K53 No longer relevant for sa drivers - RTMC

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JOHANNESBURG - The Road Traffic Management Corporation (RTMC) says it will be calling for a number of changes to driving laws, including the revision of the k53 as one of the measures to minimise road deaths.

This is after Transport Minister Blade Nzimande announced that 767 people had lost their lives on the country’s roadsin the first 18 days of December.

The RTMC says about 17,000 officers have been deployed on the country's roads this festive season.

The RTMC says it has found that the k53 is no longer relevant for South African drivers.

“The K53 has not been revised since it was introduced in South Africa, and a lot has happened. Even the technology used in vehicles is far more advanced,” says RTMC spokesperson Simon Zwane
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https://ewn.co.za/2018/12/23/k53-no-longer-relevant-for-sa-drivers-rtmc
 
"Some of the changes the RTMC is looking to make include the retesting of drivers every five years when they renew their licenses, and novice drivers to be accompanied experienced drivers for the first six months behind the wheel."

Really? It took me nearly 4 hours to have an eye test done!
 
Düber said:
"Some of the changes the RTMC is looking to make include the retesting of drivers every five years when they renew their licenses, and novice drivers to be accompanied experienced drivers for the first six months behind the wheel."

Really? It took me nearly 4 hours to have an eye test done!
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Yeah, if this is what they're proposing then it's bs. They must come up with something that'd make it impossible to get a license if you can't drive.

And convict corrupt officials
 
The problem is BEHAVIOURAL, not related to driver education.
The problem is the whole attitude some have towards driving and traffic.
A lot of this is a consequence of poor policing and allowing the taxi mafia to get away with it for decades.
 
ArtyLoop said:
The problem is BEHAVIOURAL, not related to driver education.
The problem is the whole attitude some have towards driving and traffic.
A lot of this is a consequence of poor policing and allowing the taxi mafia to get away with it for decades.
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Exactly this. Running red lights, sms's and whatsapp while driving, stop streets treated as yield's, tyres too slick to even go racing with, too impatient to wait for a gap in the traffic....... Grrrrrrrrr
And the cop's will sit 50m away from chaos, checking licence discs.
 
I think Blade and his guys are confused, people don't drive recklessly because they don't know how to drive or are confused by road rules, they just don't care, next thing they'll tell us that people don't know they have to stop at a stop sign.
 
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Düber said:
"Some of the changes the RTMC is looking to make include the retesting of drivers every five years when they renew their licenses, and novice drivers to be accompanied experienced drivers for the first six months behind the wheel."

Really? It took me nearly 4 hours to have an eye test done!
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That sounds like another money making racket...
 
Düber said:
Exactly this. Running red lights, sms's and whatsapp while driving, stop streets treated as yield's, tyres too slick to even go racing with, too impatient to wait for a gap in the traffic....... Grrrrrrrrr
And the cop's will sit 50m away from chaos, checking licence discs.
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A big problem is that we have stop signs when they should be yield signs in a lot of places, e.g. there are a couple of roads close to me that have 90% of the traffic going straight, yet there are stop signs there. Also certain T-junctions where the straight go'ers have a stop sign when they are the majority of traffic.
Then some dumb speed limits,
Speed Limits: Not How We Should Drive, But How We Do Drive

It’s important that a speed limit isn’t too low or too high. If it’s too low, some drivers will ignore it drive as fast as they want. If it’s too high, some drivers will become overwhelmed and drive much too slowly. Thus, it’s best to decide upon a speed limit that’s close to what most people actually drive–not what lawmakers want them to drive.


If you ask a transportation safety engineer about how speed limits are determined, you’ll probably hear the 85th percentile mentioned. This method of calculation is used by many in North America for establishing regulatory speed zones. It assumes that the majority of drivers will naturally find a speed at which they’re most comfortable, fitting with the flow of traffic and avoiding crashes.


Thus, it takes into account the actual driving habits of people. Gathering a significant amount of driving data on the area, experts will chart average speeds to find a point at or below which 85% of people actually drive. That becomes the maximum safety speed.

http://thenewswheel.com/how-are-speed-limits-determined/
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E.g. R27 completely disregards this as a vast majority are driving 80 on it, while the section there just before wood bridge also has most driving 80.
Red is speed limit, black is what most actually drive, north to south:
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Most hit 80 coming down the bridge already, but the 80 zone actually only starts past boundary road.

If speed limits are not properly set, and spot signs are not properly used, it makes people break the law there, and then they are less likely to hesitate breaking the law later.
That's why law enforcement should go hand in hand with proper laws/implementation.

