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[D3nz]

Trust me she doesnt. She just hates me. And no... the reason i dont want him to grow up with hinduism ks because i have a thing against religions that praise a god

Ah well, if she already hates you then there's nothing stopping you from learning the ridiculous bits about Hinduism and mocking her attempts to indoctrinate your son.

 

[Cray]

Does not change the fact that you are trying to force your opinion onto him.

How does one go about forcing your opinion on someone else? Does it involve waterboarding, hot coals, indoctrination ? Am curious as to when stating a contrary opinion becomes forcing it on someone, especially on an internet forum.

 

[SauRoNZA]

How does one go about forcing your opinion on someone else? Does it involve waterboarding, hot coals, indoctrination - am curious as to when stating a contrary opinion becomes forcing it on someone, especially on an internet forum.

Thanks! Someone still has their sanity around here.

 

[Ninja'd]

We are going to visit them next week, and this discussion helps me prepare mentally for the witch in law. They are not involved. She is just an overbearing thing... with issues.

You're not living in the same town so f**k her and her wants.

 

[SauRoNZA]

I would have to go with stating that my views are incorrect and that his opinions are the correct ones. About some flaw in my opinion invalidating it.

There are no points of discussion, simply a rant saying you are wrong, i am right. Seems legit

As opinion go there is nothing really right or wrong about them as they aren't factual.

If they were we would call them facts and not opinions.

There were loads of points of discussion if people didn't go hyper sensitive and immediately snowflaked with objection but instead discussed why their logic applies.

However you never bothered to offer your logic.

Also calling your mother in law a cuntbag in the very very post numerous times did already rub everything the wrong way and put your firmly in the wrong in my view so that doesn't help.

So by all means bring the points of discussion and explain your logic. Also please explain how you justify calling a member of your family a cuntbag on a public forum and feel good about yourself and how you will be raising a child in such surroundings.

I can only hope they never hear those words coming from your mouth to a family member and that it's purely macho keyboard warrior talk.

You started with a rant...but you want to object when I do the same towards you? That seems pretty hypocritical don't you think?

 

[Big Rat]

Tell her your Thor beats her Kali, and Zeus trumps the elephant man in hindu belief.. Sorted, you don't even have to unpack, can leave directly upon arriving.

 

[Cray]

I would have to go with stating that my views are incorrect and that his opinions are the correct ones. About some flaw in my opinion invalidating it.

There are no points of discussion, simply a rant saying you are wrong, i am right. Seems legit

You can argue that it's a flaw in his debate style but I still don't see how it's forcing his opinion on you, and you seem to be resisting the force of his opinion pretty well. It's the internet, people say that other people are wrong all the time, are you really in danger of adopting his opinion by force just because he says you are wrong?

 

[Cray]

You're not living in the same town so f**k her and her wants.

I doubt she'll want that....

 

[Ninja'd]

I doubt she'll want that....

Don't underestimate the allure of hatef**king.

 

[rietrot]

Ye. come to think of it... if she hasnt accepted the facts yet i guess there is no alternative but to pack up our sht and leave their house the moment she starts with her k2k

You live with them?

 

[Sensorei]

The grandparents should have brought this up earlier if they wanted any real leverage. When I 'asked' my step dad if I could marry my missus (small town narrow minded NG Kerker family) he said his only wish and concern is that we raise our children Christian. He was very polite about it at least.

 

[The_MAC]

I would highly recommend avoiding any concept of formally teaching your kid anything. Let them ask their own questions and pick things up as they go along. If there is anything that pushed me away from religious in the was the formal/forced manner in which it was presented to me.

The biggest problem is that most parents who "force" a religion onto their kids don't practice it themselves - I am not referring to attending church, praying before meals etc. I am referring to the practical application of your religion and its belief system in your behaviour. If your children see your behaviour and the practical application of your religion in your everyday life, they will naturally become curios, if you say and do the opposite, they will see you as hypocrites.

We are Christians, and I can see how our children naturally gravitate towards the faith by us living it. My 2 cents.

Raising your child into a religion that you do not practice makes zero sense - who will they reference?

