Linux grows in recession

werner said:
i can vouchf or this. having taken over our IT department a few months ago I was asked to consolidate a lot of machines and to basically get it smaller and more manageable.

so far two ipcop machines have been put in place, for proxy+web filtering+vpn (so that is three other boxes in the bin) and freenas has found a home with us also, as a storage server and internal ftp, using ghost4linux to back up important users machines when necessary.

we are a ms OEM, action pack subscriber and a microsoft gold partner. we do not have to pay for ms licensing, so the cost isnt even an issue.

next will be the exchange server, probably into the nearest bin, as well as the external customer facing web and ftp machine. I've got a few workstations using various builds of linux to see if it is feasible to roll it out to select users instead of our current xp.

ek voel niks.
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ClarkConnect :P Tis orsm.

Zimbra for exchange.
 
ngwenyas said:
guys,im gettin worried now.im totally lost..i guess been microsoft certified was a total waste of money and time.I have little knowledge on this linux O.S and its frustrating.all i know is getting modems connected to this O.S. Help please,my org won't even think of budging from Windows,im falling behind!:eek:
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The biggest mistake windows geeks make is thinking windows is the be all and end all.
Almost without fail, every Linux user can use windows. The opposite is seldom true.

Get a machine and load Linux on it. "Certification", by itself, is not worth the paper it is printed on - people care more about what you can prove to have done, not what some paper says. This is all the more true for "certifications" issued by the company that makes money out of people using their products.
 
For filtering untangle is really awesome, as it goes up to layer 7 filtering, but of coarse it needs a bit of a faster machine and more memory, but you have much more control over the filtering as well as logging each user's traffic usage. Blocks p2p out of the box ect, even on the free version.
 
ngwenyas said:
guys,im gettin worried now.im totally lost..i guess been microsoft certified was a total waste of money and time.I have little knowledge on this linux O.S and its frustrating.all i know is getting modems connected to this O.S. Help please,my org won't even think of budging from Windows,im falling behind!:eek:
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Realistically, Linux is not that hard to learn. Put together a small machine (you could even use old parts lying around, most Linux distros will run fine on an older machine). You'll quickly figure it out.

I would recommend you start with Ubuntu as it has a large community with plenty of support and is really easy to learn. A lot of the command line functionality has GUI applications that take care of it for you until you learn more about it.
 
How did SA government skip over implementing Ubuntu over Suse ?
What would be a clearer message send by the government if they supported their own
 
ipcop can do l7 filtering, and clarkconnect grumble for money when you want more than 10 mailboxes. i did stumble across untangle a few days ago, so know of it, but havent looked into it yet.
 
Drake2007 said:
adobe reader? opengl? As far as I know it does both. Maybe your concern is DirectX.
Oh and my +70 year old Mom is using SuSE no problem.
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You are correct It does do Opengl, unfortunately OGL has fallen way behind directx as of late, and as a result most of the game developers have moved over to direct x- limiting the ability to play games on other platforms- so the point I was making was that the Khronos group need to speed up their development and bring out something that is a viable alternative to game developers.

With Adobe, Im talking about the more high end packages- namely photoshop, premier etc
 
werner said:
ek voel niks.
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ek ook nie :p

I knew this guy that said if they had to provide Linux solutions to their clients they would make less money as there would be less support calls, so they just sell them MS. Internally however they are mostly a Linux shop.


Moederloos said:
Almost without fail, every Linux user can use windows. The opposite is seldom true.
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Very true.


DblD said:
How did SA government skip over implementing Ubuntu over Suse ?
What would be a clearer message send by the government if they supported their own
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How is Ubuntu South African? The parent company is registered in the Isle of Man & operates out of London. The developers of the distro are from across the world. Don't let emotions cloud a critical decision. If it was me I would also be looking at Suse or Red Hat in a enterprise type environment, not Ubuntu.
 
I'm glad.

yay for Linux. Finally people will start seeing Linux as where we should have been ages ago. Why should one company buy up rights to pieces of code and then be the sole proprietor? The point of Linux is, open source, it belongs to everyone.
 
porchrat said:
There are Linux users out there doing that too. Sad though as it does give the rest of the Linux users a bad name.
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I'm typing this on a win7 box while pink floyd's blasting from the mandriva box in the corner and the Ubuntu server happily dishing up files to both...

There's even a Vista laptop connected to the network (but we try to keep it isolated as much as possible :D)
 
Gru said:
I'm typing this on a win7 box while pink floyd's blasting from the mandriva box in the corner and the Ubuntu server happily dishing up files to both...

There's even a Vista laptop connected to the network (but we try to keep it isolated as much as possible :D)
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Don't even get me started on Vista. The Vista machine crashes/bluescreens while it is idling...IDLING!!

Hopefully Win7 is better (I haven't tried the beta), I would hate to think that all those computer users over the age of 70, and all the other users that won't migrate to Linux, have nothing but Vista or Vista2.0 to upgrade to. Would be a boon for the desktop support business though.
 
porchrat said:
Don't even get me started on Vista. The Vista machine crashes/bluescreens while it is idling...IDLING!!
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That would be a hardware fault, not the OS

Hopefully Win7 is better (I haven't tried the beta), I would hate to think that all those computer users over the age of 70, and all the other users that won't migrate to Linux, have nothing but Vista or Vista2.0 to upgrade to. Would be a boon for the desktop support business though.
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Win7 is faster. What actually is the point in migrating when Vista is just easier for most
people to use especially when you come across windows centric hardware.

imo both OS's fill their particular niche and there is room for both of them.
 
Drake2007 said:
That would be a hardware fault, not the OS
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Not really, as Vista never truly idles, it does that crazy indexing thing which I haven't turned off. Apologies for the confusion.

Also Vista started off with a 'hardware fault' that caused it to randomly reset the network connection settings to defaults. Strangely enough this hardware fault resolved itself after a Vista update, Microsoft is truly amazing, it can solve hardware faults by updating Vista -oh wait...

Win7 is faster. What actually is the point in migrating when Vista is just easier for most
people to use especially when you come across windows centric hardware.

imo both OS's fill their particular niche and there is room for both of them.
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Sorry, but I have had too many issues with Vista (on multiple machines - obviously all hardware faults :rolleyes:) to actually take that seriously. Vista is horrific, and it really is luck-of-the-draw whether or not it is going to run on your machine without issues. I'm glad that it runs without a problem on your machine(s), but not everyone is so lucky.

I mean, you expect that there will be initial problems when running Linux, some problems are solvable, others are not, but that is the way Linux is. Windows however is supposed to be aimed at both the developer and the sort of person who wants to switch their machine on and have it just 'work', kind of like a toaster. One of my machines dual-boots Ubuntu and Vista and I had fewer issues installing and setting up Ubuntu than I did setting up Vista. Not exactly the 'toaster' of operating system.

From what I have read Win7 is looking good though and I'm looking forward to the day when I can get it and dump Vista like the piece of refuse that it is.
 
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chubster said:
The point of Linux is, open source, it belongs to everyone.
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That is not true. The Code belongs to the person who wrote it they just give it to you so you can expand it. The author is still the "owner".

Btw I'm also doing my MCSE (ne name MCITP) beginning April 10th. Bu I also do Linux used to have SuSe but moved to Ubuntu about 2 years ago.
 
I think there is place for both in the market. It's pretty much impossible for a company to completely switch over to Linux. The Windows Server editions can do things that Linux can't.

That said a few companies might replace a few of their servers with linux servers which is a good thing.
 
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