Except they are reiterating what they said last week already.
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Except they are reiterating what they said last week already.
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Oi! Shouldn't you be starting racist outing threads or eating cake in Rustenburg?
There is no assumption going on here. The "good story to tell" is stalling. Your prez cost the country Billions a few weeks ago, graft is institutional in the structures and the poorest still suffer. Getting them to vote to maintain the status quo for the parasite class falls to one boogeyman now. Apartheid.
This will be our bread and butter in the media 'till right after local polling has taken place... Then there will be an 18 month reprieve after which we'll be back in full swing for the general election.
PS. Best you quote this post for future reference, you know, so you can prove me wrong.
theratman
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The sad thing is there is more than enough ammunition for them, so many racist posts and statuses on Facebook. Heck when I go out for some drinks (stay in a conservative area) the K word is thrown around by the locals like it's a normal thing to say.
Oh right, so in the same week that the ANC has it's huge birthday bash and which sets off their election campaign for the 2016 elections, somehow the media just happens to be alerted to a social media crapstorm involving the very same kind of thing the ANC plans to use to justify their election campaign. Totes a coindecence. Promise.
Yeah. You're right. The ANC made all these racists post and say these offensive things. I have seen the light. It was all engineered and totally does not reflect the views of the populace.
The current legislation is not punitive enough to act as a deterrent against these idiots, unfortunately.
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Those posts and others like them have been there all along. They're not particularly hard to find if you go looking for them. The point is someone went looking for them, and they did so with an agenda in mind.
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Watch how they don't criminalise racism in a generic form , but instead anything that relates to "promoting apartheid" or showing "apartheid denial" . Now since lately almost everything to do with a white person is "apartheid embodied" , they will be able to jail white people for almost any criticism against the ANC.
This way, racism in SA, will be a "white crime" only.
In Germany the law was justified because the majority of people were german and were in power and needed a reality check. In SA, white people are the minority and not in power, yet the ANC/blacks still seem they need more control over the whites as opposed to using their power to move forward.
Irony is, they are looking at Germany's laws after the war, yet they should be looking at what the Nazis actually did BEFORE the war to the Jews (before they started killing them) . They did the exact same thing the ANC is doing now. Majority Germans suppressing a minority Jews with more and more absurd and impartial laws (favoring the Nazis) because of a totally absurd idea that the tiny amount of jews in germany was ruining their country... the germans were so lost in this agenda that they didn't even notice what Hitler was doing....
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Yep, very sad indeed... all races doing it, not just 'white', and there will always be those people. But across all races, I do believe the numbers are very few, the rest of us just want to live our lives and get along. Spreading the crap through media etc has just increased their vote count
One of the many problems we have in SA is that the well intentioned laws we already have are not enforced, and when these laws are enforced, the enforcement is far from impartial.
A simple example that motorists of all races have had to deal with for two decades, is taxi drivers breaking traffic laws and regulations while the traffic/metro police turn a blind eye or more usually solicit bribes.
This lack of enforcement by traffic/metro police has over time resulted in a culture of general lawlessness on the roads where traffic/metro police cherry pick who they are going to pull over based on how expensive the vehicle is, and consequently the chance of soliciting and extorting a larger amount of bribe money.
We have a president that puts himself first before the interests of the country and has openly stated that the political party he leads is more important than the country as a whole. That is a clear contravention of The Constitution and contravenes the oath he swore when he took office.
The ruling party is quick to pull out the race card when there is any criticism of the president and/or the ruling party, even when there is clearly no grounds for labelling criticism as racist.
If racists are to be jailed, justice must be applied equally and that includes jailing quite a few racist people in all tiers of the ruling party as well as the rest of society. Unfortunately this will never happen fairly since the ruling party has corrupted all state institutions to ensure that the ruling party protects its own from prosecution.
A simple example that motorists of all races have had to deal with for two decades, is taxi drivers breaking traffic laws and regulations while the traffic/metro police turn a blind eye or more usually solicit bribes.
This lack of enforcement by traffic/metro police has over time resulted in a culture of general lawlessness on the roads where traffic/metro police cherry pick who they are going to pull over based on how expensive the vehicle is, and consequently the chance of soliciting and extorting a larger amount of bribe money.
We have a president that puts himself first before the interests of the country and has openly stated that the political party he leads is more important than the country as a whole. That is a clear contravention of The Constitution and contravenes the oath he swore when he took office.
The ruling party is quick to pull out the race card when there is any criticism of the president and/or the ruling party, even when there is clearly no grounds for labelling criticism as racist.
If racists are to be jailed, justice must be applied equally and that includes jailing quite a few racist people in all tiers of the ruling party as well as the rest of society. Unfortunately this will never happen fairly since the ruling party has corrupted all state institutions to ensure that the ruling party protects its own from prosecution.
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Which Laws are you referring to (or not)?
theratman
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Yes it's not just whites, but I do think whites are more brazen about it (in my personal experience)
theratman
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They fought against Apartheid, which was an extreme version of racism. Not the same imo.
Yip - much like Windows 10 is an extreme version of Windows. Got it.
I didn't know, till now, there were levels of racism. I keep getting enlightened every day. isn't life wonderful
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But you are referring specifically to racist statements. Which means that you are indeed complaining that your feelings are hurt because that's the only thing being hurt in this case. Other than that, it affects you not a whit.
All of those who fought and died for a non racial South Africa did it because they believed in the fundamental human dignity of all people. That includes the fundamental human right of being allowed to express what one truly believes even if the rest of humanity finds it disgusting or offensive.
You do not have the right to silence others simply because you consider what they say to be offensive. And that's all you have to complain about here.
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Your argument is completely bogus.
theratman
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Theres a huge difference between being a racist and implementing apartheid. I'm not saying either are right, I'm simply pointing out that Apartheid is racism at its extreme and not the same as your usual run of the mill racist comment made by an idiot.
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Haven't seen many white people calling for death camps and extermination, or for entire races to be driven into the sea lately.
Have you?
I'm not in the least bit surprised you would think that. Saying apartheid and racism are not the same absolutely is NOT a bogus argument. A regime borne out of hatred and oppression to a race should not be thrown in the same category as racists. How ignorant of me. My apologies.
Hilarious.
Racists are racists, racism is racism, it either is or it isn't, we can't go down a road of 'scaling degrees'. If one person is more brazen than another about it, doesn't change the fact that they are both racists. Eg, saw a post from someone about wanting to skin all white people(was screen shot posted on here somewhere), that to me is more 'brazen' than any other post I've seen, regardless of posters colour. It doesn't make it more or less racist than what sparrow said. They are both racist.
theratman
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Unfortunately I have, as I said it was in my personal experience, which mean I've been exposed to it and it may not apply to everyone. Everyone's experience in this regard will be different as they won't be in the same social circles as me.
I often come across shared posts from racist facebook groups, I do unfriend the people who post them. I don't have many black friends on facebook so I don't racists posts from them, but as I said earlier it goes BOTH ways.
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