stretch of cable?
 
snail said:
so let me ask a question, if Telkom has "built its network using public funds" then why are we, the consumer, paying for that last mile stretch of cable?
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Where have you been since October 1991?
 
moggie said:
Where have you been since October 1991?
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So what if Telkom listed in 1991? It was still majority-owned by the government (read the tax-payer).

My view is that the LL does not belong to Telkom, but to the people of SA who funded its creation.

But like everything else in SA, Telkom has become a nice cash cow for ANC fat-cats.

So don't expect much to happen i.t.o LLU.
 
This is exacerbated by the failure of ICASA to issue out new radio frequency spectrum licences in frequencies which are suitable for the provision of local access networks.
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One of many failures on !CASA's part, but one that deserves more attention.

Just one example: for quite a long time, Sentech has been sitting on a considerable amout of prime WiMax spectrum and doing absolutely buggerall with that spectrum, and !CASA keeps talking about a 'use it or lose it' policy WRT wireless spectrum, but !CASA never actually does anything to back up its rhetoric.

IMO getting rid of that Paris Mashile [and other] narcoleptic incompetent Poison Ivy plant, would be a good example of urgently required spring cleaning at !CASA. A person that regularly has shoes off and feet on the desk when actually in the office, falls asleep and probably drools spittle all over the place, is someone that does not deserve to be paid a salary - even if that person is the boss.
 
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It all goes back to the beginning: government and the politicos must get out of all the telco's. Sell every shareholding in every telco and allow the market to shape the future.
 
ICASA is such a disaster, if you asked them to commit to doing nothing they wouldn't even be able to do that. They'd bugger it up in no time at all.

ICASA is as useful as an aerial on a toaster.
 
expect the usual suspects to make things as difficult as possible...

...but, then again, you never know what will happen between now and the projected date.
 
They only way LLU will ever happen is if you tell the ANC BMW won't sell them cars until they do.. I bet within 24 hours LLU will be processed... Ok that might sound far fecthed but you get the point
 
What needs to happen to make Local Loop Unbundling a reality is the drafting of a bunch of watertight regulations that will force a very reluctant Telkom to comply, followed by a means of policing these regulations. The regulations won't just happen, and they won't just be written by a few staff members at ICASA.

ICASA initially set up a series of committees to draft the various aspects of the regulations, with experts (i.e. consultants), as well as multiple industry representatives. We (those with vested interests, including ISPA members) just let them die.

If we really want LLU to happen, we need to get those committees up and running, and offer expertise and support. There are plenty of examples we can copy (various countries in Europe have reasonable regulations), and the accumulated experience of multiple markets, if one's prepared to go looking for it.

More action, less talk.
 
ads said:
What needs to happen to make Local Loop Unbundling a reality is the drafting of a bunch of watertight regulations that will force a very reluctant Telkom to comply, followed by a means of policing these regulations. The regulations won't just happen, and they won't just be written by a few staff members at ICASA.

ICASA initially set up a series of committees to draft the various aspects of the regulations, with experts (i.e. consultants), as well as multiple industry representatives. We (those with vested interests, including ISPA members) just let them die.

If we really want LLU to happen, we need to get those committees up and running, and offer expertise and support. There are plenty of examples we can copy (various countries in Europe have reasonable regulations), and the accumulated experience of multiple markets, if one's prepared to go looking for it.

More action, less talk.
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It has really not been a case of just letting it go - the issue has been pushed outside of the media on a continuing basis. ICASA feels that it needs to sort out its competition process before it can deal with this and particularly with wholesale pricing.

Telkom, as i understand it, were happy to be helpful at first but refused to go further outside of a formal process regarding the setting of a wholesale pricing framework
 
dominic said:
Telkom, as i understand it, were happy to be helpful at first but refused to go further outside of a formal process regarding the setting of a wholesale pricing framework
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Correct and they are also very busy working on it from their side; hence the restructuring and splitting of their wholesale/retail divisions.
 
snail said:
so let me ask a question, if Telkom has "built its network using public funds" then why are we, the consumer, paying for that last mile stretch of cable?
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As I understand it, Telkom build the network not with taxpayers money, but by procuring international loans, and the Goverment of the day, being the only shareholder recieved all the dividends. But I might be wrong.
 
dominic said:
Telkom, as i understand it, were happy to be helpful at first but refused to go further outside of a formal process regarding the setting of a wholesale pricing framework
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moggie said:
Correct and they are also very busy working on it from their side; hence the restructuring and splitting of their wholesale/retail divisions.
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So... no more doom and gloom? :(


:D:D:D

Good to hear that, thanks. :)
 
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