Jacob Zuma found Not Guilty

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That is implying that the ANC and Transformation is synonymous. Prove it. Your argument was nothing more than playing the race card. Instead of attacking the man based on arguments, you attack the man based on his allignment against your organisation - a racial implication that the ANC government and officials regularly use as a trump card.
 
Angelo said:
[QUOTE=pupa]Only one consolation! In Africa what the colonialists could not do Aids will, ie reduce the population! I hope they do not find an cure for the next 20 Years, Africa population down by 65%?
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Sight! Angelo my dear, where you got your genes. In that aids victims there is all races, mostly badys or uneducated that do not keep to safe sex principles. It is a known fact that the colonials did not care to instill population control by education or the other. Stop jumping to your own racist conclusions and become mature in life. Take the flack if facts are posted and keep your twisted mind at bay! If the truth hurts so much do not make it my burden, its yours!
 
kingmonty said:
That is implying that the ANC and Transformation is synonymous. Prove it. Your argument was nothing more than playing the race card. Instead of attacking the man based on arguments, you attack the man based on his allignment against your organisation - a racial implication that the ANC government and officials regularly use as a trump card.
Playing the race card? Craig hates the ANC, so i'm simply saying it's very difficult to see his views as impartial on matters related to the organisation, as for what motivates his hatred im not the one to answer that.
 
Baby said:
:) Amen to dat
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He is still a fraud and a pig and nobody should trust him near any woman, especially if it was supposed to be his comrade or friend! He does not deserve the huge following as showed, that belongs to an gentleman like Madiba! Zuma is not worth his final excretions! Got in GVT due to his terrorist activities not because his a human or leader IMHO! The example he set regards to the disregard to aids and corruption, let alone his lack of decency and trustworthiness as family man or husband, will cost this country dear. He set the example. As an Aids Activist put it he reversed all aids progress by 5 Years! His supporter is no different than him as they in principle in ways agree with what he has done!

Amen to Zumas Downfall!
 
Well whenever I see a politician with such a fanatical support as if they are some kind of superhero, it kinda makes me nervous. The worst part is they are blindly supporting somebody who may or may not be guilty - they don't know themselves yet they blindly support the man. Has anybody seen the news footage? These people couldn't be controlled. They were crowding on the roofs of police vans, hanging off the roofs of buildings and bringing traffic to a halt. I can only imagine the chaos they are going to cause if he is found guilty on corruption.
 
Angelo said:
Playing the race card? Craig hates the ANC, so i'm simply saying it's very difficult to see his views as impartial on matters related to the organisation, as for what motivates his hatred im not the one to answer that.
Craig hates the ANC because he believes it's a totally corrupt organisation. He has a right to his opinion. Why should his opinion count any less than yours, after all you probably hate the DA because they are not ANC right?
 
Angelo said:
Playing the race card? Craig hates the ANC, so i'm simply saying it's very difficult to see his views as impartial on matters related to the organisation, as for what motivates his hatred im not the one to answer that.
And you hate whites or rather all that is not aligned with your political views as then they are classified as rightwingers or someone that spreads hatred!
Why do ANC give the goons like Zuma the GVT positions, Look at Ivy! with all respect towards what she meant to the ANC, does she deserve the post? There are 1000's others. Take money, put them on a shelf and keep them going for life, then appoint true politicians that is not there for fraud and corruption with the expertise to manage, unlike Ivy! then we will all vote for the ANC!
 
pupa said:
Sight! Angelo my dear, where you got your genes. In that aids victims there is all races, mostly badys or uneducated that do not keep to safe sex principles. It is a known fact that the colonials did not care to instill population control by education or the other. Stop jumping to your own racist conclusions and become mature in life. Take the flack if facts are posted and keep your twisted mind at bay! If the truth hurts so much do not make it my burden, its yours!

The way you are getting your knickers in a knot you seem to be the one who is hurt and carrying a heavy burden. Who asked colonials to control the population? Will you be repeating this crap about AIDS being for the "badys or uneducated" if somebody close to you gets infected through rape?
 
"Craig hates the ANC, so i'm simply saying it's very difficult to see his views as impartial on matters related to the organisation, as for what motivates his hatred im not the one to answer that." Other's have answered the question adequately
 
@Angelo the anc got some white members as well so it cant be race motivated but rather how corrupt they are and not caring at all for the people of this country if the anc just use some of the simple stuff said on this forum before by us "mortals" we could have a much better economy
 
Highflyer_GP said:
Craig hates the ANC because he believes it's a totally corrupt organisation. He has a right to his opinion. Why should his opinion count any less than yours, after all you probably hate the DA because they are not ANC right?
Of course he has a right to his opinion I just don't think he can be objective with so much hatred consuming him. I don't hate no party (well except the AWB, thats if it still exists in this day and age) and stop speculating about my race or political allegiance.
 
