Koeberg unit 2 down

Sneeky said:
Was speaking to an estate agent a month or so ago.
The land between the Cape St Francis lighthouse and Oyster bay was up for sale. Apparently 1 owner and it is prime and pristine coastline.
Now it makes sense with Homer next door the value will plummet.
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Maybe, prices in St Francis Bay have just been going up and up though and this has been common knowledge for a while, heard about Eskom employees quietly buying up properties etc. We have terrible blackouts there around Christmas time so hopefully this'll at least solve that, at least we'll have power before we start to glow. :D
 
Trafeye said:
Lowest bid = cheapest technologies/equipment/materials/manpower/etc that meets the specs. Let's hope the 80% price weight doesn't count when it comes to buidling and operating nuclear power stations. I wouldn't want to live near a thing like this that was build by the cheapest contractor.
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Price isn't the only deciding factor when awarding any engineering contract.
 
Don't you wish you were in China. They are building 50 nuclear reactors over the next 20 years. The Chinese don't seem to have the trouble in developing their economy at breakneck speed. I wonder why South Africa is struggling so badly?
 
IamCanadian said:
Don't you wish you were in China. They are building 50 nuclear reactors over the next 20 years. The Chinese don't seem to have the trouble in developing their economy at breakneck speed. I wonder why South Africa is struggling so badly?
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Eh, no thanks
 
IamCanadian said:
Don't you wish you were in China. They are building 50 nuclear reactors over the next 20 years. The Chinese don't seem to have the trouble in developing their economy at breakneck speed. I wonder why South Africa is struggling so badly?
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Apparently China are opening a power station a week! :cool:
 
IamCanadian said:
Don't you wish you were in China. They are building 50 nuclear reactors over the next 20 years. The Chinese don't seem to have the trouble in developing their economy at breakneck speed. I wonder why South Africa is struggling so badly?
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China has a GDP growth rate of 10.5% compared to SA's 4.5%.

With a rate of only 2.8% one wonders, why is Canada having problems sustaining theirs? Don't you wish you were in China, china. ;)
 
bwana said:
China has a GDP growth rate of 10.5% compared to SA's 4.5%.

With a rate of only 2.8% one wonders, why is Canada having problems sustaining theirs? Don't you wish you were in China, china. ;)
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He is truly South African now :cool: or :o depending on which way you look at it :D
 
bwana said:
China has a GDP growth rate of 10.5% compared to SA's 4.5%.

With a rate of only 2.8% one wonders, why is Canada having problems sustaining theirs? Don't you wish you were in China, china. ;)
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Seriously though, the region I live in, Alberta, has a growth rate of about 7%. Must be all that oil the Americans want. Was down in Montana last weekend and saw SUV's as far as the eye could see.

It's no wonder that America is planning to annex Canada as another state.:D
 
Syndyre said:
Apparently China are opening a power station a week! :cool:
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And that affect us here in SA, cos all the Electical power equipment manufacturer have set base in China. The normal 20MVA transformer that use to take 18 months to deliver from Europe is now taking upto 3.5 years to deliver as the manufacturers cater for China and India first and all of us get the leftovers( I mean all even the first world countries).

Brazil has got on to the act because of its vast resources of metal products like steel and aluminium they have attracted some of the manufacturers there.
Maybe we shouldn't have sold Iscor and privatised Alusaf in order to get those people here ourselves.
 
stepper said:
And that affect us here in SA, cos all the Electical power equipment manufacturer have set base in China. The normal 20MVA transformer that use to take 18 months to deliver from Europe is now taking upto 3.5 years to deliver as the manufacturers cater for China and India first and all of us get the leftovers( I mean all even the first world countries).

Brazil has got on to the act because of its vast resources of metal products like steel and aluminium they have attracted some of the manufacturers there.
Maybe we shouldn't have sold Iscor and privatised Alusaf in order to get those people here ourselves.
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Maybe not but if Eskom had planned properly in advance the longer waiting period wouldn't be such an issue? How much demand is there in India though? Their power grid seems worse than ours!
 
Jozi101 said:
Price isn't the only deciding factor when awarding any engineering contract.
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That's what the 80% in my comment refers to ... 80% price, 10% equity, 10% quality/performance/functionality. This split can differ depending on sector/industry/company - put price almost always is the far bigger portion.
 
Syndyre said:
Maybe not but if Eskom had planned properly in advance the longer waiting period wouldn't be such an issue? How much demand is there in India though? Their power grid seems worse than ours!
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Remember some generation units were mothballed, nobody expected the growth that the country is experiencing.
Planning is not based on a hunch, 'visible' development or need of power must shown before throwing around money thinking something will blowup.

I'm not a businessman but I know that you can't invest money in something you are not sure if it will give you good returns. Sure there are risks but not with the national budget. I'm sure by now Eskom will go deep in the procument process for these equipments provided that generation can keep up since the growth is now visible.
 
stepper said:
Remember some generation units were mothballed, nobody expected the growth that the country is experiencing.
Planning is not based on a hunch, 'visible' development or need of power must shown before throwing around money thinking something will blowup.

I'm not a businessman but I know that you can't invest money in something you are not sure if it will give you good returns. Sure there are risks but not with the national budget. I'm sure by now Eskom will go deep in the procument process for these equipments provided that generation can keep up since the growth is now visible.
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Fair enough but it doesn't seem to have come as a shock to anyone else except Eskom. :rolleyes: Combine massive electrification of townships etc. with economic growth and its not exactly a big surprise that electricity demand went up.
 
Syndyre said:
Fair enough but it doesn't seem to have come as a shock to anyone else except Eskom. :rolleyes: Combine massive electrification of townships etc. with economic growth and its not exactly a big surprise that electricity demand went up.
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Eish :eek:
 
S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 ... Koeberg Calamity ... available soon. :D

I now know why a town nearby was named after Atlantis ... a city that went missing :D
 
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