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Summary of Findings
The pertinent findings of this study, conducted to examine the effects of lowing and raising posted speed limits on nonlimited access rural and urban highways, are listed below:
  • Based on the free-flow speed data collected for a 24-h period at the experimental and comparison sites in 22 States, posted speed limits were set, on the average, at the 45th percentile speed or below the average speed of traffic
  • Speed limits were posted, on average, between 5 and 16 mi/h (8 and 26 km/h) below the 85th percentile speed.
  • Lowering speed limits by 5, 10, 15, or 20 mi/h (8, 16, 24, or 26 km/h) at the study sites had a minor effect on vehicle speeds. Posting lower speed limits does not decrease motorist's speeds.
  • Raising speed limits by 5, 10, or 15 mi/h (8, 16, or 25 km/h) at the rural and urban sites had a minor effect on vehicle speeds. In other words, an increase in the posted speed limit did not create a corresponding increase in vehicle speeds.
  • The average change in any of the percentile speeds at the experimental sites was less than 1.5 mi/h (2.4 m/h), regardless of whether the speed limit was raised or lowered.
  • Where speed limits were lowered, an examination of speed distribution indicated the slowest drivers (1st percentile) increased their speed approximately 1 mi/h (1/6 km/h). There were no changes on the high-speed drivers (99th percentile)
  • At sites where speed limits were raised, there was an increase of less than 1.5 mi/h (2.4 km/h) for drivers traveling at and below the 75th percentile speed. When the posted limits were raised by 10 and 15 mi/h (16 and 24 km/h), there was a small decrease in the 99th percentile speed.
  • Raising speed limits in the region of the 85th percentile speed has an extremely beneficial effect on drivers complying with the posted speed limits.
  • Lowering speed limits in the 33rd percentile speed (the average percentile that speed were posted in this study) provides a noncompliance rate of approximately 67 percent.
  • After speed limits were altered at the experimental sites, less than one-half of the drivers complied with the new posed limits.
  • Only minor changes in vehicles following as headways less than 2s were found at the experimental sites.
  • Accidents at the 58 experimental sites where speed limits were lowered increased by 5.4 percent. The level of confidence of this estimate is 44 percent. The 95 percent confidence limits for this estimate ranges from a reduction in accidents of 11 percent to an increase of 26 percent.
  • Accidents at the 41 experimental sites where speed limits were raised decreased by 6.7 percent. The level of confidence of this estimate in 59 percent. The 95 percent confidence limits for this estimate ranges from a reduction in accidents of 21 percent to an increase of 10 percent.
  • Lowering speed limits more than 5 mi/h (8 km/h) below the 85th percentile speed of traffic did not reduce accidents.
  • The indirect effects of speed limit changes on a sample of contiguous and adjacent roadways was found to be very small and insignificant.
https://www.ibiblio.org/rdu/sl-irrel.html
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Totally against redoing all my licenses every five years, the system can’t cope with new entrants obtaining the diver licenses how are they going to fit in everybody with renewals?
This is going to open the gates of bought licenses even wider.
The roads need visible traffic enforcement and not their cameras that they populate all over the show.

Got people driving scrap on the roads and not even batting an eye lid
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Medres said:
Totally against redoing all my licenses every five years, the system can’t cope with new entrants obtaining the diver licenses how are they going to fit in everybody with renewals?
This is going to open the gates of bought licenses even wider.
The roads need visible traffic enforcement and not their cameras that they populate all over the show.

Got people driving scrap on the roads and not even batting an eye lid
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That's because the hoenderhokke (as per the photo) belong to those indigent folk and they happen to be the ANC voters. Because insurance is the rip-off it is and people can get their hoenderhok through roadworthy, albeit at a bribe fee
 
Someone needs to teach South Africans what ARROWS are. you know the things on the toys your parents bought you when you were three. If its RED with a RIGHT ARROW it means you can't turn right even if its Green on the STRAIGHT ARROW.

its not rocket science but seems to be beyond the grasp of many a South African.. :mad:
 
Start in the schools.
Look left look right look left again.
This does not even exist today.
Idiots just walk.
Darwin takes over.
Start in the bloody schools from as young as possible.
 
Here in KZN they buy their licences.K53 hasn't been relevant in a long time. When I wrote my learners, we were 50 in the class, only myself and another person passed that day, never mind the actual driving test.
 
RedViking said:
Here in KZN they buy their licences.K53 hasn't been relevant in a long time. When I wrote my learners, we were 50 in the class, only myself and another person passed that day, never mind the actual driving test.
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The time I wrote my learners there was a lady who was doing the truck one, think she had like 5 marks in total. Person marking in the front said that they wish they could permanently ban people.
Suffice to say she walked out crying.
 
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