Lightroom alternatives?


Welcome to Canva, Affinity!​

Since launching Canva in 2013, we’ve been on a mission to empower the whole world to design. As visual communication becomes table stakes in workplaces across the globe, we’re proud to now be empowering more than 175 million people to achieve their goals – but as we often say, with a mission this big, we’re still just 1% of the way there.

Today, we’re incredibly excited to welcome Affinity to the Canva team as we set our sights on empowering every kind of designer. Trusted by more than three million creative professionals across the globe, Affinity’s award-winning suite of professional design software has become a sought-after solution for everything from photo editing to complex graphic and vector design. Together, we’re setting our sights on empowering every kind of team and organization to achieve their goals.

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What’s next​

We couldn’t be more excited about the possibilities ahead as we welcome Affinity to Canva. Based in the United Kingdom, they join a number of other European companies who have become part of Canva, including Flourish, Kaleido, SmartMockups, Pexels, Pixabay and SlidesCarnival. They bring with them a 90-person team who we’re thrilled to have joining Canva.

You can expect to hear more from us about our plans to unlock the power of Affinity’s technology within Canva over time. Watch this space!
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This is either good or bad news, I'm very active in that space. I can only hope that they don't change the sales model.

Though it would be nice to see them incorporate their other products, though it will without a doubt require a subscription.
 
There's also a 30% off Spring Sale at the moment. I've ditched Photos but I needed a DTP app so I bit the R999 bullet and bought Publisher.
 
Fulcrum29 said:



This is either good or bad news, I'm very active in that space. I can only hope that they don't change the sales model.

Though it would be nice to see them incorporate their other products, though it will without a doubt require a subscription.
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Most definitely going to change to a monthly , never to own , model, according to me.
 
RedViking said:
Most definitely going to change to a monthly , never to own , model, according to me.
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I don't think they will change the current model anytime soon. Canva is well known in the LTD space. What they will do is incorporate their other products as modules under a subscription plan, in time.

V3, might also have a subscription model which would mean that a perpetual license will come at a higher cost. Some Canva products do have a gratis entry plan.

Who knows. People like this product because it is an Adobe alternative which is consumer-orientated. Why would Canva wish to change that? Canva has become a reputable brand, and it could be their time to change to a services model.

For those who own V1, well, that is not going away, neither is the current V2.
 
bwana said:
Up until now I've been using Aperture but since I've been forced to upgrade my laptop that's no longer an option.
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At the end of the day I got Adobe's photographers bundle for Photoshop because Affinity Photo wasn't cutting it... then someone gave me an older Macbook Pro 13 which runs Aperture so I've been using that for much of my raw work.
 
OT:

Adobe is getting burned on their new terms, so much so that they are providing clarity:

blog.adobe.com

A clarification on Adobe Terms of Use | Adobe Blog

What the recent updates to our Terms of Use mean for you.
blog.adobe.com

A clarification on Adobe Terms of Use​


We recently made an update to our Terms of Use with the goal of providing more clarity on a few specific areas and pushed a routine re-acceptance of those terms to Adobe Creative Cloud and Document Cloud customers. We have received a number of questions resulting from this update and want to provide some clarity.

We remain committed to transparency, protecting the rights of creators and enabling our customers to do their best work.

What is different in the Terms of Use​

The focus of this update was to be clearer about the improvements to our moderation processes that we have in place. Given the explosion of Generative AI and our commitment to responsible innovation, we have added more human moderation to our content submissions review processes.

Continued
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The interesting part though is this:

Adobe’s continued commitments​

Our commitments to our customers have not changed.
  • Adobe does not train Firefly Gen AI models on customer content. Firefly generative AI models are trained on a dataset of licensed content, such as Adobe Stock, and public domain content where copyright has expired. Read more here: https://helpx.adobe.com/firefly/faq.html#training-data
  • Adobe will never assume ownership of a customer's work. Adobe hosts content to enable customers to use our applications and services. Customers own their content and Adobe does not assume any ownership of customer work.
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Yet in their own terms:

www.adobe.com

Legal

Adobe Legal Terms
www.adobe.com www.adobe.com

4. Your Content.

4.1 Content. “Content” means any text, information, communication, or material, such as audio files, video files, electronic documents, or images, that you upload, import into, embed for use by, or create using the Services and Software. We reserve the right (but do not have the obligation) to remove Content or restrict access to Content, Services, and Software if any of your Content is found to be in violation of the Terms. We do not review all Content uploaded to the Services and Software, but we may use available technologies, vendors, or processes, including manual review, to screen for certain types of illegal content (for example, child sexual abuse material) or other abusive content or behavior (for example, patterns of activity that indicate spam or phishing, or keywords that indicate adult content has been posted outside of the adult wall). You may learn more about our content moderation policies and practices, including how we moderate content, at our Transparency Center.

