Just bought a used car

I think the fact that you going around relaying your wife's role in the mess does not reflect very good on you, what is done is done rather sort out the mess and you will sort out your issues with your wife at home.
 
blesslot said:
@Rocket-Boy,
Yes. (When we bought the car) They said they were still going to settle the car and then have it registered in their name before they can send us the papers. The problem was that they said I should register myself with the department of traffic so they could find me easily when transferring (since I was a first time car owner), which was some serious cow-dung (i later found out after it was echoed in the forum also as BS). The whole traffic department stood still when I went in to 'register in their database'...they were very very certain i had been scammed and related some gruesome stories of other people who had come to them about things like this and buying dodgy and from dodgy 'dealerships'. They said I should allow them to check it on their system...actually they insisted but I implored them to let me resolve it all by taking it back therefore not inconveniencing me...thank goodness the traffic officers are human, had they been robots, I'd be truly fs&%ed.

What I knew for sure was that, I could not buy anything for the car...canopy, tracker, tyres (because the one rear tyre was slightly worn out), tanneu (however the hell it is spelled) cover and even insurance until I had the papers proving me as the owner or at least the dealership but then I had absolutely ziltch. Hopefully by tomorrow Id have all this behind me. Will keep you lot in the loop.
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That is the only reason that makes sense. Hopefully you get sorted and good luck.
 
RedViking said:
And this is why those 'dealerships' are still in business......
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I just think the fact that OP does not understand the process blurs the lines a little and I am very cautious in blaming the dealership, for example we only hear about the story of the dealer settling the car today and that the car had temporary number plates on, seems to me like a lot of misunderstanding happened between the dealer and OP, and the dealer's story might be very reasonable if we were to hear it.
 
thechamp said:
I just think the fact that OP does not understand the process blurs the lines a little and I am very cautious in blaming the dealership, for example we only hear about the story of the dealer settling the car today and that the car had temporary number plates on, seems to me like a lot of misunderstanding happened between the dealer and OP, and the dealer's story might be very reasonable if we were to hear it.
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I'm starting to feel this poor guy got scammed, he bought a clunker and should've returned it, but unfortunately the CPA doesn't really cover that unless he can prove the things are broken and and.
 
so right now the car is at the dealership,they have your money and you have a handwritten invoice?

I hope this does not play out like we all expect it will.
 
I just hope everything works out for your sake. Why didn't you take someone with you who knows more about cars when you went to buy the car.
 
Yes. I hope so too. I dont want to be too positively anticipative (if such a word exists) but both, we (dealership and us) made mistakes at the initial. They called me today and said the bakkie and the papers are good. I will collect tomorrow.
 
blesslot said:
Yes. I hope so too. I dont want to be too positively anticipative (if such a word exists) but both, we (dealership and us) made mistakes at the initial. They called me today and said the bakkie and the papers are good. I will collect tomorrow.
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Congrats on you car, hopefully you've had all of the drama and nothing more from now. Good luck.
 
blesslot said:
Yes. I hope so too. I dont want to be too positively anticipative (if such a word exists) but both, we (dealership and us) made mistakes at the initial. They called me today and said the bakkie and the papers are good. I will collect tomorrow.
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Good luck, lets hope it's all good from now on :-).
 
blesslot said:
Yes. I hope so too. I dont want to be too positively anticipative (if such a word exists) but both, we (dealership and us) made mistakes at the initial. They called me today and said the bakkie and the papers are good. I will collect tomorrow.
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How is the engine ever going to be ok if it was run with no oil or did they rebuild the motor in the meantime?
 
airborne said:
How is the engine ever going to be ok if it was run with no oil or did they rebuild the motor in the meantime?
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Update:

