PostmanPot
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LCD and Plasma Bargains and Discussions thread
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SaiyanZ
Executive Member
Just wondering why the UA55ES6200 costs R6k more than the UA55ES6030. i.e. R19k vs R13k
Both are 3D, 1080p, LED, 55".
The only differences on the UA55ES6200 are:
- Smart TV
- an extra HDMI port
- two extra USB ports
- CMR of 400Hz vs 200Hz
- Slim design
http://www.samsung.com/africa_en/co...mpare?prda=UA55EH6030RXXA&prdb=UA55ES6200RXXA
None of the above is essential or will even be missed when using the TV, especially for R6k more. Wondering if I'm missing anything since I'm set on the UA55ES6030.
Both are 3D, 1080p, LED, 55".
The only differences on the UA55ES6200 are:
- Smart TV
- an extra HDMI port
- two extra USB ports
- CMR of 400Hz vs 200Hz
- Slim design
http://www.samsung.com/africa_en/co...mpare?prda=UA55EH6030RXXA&prdb=UA55ES6200RXXA
None of the above is essential or will even be missed when using the TV, especially for R6k more. Wondering if I'm missing anything since I'm set on the UA55ES6030.
Roman4604
Executive Member
Its plain for all to see who the child is in this thread, constantly avoiding that your argument is based on an unverified assumption of excessive average viewing distance. Without this your whole 'no need for better fidelity than HDR' argument falls flat.
PS: So change your enclosure, if you have the means to afford an E550 or better, you should be able to squeeze in some carpentry to alter your enclosure.
Roman4604
Executive Member
Not as far as I understand, think you've got the lot. If the added features & different form factor are not important, then no reason not to go for the 55EH6030.
PostmanPot
Honorary Master
'No need for better fidelity than HDR' isn't my argument. I understand all individuals' viewing scenarios, and content, and the benefits of PQ and fidelity. I never once said people who, for example in your 51" HDR vs FHD plasma example, who have the budget for FHD, should settle for lesser, or that they are "uniformed suckers for spending extra on them." Your words based on misconstrueing many explanations. Where we differ is that you ignore the viewing distance/screen size conundrum which by fact affects most people, where at further distances, HD/FHD is indistinguishable. Your sentiments would lead those on a lower budget or who sit further away to a lesser experience than with a larger HDR screen, because they were suckered in by the FHD sticker on a smaller screen, which would likely happen to offer lesser PQ, besides a worse experience from a distance.
Your snobbery is shown in your ignoring of them, or people who just want a good HD screen for a cheap price.
No. I sit far too.
PS: I won't have a snob tell me what to do.
Messugga
Honorary Master
Personally, I find it pretty easy to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on a 40" set at between 3m and 4m. Whether the difference is worth it is a matter of opinion. I prefer the higher resolution and bought a TV that can handle it. My next, larger TV will also be FHD and to me it would be worth the extra expense.
People have been having this argument for ages and it's getting somewhat old now. What matters is whether something offers you value. What qualifies as good value is subjective as hell. You can't go telling someone else that they're wrong because their goalposts are in a different position to your own.
People have been having this argument for ages and it's getting somewhat old now. What matters is whether something offers you value. What qualifies as good value is subjective as hell. You can't go telling someone else that they're wrong because their goalposts are in a different position to your own.
PostmanPot
Honorary Master
I concur.
Roman4604
Executive Member
Yes it is, stop trying to worm your way out of this. Let me take you back to the beginning to recap the initial debate ...
How else should one interpret the substance of your responses other than; the high fidelity I was experiencing on my 1080p 51" plasma is not valid for most since you somehow know they sit further back then me, at a distance beyond which 1080p fidelity is perceivable. Thus by inference, its wiser to purchase the 51" HDR (1024x768) plasma rather then getting suckered into buying the 1080p 'gimmick' plasma.
In the same vein neither should owners of 1080p (plasma) TVs put up with your drivel about the greater value proposition of HDR plasmas.PS: I won't have a snob tell me what to do.
PostmanPot
Honorary Master
No it isn't. 1080p being a gimmick for many people (based purely on viewing distance as correlated with other forumites) does not equal "no need for better fidelity than HDR." Your words.
That's not what I inferred at all. Your words. What is inferred is, 1) Most people cannot tell a difference between HDR/FHD after a relatively common distance and, 2) Most people in my experience happen to sit at these distances and probably wouldn't be able to tell. Simple as that. I was never negative about their purchases or underestimating their abilities or wanting to prevent them from buying the best. Your words.
I did not infer anything about their purchases being wise or not. Your words. But when taking into account viewing distance, content, budget etc. I am open to the possibility that it could be wiser for some individuals, based on their subjective needs. Others would have them hellbent on it not being possible, by being ignorant to their subjective needs.
At half the price, and if sitting far away, HDR plasma could indeed offer better value. I am open to the idea.
Roman4604
Executive Member
More backpedaling, as I've illustrated you didn't start this of with 'if', you said most do. Had you started with 'if' 3 pages of this thread wouldn't have needed to be wasted with this nonsense.
This is why you aren't being helped. My suggestion would also have been for you to look at plasma. Very happy with mine.
So this is the 'LCD and Plasma Bargains and discussions but if you don't want a Plasma then sorry for you thread'?
I have looked at many plasmas but I just don't like them. They strain my eyes and the picture is often not completely clear which is what I like. It's a personal preference.
Thestealth
Expert Member
Guys, riddle me this:
We currently have a FHD Panasonic Plasma (50"). My problem is that it interferes with my dstv decoders remote (PBR - discussed in another thread). We are currently using HD PVR on the main tv (plasma) but we're thinking about getting a new tv (plasma or LCD/LED). Would prefer a smart tv but not hung up on 3D at all. Any suggestions on a current (bargain) that'll suffice without interfering with the PVR remote? TV is only used for watching tv and movies from mede8er, no direct sunlight on the tv throughout the day. Any suggestions?
We currently have a FHD Panasonic Plasma (50"). My problem is that it interferes with my dstv decoders remote (PBR - discussed in another thread). We are currently using HD PVR on the main tv (plasma) but we're thinking about getting a new tv (plasma or LCD/LED). Would prefer a smart tv but not hung up on 3D at all. Any suggestions on a current (bargain) that'll suffice without interfering with the PVR remote? TV is only used for watching tv and movies from mede8er, no direct sunlight on the tv throughout the day. Any suggestions?
PostmanPot
Honorary Master
Not back pedalling. It's very obvious it's an if because of the subjective nature. And I still do believe most tend to sit further than optimum distance for their screen size, based on my experience. If I was helping someone I'd never just assume they sit far, I'd ask - you know this...
Perhaps change your options to display 40 posts per page. Only one page wasted here due to your lack of understanding.
PostmanPot
Honorary Master
When have they strained your eyes, and where have you tested? Which models?
At what distance will you be sitting, and what will you be using the TV for?
I'm perfectly happy gaming on 50Hz LCD, if you sit far, size becomes important to ensure a good experience.
PostmanPot
Honorary Master
Consider the Samsung PS51E550 at about R8,999. 51", FHD, 3D, SMART. Superior PQ to ES6200.
+1, an excellent set and because it's full hd you won't be staring at massive pixels all day...