 

[SauRoNZA]

Tell her your Thor beats her Kali, and Zeus trumps the elephant man in hindu belief.. Sorted, you don't even have to unpack, can leave directly upon arriving.

I honestly dont know what we are discussing. I just commented on how your post could have been seen as "forcing" and opinion on someone else. But im listening. What is it you wish to get my opinion on?

And yes... i have no shame in calling her just that. The things she has done to my wife, and my son... calling her a c3ntbag is light.

EDIT: Oh... well obviously im not going to call her a c3ntbag in person. Jsus. It should go without statement... its KBW talk. I just refer to her as Grandma Witchy CooCoo

Well kudos to you for admitting that much.

In your situation I would honestly say the path of least resistance is going to be the best for all.

How much time do your kids really spend there to get this deep indoctrination? Is it really worth the hassle for that little bit of time.

 

[Anti-Chris]

What does Buddhism teach about John 14:6?

Don't know, who cares what Jesus supposedly said anyways?
My favourite parts of the bible is exactly these verses, where a person that wasn't there writes about something Jesus supposedly said or done more than 100 years after the supposed incident...
You do realise that the Gospel of John was written in the 2nd century right?

 

[ShaunSA]

We are Christians, and I can see how our children naturally gravitate towards the faith by us living it. My 2 cents.

Raising your child into a religion that you do not practice makes zero sense - who will they reference?

They're copying their parents. You would have to live 10 different faiths to see which one they actually "gravitate" to.

 

[The_MAC]

Your kids so it's the parents decision as to what to do. Religion, in a nutshell, is just a method to ensure people control their inherent animalistic behavior. As the kids grow up, they will realise things for themselves and start making their own decisions regarding religion in general. The important step is to guide them and support them in their decisions and not denigrate their questions or thoughts as they start making their own decisions.

Pretty sure parents have been trying this flawed tactic for years. A child is inherently immature and its not good enough to just support and be there for them as they make up their own minds. Your experience as a parent plays a huge role in the amount of influence you have in your kids lives, but you have to be a shining example of it if you intend to "force" your kids into your belief system.

 

[seted]

I had a friend who was Christian (by choice) and raised Hindu. She has no problem going to church on Sunday, and doing the Hindu cultural stuff too.

Notwithstanding the clear cognitive dissonance of her beliefs, she is a well-adjusted, confident and happy person.

 

[Mista_Mobsta]

Pretty sure parents have been trying this flawed tactic for years. A child is inherently immature and its not good enough to just support and be there for them as they make up their own minds. Your experience as a parent plays a huge role in the amount of influence you have in your kids lives, but you have to be a shining example of it if you intend to "force" your kids into your belief system.

Agreed but the process takes many years to come to fruition. I was raised as a conservative Afrikaans Hervormde Kerk type but as I grew up I started asking questions and started realising that the religious teachings are lessons and not "indoctrination" as a lot of people state. Many people in the world do not have parents that teach them simple life lessons that we take for granted. Life lessons such as stealing, harming others etc is wrong. That is where the religious element comes in. A belief system where people feel they are a part of something larger and that makes them "fit" in. A lot of people take the belief system too far and that is how religious nutcases are made. As for "forcing" your kids into a belief system, you don't "force" your kids into a specific culture so I don't think the "forcing" tactic has any merit. You are raised into a specific culture and if that culture includes belief systems that teach kids (inherently immature as you correctly state) how to behave in a socially "good" manner, then the society moves forward as everyone respects one another and shares a value system.

 

[The_MAC]

They're copying their parents. You would have to live 10 different faiths to see which one they actually "gravitate" to.

Well then by that definition we are all copying someone else, nothing is our "own" choice or decision? Even Atheism..

 

[SauRoNZA]

Also this forces me to be more strict in my own practices cause as stated. Examples carry more weight than words, and i really need some inner peace.

Precisely why leading by example of tolerance to let the grand parents teach them the little they want to in the short time they have is maybe the better way to go about it.

Mine has gone to church a couple of times and it hardly leaves a lasting impression.