Apparently the issue was not running an oil-less engine but a diesel pump sensor that went bad due to water and we poured too much engine oil in our frantic attempt at a solution. It was raining that day when the bakkie broke down. When we collected the car plus the papers, the car broke down twice again due to the sensor and the escort car that we have been driving with got robbed on the N1/N4 offramp/M22 by a group of thugs with guns, it was a nasty experience. I called the dealership manager and he came and towed us, he apologized profusely and booked us into a lodge and bought us dinner then took the car. The next day they brought it back having replaced the sensor with a new one and insulated the connection better (I think). We drove the car back without any further issues. I managed to register the car and license it with no hassles and also realized that the traffic and licensing department could use an inspectorate as corruption is rife. I then discovered things that are not right with the car: First, the car has been painted and the paint job was about 88% well done. Secondly, the driver's side front wheel failed to turn 100% left as it scratches the underside of the car. Thirdly, the airbag warning light never stopped flashing and the steering wheel buttons were not working and there was a panel on the steering wheel that would fall off. Fourthly, there was a noise that sounded like a grinding of sorts...high pitched like a bearing that requires oil sort of thing. This noise would come on on startup and at idling. My uncle recommended greasing the fanbelt system (whatever that meant) so we decided to take it to Toyota for an assessment which we did. The report was the car was involved in an accident as it indicated that it fell on the driver's side and so required an engine strip and quote to understand its condition. It was missing many nuts and bolts, it had too much engine oil, it needed to be skimmed and rebonded, the airbag inflator was faulty, the diesel filter and air filter was clogged with water, debris and oil and it was also recommended that we take it to a panel beater for chassis alignment assessment. I sort of kind of got the belief that the wheel scratching was a chassis alignment issue. So we took it to a panelbeater who was only interested in just stating that it was painted something about orange peel. I insisted on the chassis alignment assessment and they said we must take it for wheel alignment. After much reluctance, we took it to a service point to have a wheel alignment assessment. I explained the wheel rubbing issue to the guys at the wheel alignment shop and he confirmed that the driver side front wheel needs to be pulled to the right a bit and I asked him who could do that, him or the panelbeaters and he said the panelbeaters. The car's wheels managed to align and we took the report to the panelbeaters and that is when they took the car into their workshop and lifted it up and inspected it. They said we must replace the front control arms and fit a new underplate at a cost of R16 000 incl Vat and the car would be at their shop for 2 weeks. That was BS, I thought to myself so I decided to acquire a second opinion. Luckily there was another panelbeater close by and I went to them for a chassis alignment assessment. They made an appointment and I took the car in and after 3 hours called and said the car was perfectly aligned. I then explained to them the wheel rubbing problem and the old grandpa went old-school on the bakkie and said its steering rack was not centred and it was about half a turn off. He said I should take it for wheel alignment and I said I am already from wheel alignment and they said the problem must be fixed by panelbeaters to which the old man replied 'nonsense' and drove with me to the wheel alignment shop and spoke with the boss who arranged an appointment in the morning to center the steering rack free of charge. No need to replace control arms and R16 000 whatnot. The car was now amazing after that. I was thinking then of getting another second opinion on the Toyota assessment but the wife insisted I go with them as we want new service book with them as well. So we booked the car in for an engine strip and quote, plus a new spare key and electrical system assessment. They took the car for two days and called me on the third and gave a quotation that was in the region of R200 000. They said the car's accident has bent a conrod and the top engine assembly had to be scrapped and a new one fitted in. New turbocharger, intercooler, gasket kit, timing belt, filters...I was buying a new car basically. I called the dealership where I bought the car, he was livid and said we must ask that they close it back and give it back and then bring it to him. I paid R14 000 for the strip and quote and Toyota said if I don't follow their advice I will not get a new service book. I asked them to close it up and asked when I can collect. They said last Friday but on Friday they said this week Tuesday. They said the job is delicate and must not be rushed. I am thinking BS. But what can I do...


I am adviced to take the car back to the dealership and demand my money back though a lawyer even. I am doubtful of that though but I could try. And like I said, we have fallen in love with the car and want to keep it and moreover do that with the peace of mind that it won't break down on us. I have since asked the service consultant at Toyota to have their technician prepare a report for us on the condition of the car at the strip and quote. Hopefully tomorrow I will know how to proceed.
 
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