Well then how about you stop speculating about other peoples races and political allegiances? Be fair, treat others as you would like them to treat you ;) It doesn't mean that if somebody doesn't like the ANC that they are automatically white right-wing extremists
 
pupa said:
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He is still a fraud and a pig and nobody should trust him near any woman, especially if it was supposed to be his comrade or friend! He does not deserve the huge following as showed, that belongs to an gentleman like Madiba! Zuma is not worth his final excretions! Got in GVT due to his terrorist activities not because his a human or leader IMHO! The example he set regards to the disregard to aids and corruption, let alone his lack of decency and trustworthiness as family man or husband, will cost this country dear. He set the example. As an Aids Activist put it he reversed all aids progress by 5 Years! His supporter is no different than him as they in principle in ways agree with what he has done!

Amen to Zumas Downfall!
If only your impassioned plea could be heard in the corridors of power where it matters, maybe it would make a huge difference. LOL :D
 
Angelo said:
The way you are getting your knickers in a knot you seem to be the one who is hurt and carrying a heavy burden. Who asked colonials to control the population? Will you be repeating this crap about AIDS being for the "badys or uneducated" if somebody close to you gets infected through rape?
Nope I will try and give my close relatives all the protection I can get! I will kill the culprit that caused it as you cannot rely on the law and if I survive will get the member good treatment. The only reason why rape is such a spread of aids is the GVT position and lack of understanding of the subject so all the bady's that have false perception of Aids and how to cure or protect against it is spreading the disease. Look at Zumas comments, now he has all kinds of excuses but the damage is done! like your president said a few years back, Aids was not a virus and were not spread by sex and all the world experts had it wrong. Now live with it! while you vote ANC that does nothing on the issue except not spend the budgets and pocket the donated funds for own use!

As for the colonials, that is hurting you so much, did not ask anyone, did not need to, they lifted you out of the bush without asking and today still lead the world! They made errors but not as big as the African nations that squandard what they got for free and now have nothing but handouts they receive. Are we going the same way? Vote ANC and you will experience it! for sure!
 
To sidestep the heated debate going on.

Do you guys think if zuma takes over we'll be heading the way of Zimbabwe in a huge hurry. There are many similarities between the views of zuma and mugabe.

Is it fair to compare the two and put them in the same category, or is zuma an innocent man, not the brightest, but innocent and should be treated that way.

Either way I think I'm going to go take a shower and wash off the sins of my neighbours apartheid forefathers.
 
DigitalSoldier said:
@Angelo the anc got some white members as well so it cant be race motivated but rather how corrupt they are and not caring at all for the people of this country if the anc just use some of the simple stuff said on this forum before by us "mortals" we could have a much better economy
Well....

Do you think any human (or group of humans) has the right to tell another human (or group of humans) how to live their life? As soon as you start making rules for other people to follow you create oppression.

Anything this forum (or any other forum \ party - ANC, DA, IFP, SACP, COSATU or ACDP) thinks should be totally irrelevant in how you live your life, unfortunately, politicians (synonym: f*ckheads) think they know "best".

That's why the whole concept of "majority rule" or even democracy ("the common people rule") is inherently flawed. You're still being told how to live by someone who may not give a flying fig about you.
 
Angelo said:
Playing the race card? Craig hates the ANC, so i'm simply saying it's very difficult to see his views as impartial on matters related to the organisation, as for what motivates his hatred im not the one to answer that.
I do hate the anc as they are 100% corrupt to the core. Don't forget there are whites, blacks, indians in the anc so don't say i am racist. I am absolutely opposed to any corruption. I will not stand by while my fellow citizens are "raped" by their so called leaders.

@kingmonty - thanks mate :)
 
BlobNow said:
To sidestep the heated debate going on.

Do you guys think if zuma takes over we'll be heading the way of Zimbabwe in a huge hurry. There are many similarities between the views of zuma and mugabe.

Is it fair to compare the two and put them in the same category, or is zuma an innocent man, not the brightest, but innocent and should be treated that way.

Either way I think I'm going to go take a shower and wash off the sins of my neighbours apartheid forefathers.
Hi Blob, the Zuma issue is more complicated than it seems, I think it's better to await the conclusion of the corruption trial.
 
BlobNow said:
Do you guys think if zuma takes over we'll be heading the way of Zimbabwe in a huge hurry. There are many similarities between the views of zuma and mugabe.

Is it fair to compare the two and put them in the same category, or is zuma an innocent man, not the brightest, but innocent and should be treated that way.

Either way I think I'm going to go take a shower and wash off the sins of my neighbours apartheid forefathers.
I think certain systems (like the constitution) will prevent Zuma from going the route of Zimbabwe. But I do think there are big power struggles at play in the top of the ANC ranks, and that does not bode well for us as South African citizens if Zuma is the next president.
 
DigitalSoldier said:
@Angelo the anc got some white members as well so it cant be race motivated but rather how corrupt they are and not caring at all for the people of this country if the anc just use some of the simple stuff said on this forum before by us "mortals" we could have a much better economy
Where were you "mortals" and your "caring for the people" when you had much more than a cyber forum to make a difference in the days of naked inequality?
 
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