Linux VS Microsoft Certification (2013)

Windows has a command line and you can do a lot with a gui in a lot of linux situations. We should be comfortable with either and choose the best tools for the job (although admittedly in my case a bit of googling is usually involved when it comes to all but the simplest command line stuff.)
 
ponder said:
Most people only know point & click, take the gui away and they are fscked. I still reckon I would rather hire a unix/linux person in a mixed environment as the MS part is easy to them, put a MS monkey in front of a linux/unix box and they are fooked.
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The same can be said when you put a Linux monkey in front of a Windows 2008 Server Core box and they are fooked as well. :)
 
LPI

LPI1/2/3 - find a Pearson-Vue testing center. Start learning a programming language.
 
kingrob said:
The same can be said when you put a Linux monkey in front of a Windows 2008 Server Core box and they are fooked as well. :)
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No really accurate. Its pretty easy to work stuff out in windows because of the solid grounding in theory you have working with linux. This is pretty much not true. Every single Linux oke I know, knows how to manage a Windows server. They just generally refuse to. Most linux guys went through the whole MS route before they entered linux as well. So they are familiar with the environments.

The same is certainly not true in reverse.
 
ghoti said:
No really accurate. Its pretty easy to work stuff out in windows because of the solid grounding in theory you have working with linux. This is pretty much not true. Every single Linux oke I know, knows how to manage a Windows server. They just generally refuse to. Most linux guys went through the whole MS route before they entered linux as well. So they are familiar with the environments.

The same is certainly not true in reverse.
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Do they really?

Have you installed and configured a Core server before?

I'm actually willing to bet money that any linux guy would admit defeat when trying to configure a Windows 2008 Core server.
 
kingrob said:
Do they really?

Have you installed and configured a Core server before?

I'm actually willing to bet money that any linux guy would admit defeat when trying to configure a Windows 2008 Core server.
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+1 and then you haven't even started with Powershell.
 
kingrob said:
Do they really?

Have you installed and configured a Core server before?

I'm actually willing to bet money that any linux guy would admit defeat when trying to configure a Windows 2008 Core server.
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This is mostly true but I shall never admit defeat :twisted: My expertise are mostly in the Linux & BSD world but I have done admin on Microsoft servers since the NT4 days.

The windows commands do not make much sense. I'll get a Core server going after much research if I REALLY have to but it all seems a little pointless while there is an option to go clickity. click. done.

PS: Windows servers are configured with PowerShell commands these days. The GUI's just string the commands together. Fortunately the M$ stuff is built with the lowest common denominator in mind so I do not think anyone will be forced to learn it :D

EDIT: Oh and about the certification, I would suggest Linux first then Microsoft. Definitely both as most large companies run some sort of *nix and Windows.
 
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kingrob said:
Do they really?

Have you installed and configured a Core server before?

I'm actually willing to bet money that any linux guy would admit defeat when trying to configure a Windows 2008 Core server.
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Not really, because some of the configs will open a window to still point and click. Having said that it isnt easy to admin a core installation, I am a linux guy but I also have a MCITP so I know :p
 
TheGuy said:
+1 and then you haven't even started with Powershell.
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You realise that server core doesnt run off the native "cmd shell" in windows with a gui but slightly more basic version of power shell?
I like powershell though, I was really happy as linux guy when they introduced it as its scripting is way more powerful than that horrible batch scripting.
 
Rocket-Boy said:
Not really, because some of the configs will open a window to still point and click. Having said that it isnt easy to admin a core installation, I am a linux guy but I also have a MCITP so I know :p
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Congrats!

Did you also have to do the 2008 R2 exams? And did you do the EA exams?

*So how many Linux certifications do you have?
 
Yeah 2008 R2 internationals, not as easy as some people make it out to be!
I only have linux+ but then I also used to lecture linux plus and I admin 100+ linux servers so Im pretty clued up on both side.
There are benefits to both linux and windows server but they have specific roles that neither can beat.
 
Rocket-Boy said:
Yeah 2008 R2 internationals, not as easy as some people make it out to be!
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So true hence why I will use my June university holidays to really study for my MCITP:EA exams would like to write an exam a week or finish MCITP:EA before July 2013.

Kingrob as far as i know 2008 R2 exams are

70-659: TS: Windows Server 2008 R2, Server Virtualization
70-669: TS: Windows Server 2008 R2, Desktop Virtualization
70-693: Pro: Windows Server 2008 R2, Virtualization Administrator
 
I have a Linux qualification, and it has helped me with a few opportunities. It depends on how qualifed you want to get. If you look at the LPI courses, having LPI level 1 will show that you have some linux knowledge, but won't prove much to people looking for a hardcore sysadmin. Also, I would suggest if you arent interested in Linux, you should not do the certification. I have known people that just did the certs because they wanted a high paying salary. They lacked the passion and interest for Linux, and failed. LPI level 1 or Linux+ is a nice cert to have to show you at least know your way around the OS,
 
reneg8or said:
Oh, nice, we have all the geeks, gurus and wizards around! Please, guys, with Windows 8 not being windows any longer and with Linux ignoring the needs of its users, who can advise me best on this issue?

Have a look at http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=129302&sid=816b5bc404767c3d28bddf0dc0daa1f4 and see how you can best advise me to proceed. Thanks, in anticipation! :D
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You make some very good points in there sir. I was utterly disgusted when I attempted to mount a friend's Galaxy S3 on my mint machine as mass storage, only to find that the phone doesn't have a mass storage module, and only relies on MTP in order to connect to a computer.

This was, for me, a complete deal breaker. Especially since it is an Android device. I am a big fan of android, but I believe that mobile phone manufacturers can do so much more for the open source community.

Sadly, when many people think of linux, all they can remember is a command line, which scares them off, while the truth is that Linux has come so far in being user friendly, especially with distros like Mint.

In regards to cloud computing, I think it is a good and a bad thing. Many devices are being sold with free dropbox accounts, but many of us do not have the network capability of actually using it effectively.

The honest, and sad truth is, if you want these features, you will need to create them. That;s where the plus side in open source comes in. If you can;t find it, create it. This of course, is time consuming, and most of us start out with it, and eventually just give up, as you have many things in your life that cannot just be put on hold.

I would like to post more on this, but for now, i'll leave it at that.
 
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