4.2 Licenses to Your Content. Solely for the purposes of operating or improving the Services and Software, you grant us a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free sublicensable, license, to use, reproduce, publicly display, distribute, modify, create derivative works based on, publicly perform, and translate the Content. For example, we may sublicense our right to the Content to our service providers or to other users to allow the Services and Software to operate as intended, such as enabling you to share photos with others. Separately, section 4.6 (Feedback) below covers any Feedback that you provide to us.

4.3 Ownership. As between you and Adobe, you (as a Business User or a Personal User, as applicable) retain all rights and ownership of your Content (or where applicable, you must ensure that you or the Business (as applicable) have a valid license to the Content). We do not claim any ownership rights to your Content.
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Though you have ownership, anything you use within Adobe is sublicensed to them. They give an example to give context to the user, but other uses would be applicable too.

I saw this being discussed in places, had a look, and have to agree, it is vague.

4.6 (Feedback) is a "Please Call Me" clause:

4.6 Feedback. You may choose to provide us with feedback regarding the Services and Software, including in the form of ideas, suggestions, proposals, examples involving your Content, ("Feedback"). In such event, you agree that we are free to use the Feedback for our business purposes, including by incorporation into the Services and Software without any payment or attribution or other obligation to you.
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Though that is understandable. I recently talked about it in another thread in concern about sharing.

They make it clear, even where you delete your content, they may retain backups (which is /cough, sublicensed to them). There are more things I can pick on, but this is concerning. In particular when you work with another owner's content within Adobe which you will then sublicense. From a commercial perspective, not cool Adobe.

Anyhow,

https://twitter.com/x/status/1799108211053830323

;)
 
Here is a rant in response to Adobe's clarification of their EULA. Goes into such things as breaching of NDAs.

 
bwana said:
I wish I liked Affinity more than I do.
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I hope to see improvements. On their own discussion board, they don't take their own users' advice. This might change with Canva as its new owner. Version 2.5 has now dropped. I believe there is a possibility that they will launch v3 in 2025. Time will determine whether they will remain committed to their perpetual licensing or whether they will move to online services, which could imply a subscription service.

Everything now has AI, and necessitates computing power in the "cloud", making it inevitable.

They need to evolve their essentials. Adobe simply does the product roots better than them.
 
Affinity now has a 6 month trial

Get a six-month free trial of our award-winning photo editing, page layout, graphic design and illustration software – even if you’ve tried it before!​

We know it’s daunting to switch your creative software, so we want to give you plenty of time to test out Affinity before you commit. And for those of you who may have tried it before but didn’t buy for whatever reason, we’ve reset all trials so you can give it another go for a longer period of time.

No obligation to buy, no payment details required to sign up.
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News from here: https://gamefromscratch.com/affinity-offer-all-products-free-for-6-months/
 
OT, but I noticed that Canva, who acquired Serif, has just made a significant change to their pricing structure. They have made such changes previously, but this is now an annual thing of theirs. The increases aren't slight.

If there is ever an Affinity v3, yeah...
 
PSN said:
I recently came across a very cool culling application. I would like to know if anything has been used in its workflow.
www.narrative.so/select
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I've played around with it, they've removed a few features from the free tier but still decent.
More something for wedding photographers, great for that though, especially the trigger happy guys.
 
PSN said:
I recently came across a very cool culling application. I would like to know if anything has been used in its workflow.
www.narrative.so/select
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Looks like more of a Photo Mechanic replacement, and just as expensive. I was hoping to find an alternative to that app as well now that they've become subscription based.
 
Bernoldus Niemand said:
apps.apple.com

Nitro Photo

Introducing Nitro, the brand new photo editor and manager from the developer of RAW Power. Nitro is designed for every photographer and every photograph. Try Nitro for free for 7 days without any obligation. No subscription signup, no nonsense. Requires macOS Ventura or later. Easy, Powerful...
apps.apple.com
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Not awful.
 
What is the price change for the Creative Cloud Photography plan (20GB)?
Starting January 15, 2025, the price of the Adobe Creative Cloud Photography plan with 20GB storage will increase in all countries.

Annual billed monthly: Increase of US$5, from US$9.99 to US$14.99 per month
Annual prepaid: No increase, the price will remain US$119.88 per year
*The exact price will vary by currency and country.
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Plopped down R2097.60 for another year of Photoshop and Lightroom. Hope 2025 will be the year someone catches up. :eek:
 
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