JIA name officially changed - apparently

Should government steer clear of all political names when renaming national assets?

  • Yes

    Votes: 72 90.0%
  • No

    Votes: 5 6.3%
  • Not sure

    Votes: 3 3.8%

  • Total voters
    80

ajak

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Stupid Stupid Ppl

They dont care about this, lets rather spend millions on a name change(bloody fools
Job-creation was a leading goal of government policy during the first decade of democracy in South Africa. However, little success has been achieved in the struggle to create sufficient jobs in the economy. Extensive unemployment remains stubbornly entrenched. Using the expanded definition of unemployment (which includes people who have given up looking for work), the unemployment rate was estimated to be 28.6% at the time of the transition to democracy (Altman 2003:5). The most recent estimates (March 2004) find the unemployment rate to be 41.2% using the expanded definition and 27.8% using the strict definition (Statistics South Africa 2004).2 This translates, respectively, into 8.4 million or 4.6 million unemployed people, depending on the definition of unemployment being used.
The third is that the overwhelming majority of the unemployed are semi-skilled or unskilled. Fourthly, unemployment in South Africa is not only due to too little demand for labour in the aggregate (linked to insufficient economic growth). The problem is also that the demand for labour does not match the skills profile of the majority of work-seekers (Bhorat 2004). This means, as President Mbeki has pointed out (2002), that much higher rates of economic growth will not, on their own solve the unemployment crisis. The unemployment situation in South Africa has profound implications for poverty, human rights and political stability. Unemployment is associated with extensive and deep poverty at the household level. In the absence of a social assistance programme targeted at the unemployed and with poor access to productive assets (such as land and skills), the majority of the unemployed face a daily struggle to meet their basic needs. This situation is at odds with the Constitution, which gives all South Africans a comprehensive set of justiciable socio-economic rights. It challenges the state to generate and use society’s resources in such a way that everyone – including the millions who are poor due to unemployment – is able to meet basic needs and live a life of dignity.
 

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ajak said:
They dont care about this, lets rather spend millions on a name change(bloody fools
Job-creation was a leading goal of government policy during the first decade of democracy in South Africa. However, little success has been achieved in the struggle to create sufficient jobs in the economy. Extensive unemployment remains stubbornly entrenched. Using the expanded definition of unemployment (which includes people who have given up looking for work), the unemployment rate was estimated to be 28.6% at the time of the transition to democracy (Altman 2003:5). The most recent estimates (March 2004) find the unemployment rate to be 41.2% using the expanded definition and 27.8% using the strict definition (Statistics South Africa 2004).2 This translates, respectively, into 8.4 million or 4.6 million unemployed people, depending on the definition of unemployment being used.
The third is that the overwhelming majority of the unemployed are semi-skilled or unskilled. Fourthly, unemployment in South Africa is not only due to too little demand for labour in the aggregate (linked to insufficient economic growth). The problem is also that the demand for labour does not match the skills profile of the majority of work-seekers (Bhorat 2004). This means, as President Mbeki has pointed out (2002), that much higher rates of economic growth will not, on their own solve the unemployment crisis. The unemployment situation in South Africa has profound implications for poverty, human rights and political stability. Unemployment is associated with extensive and deep poverty at the household level. In the absence of a social assistance programme targeted at the unemployed and with poor access to productive assets (such as land and skills), the majority of the unemployed face a daily struggle to meet their basic needs. This situation is at odds with the Constitution, which gives all South Africans a comprehensive set of justiciable socio-economic rights. It challenges the state to generate and use society’s resources in such a way that everyone – including the millions who are poor due to unemployment – is able to meet basic needs and live a life of dignity.
put paragraphs next time you rant, people might just read it.
 

