Kill a Cow

Highflyer_GP said:
Xarog in most instances you're not even eating the plant itself - you're eating what the plant bears. They may have chemical reactions that dictate their behaviour, however they're not capable of making independent decisions. In that sense they're not aware - they lack the ability to think.
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The same can be said of animals. Do they really think, or do they react to instinct. Dogs might seem intelligent, but do they really think? Don't they just learn to react according to what their master is telling them?
 
Nick333 said:
Guts and such can be buried. Your black neighbours are probably not going to be doing this every other weekend you know. Its your right to make sure they don't leave rotten guts and stuff lying around.
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Yeah, maybe in a perfect world this would be true - but in practice there will be outbreaks of disease.

Highflyer_GP said:
Xarog in most instances you're not even eating the plant itself - you're eating what the plant bears. They may have chemical reactions that dictate their behaviour, however they're not capable of making independent decisions. In that sense they're not aware - they lack the ability to think.
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Who says most animals can think? Who says they aren't merely responding to instincts that are in their genes?

And it's only in a few select cases that you don't kill the plant when you eat from it. Wheat, rice and maize are all killed in the harvesting. It's really only fruit and some vegetables that you can eat without killing the whole organism.

Lastly - are you saying it would be OK to feed off an animal if you don't kill it? Can I chop the leg off a cow and eat it so long as I don't kill the cow? :D
 
Nod: Well you can scold a dog for pissing on your carpet and eventually he'll learn to stop doing it :D

But if you tell your neighbours tree to stop dropping it's leaves in your yard, would it listen? ;)

Either way I've taken up vegetarianism on a trial basis based on my current way of thinking. I don't think it will last forever since each of our thinking patterns are constantly changing.
 
Xarog said:
Lastly - are you saying it would be OK to feed off an animal if you don't kill it? Can I chop the leg off a cow and eat it so long as I don't kill the cow? :D
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LOL that wouldn't be very humane would it? Plants lack a central nervous system so they don't feel pain, you should know this - there's lots of reading material on what systems plants do possess :)
 
To be frank I think all life is important and should be valued. But I also recognise that almost all life feeds on other life, too. So I guess that's part of life, too.

I think to differentiate between types of life based on it's *apparent* awareness is silly - it's ultimately an arbitrary standard.
 
Highflyer_GP said:
LOL that wouldn't be very humane would it? Plants lack a central nervous system so they don't feel pain, you should know this - there's lots of reading material on what systems plants do possess :)
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Well, what if I fed it lots of painkillers and sedatives until the wound healed? :p
 
Highflyer_GP said:
Xarog in most instances you're not even eating the plant itself - you're eating what the plant bears. They may have chemical reactions that dictate their behaviour, however they're not capable of making independent decisions. In that sense they're not aware - they lack the ability to think.
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You are eating the plants babies!!! YOU BABY EATER!!! :mad:
 
Eating meat is in no way barbaric. That's like saying taking a ppis is barbaric...

Just because a plant doesn't feel the way animals "feel" (IE it doesn't have a central nervous system), doesn't make it very different. Do you think the plant likes being eaten? Course not. But that's the way it is...

If we continue with this touchy-feely BS soon it'll be a crime to kill an ant.
 
I believe it's wrong to kill anything wantonly without good reason. Killing an ant simply because you want to kill it isn't a good reason.
 
Brenden_E said:
Eating meat is in no way barbaric. That's like saying taking a ppis is barbaric...

Just because a plant doesn't feel the way animals "feel" (IE it doesn't have a central nervous system), doesn't make it very different. Do you think the plant likes being eaten? Course not. But that's the way it is...

If we continue with this touchy-feely BS soon it'll be a crime to kill an ant.
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No you're not getting the point - forget about eating the animal (that's my personal current viewpoint which isn't related to the thread). The point is that killing an animal in a slaughterhouse is no less barbaric than a ritualistic killing in somebody's back yard (assuming that both are carried out hygienically). So to label the guy as barbaric for carrying out a cultural ritual would be harsh.
 
Hey Nick333, is it OK if I slaughter you in my backyard then?

Silly laws and standards shouldn't apply to me you see. My ancestors have been cannibals for ages, and its not like I will do it every weekend...

EDIT: So its OK for me to carry out my "cultural ritual", Highflyer_GP? :p
 
supersunbird said:
Hey Nick333, is it OK if I slaughter you in my backyard then?

Silly laws and standards shouldn't apply to me you see. My ancestors have been cannibals for ages, and its not like I will do it every weekend...

EDIT: So its OK for me to carry out my "cultural ritual", Highflyer_GP? :p
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Unless you really believe in a world of black and white with no grey areas you don't need me to show you how your argument falls flat.

The fact is we do have laws and the democratically elected government of this country can pass laws to allow or disallow the slaughter of animals as they see fit. If its illegal, its illegal.
My point is and was that this thread was started by a troll for the sake of portraying black people as barbarians because they slaughter animals at home as part of their culture.
Highflyer has made the point already, its hypocritical to accuse those who do not feel the need to hide from the blood and guts aspect of being a meat eating species of being savages because we are squeamish.
 
lol, this government isnt fit to govern, so who cares if somethign is illegal, they have no moral authority anyway.

So you tellling me cannibalism isnt OK? OOOOOPS!!! and bummer :(
 
supersunbird said:
Hey Nick333, is it OK if I slaughter you in my backyard then?

Silly laws and standards shouldn't apply to me you see. My ancestors have been cannibals for ages, and its not like I will do it every weekend...

EDIT: So its OK for me to carry out my "cultural ritual", Highflyer_GP? :p
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Well cannibalism is illegal (in almost any country, not just this one). Slaughtering an animal for food isn't, so why should it be for cultural purposes (considering off course that it's handled in the same manner as a slaughterhouse)?
 
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supersunbird said:
lol, this government isnt fit to govern, so who cares if somethign is illegal, they have no moral authority anyway.

So you tellling me cannibalism isnt OK? OOOOOPS!!! and bummer :(
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Well OK. But only if you promise to only eat people who have died of natural causes. And maybe those who have opted for euthanasia.
 
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