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kingmonty said:
@angelo: must you quote the entire text every time?
When a simple one liner will do. (ajak please don't rant it hurts my ears - or ajak please rant some more it tickles me in places I like to be tickled!) :p
 

Phaff

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Africa likes changes, maybe we have to just get used to living in Africa, just look at Congo, its had so many names I dont even think they know what its called :)
In a few years time no doubt there will be a new dude in charge, he will take one look at OR Tambo International (ORTI) and decide it needs an upgrade...I know, lets rename it!! :)
 

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JBF do u mean the ANC can sink that low that they have to pay some1 to talk good about them on an INTERNET forum ? :D
 

supersunbird

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Angelo, maybe you could answer a question or two we ask you, people might just then care for what you say... (ignore me as usual, i dont care)
 

nGAGEd55

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Angelo, just please answer this question for me: What do you think most people's answer would be if you asked them whether we should spend a few million on renaming airports and cities or that we should spend that money on housing, and service delivery and spending it on things that can actually make a difference in the lives of people who so desperately need it?
 

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supersunbird said:
Angelo, maybe you could answer a question or two we ask you, people might just then care for what you say... (ignore me as usual, i dont care)
Hey Birdie come now, relax.....I was offline only saw your message now, not ignoring you. :)
 

kingmonty

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supersunbird said:
Angelo, maybe you could answer a question or two we ask you, people might just then care for what you say
I don't think trolls are capable of answering questions... not directly anyway
 

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DigitalSoldier said:
JBF do u mean the ANC can sink that low that they have to pay some1 to talk good about them on an INTERNET forum ? :D
Yeah that would be pretty low, they rather pay their people to communicate party info on truly national platforms like Radio, TV, Newspapers etc. In this way they are reaching the majority and not just a handful of previlliged pessimists who express their fear for change online.
 

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Angelo said:
rather pay their people to communicate party info on truly national platforms like Radio, TV, Newspapers etc.

Hell; why pay when you've got the SABC in your back pocket?
 

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nGAGEd55 said:
Angelo, just please answer this question for me: What do you think most people's answer would be if you asked them whether we should spend a few million on renaming airports and cities or that we should spend that money on housing, and service delivery and spending it on things that can actually make a difference in the lives of people who so desperately need it?
Your logic is flawed and almost irritating, tibby has already addressed that question with official stats but unsurprisingly he just got negative and illogical drivel in reply. You people ask questions, they get answered, you ask them again, they get answered........you seem to enjoy being negative, but good luck to your health.

Government(in all countries) has a responsibility to address ALL issues facing the country, that's why we have things called Government Departments, these Departments deal with specific issues, just because the Department of Arts and Culture (using its own budget allocated for such things) is busy renaming the Airport doesn't mean that the Departments of Housing, Health, Education etc have come to a standstill until Arts and Culture completes its renaming projects.

Jeez..........I thought I only had to give such explanations to the modern ignorant high school youth. It's the last you'll hear from me on this matter, see where your backward agenda takes you! :mad:
 

DigitalSoldier

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Angelo said:
It's the last you'll hear from me on this matter, see where your backward agenda takes you! :mad:

FINALLY :D

Well this "backward agenda" helped us in the struggle to get you to leave the matter so the rest of the people can debate :p
 

nGAGEd55

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Angelo said:
Your logic is flawed and almost irritating, tibby has already addressed that question with official stats but unsurprisingly he just got negative and illogical drivel in reply. You people ask questions, they get answered, you ask them again, they get answered........you seem to enjoy being negative, but good luck to your health.

Government(in all countries) has a responsibility to address ALL issues facing the country, that's why we have things called Government Departments, these Departments deal with specific issues, just because the Department of Arts and Culture (using its own budget allocated for such things) is busy renaming the Airport doesn't mean that the Departments of Housing, Health, Education etc have come to a standstill until Arts and Culture completes its renaming projects.

Jeez..........I thought I only had to give such explanations to the modern ignorant high school youth. It's the last you'll hear from me on this matter, see where your backward agenda takes you! :mad:
Well sorry, my original question was never answered, and I would appreciate it if you could show me where tibby posted these stats, because he hasn't once posted in this thread.

And why couldn't that money that's been allocated for renaming of Airports and such things given to some of the other departments for more important things?

And you're avoiding my question, what would the majority of South Africans say? Come on, just answer the damn question! :mad:

Oh and BTW, I suppose you should give me these explanations, since I am some 'modern ignorant high school youth'.

And dont be so childish to run away whenever you cant answer the question, you remind me of most of our current politicians, bunch of cowards.
 
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