Local Apple iMac and MacBook pricing uncertain

[ToxicBunny]

They'll use the UK price thing again though..

But still that makes the top of the line model over R4000 too expensive.

Its complete BS.... they're killing their OWN market by pricing themselves so damn high.

 

[Drunkard #1]

/Points and laughs at the fanbois

HA HA

Enjoy your monopoly, suckers.

With normal PCs, we've got a market called capitalism. It's got price competition and free choice and reasonable service levels. You've got communism: No choice, bad service, and boy do you pay for the privilege.

 

[Ou grote]

They'll use the UK price thing again though..

But still that makes the top of the line model over R4000 too expensive.

Its complete BS.... they're killing their OWN market by pricing themselves so damn high.

Should allegedly be R15000 here, not R24000.
So that's R9000.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Thats if you use US based pricing...

If you use UK based pricng, then its R4000 too much.

 

[bwana]

Should allegedly be R15000 here, not R24000.
So that's R9000.

Why allegedly? When you look at US prices you need to remember they dont include any sales tax so, for the sake of fairness, you should either add 15% to their prices or remove 15% from ours.

Of course even after that there is a huge, undeniable, inexcusable disparity.

 

[Ou grote]

Why allegedly? When you look at US prices you need to remember they dont include any sales tax so, for the sake of fairness, you should either add 15% to their prices or remove 15% from ours.

Of course even after that there is a huge, undeniable disparity.

R 7.50 to the $ makes it R15 000.
Why I say allegedly.

Anyhow, mine has to last 2 more years before my next ripoff.

Paid R21000 for the last of the top of the range white iMacs 2 1/2 years ago, the $ was stronger and Apple reduced their prices since then.

So you can say it's at least R3000 too much.

 

[PeterCH]

/Points and laughs at the fanbois

HA HA

Enjoy your monopoly, suckers.

With normal PCs, we've got a market called capitalism. It's got price competition and free choice and reasonable service levels. You've got communism: No choice, bad service, and boy do you pay for the privilege.

In case you didn't get the memo, you'll also be paying more for Windows 7 than Americans, and this goes for other things too - TVs, CPUs, memory, SSDs, etc.

Compare NewEgg prices to our own, especially a shop like IC where Joe Public shops.

 

[d0b33]

/Points and laughs at the fanbois

HA HA

Enjoy your monopoly, suckers.

With normal PCs, we've got a market called capitalism. It's got price competition and free choice and reasonable service levels. You've got communism: No choice, bad service, and boy do you pay for the privilege.

Macs are free? were do I contribute to receive my free mac from comrade Jobs?

 

[zeely]

In case you didn't get the memo, you'll also be paying more for Windows 7 than Americans, and this goes for other things too - TVs, CPUs, memory, SSDs, etc.

Compare NewEgg prices to our own, especially a shop like IC where Joe Public shops.

Thats ok... Mac's cost more in SA than they do in america as well

 

[Ou grote]

Thats ok... Mac's cost more in SA than they do in america as well

And they cost more in america too

 

[Drunkard #1]

Macs are free? were do I contribute to receive my free mac from comrade Jobs?

Where do you get your info on communism? You've been misinformed.

In case you didn't get the memo, you'll also be paying more for Windows 7 than Americans, and this goes for other things too - TVs, CPUs, memory, SSDs, etc.

Compare NewEgg prices to our own, especially a shop like IC where Joe Public shops.

My PC at PCInt (exc VAT) = R 5464
My PC at NewEgg (exc tax) = R5355

2% more.

Your iMac at Digicape (exc VAT) = R 21 052
Your iMac at Apple Store US (exc tax) = 14 993

40% more.

Case.

 

[d0b33]

Where do you get your info on communism? You've been misinformed.

The Communist manifesto were else? no private property! workers unite!

 

[Drunkard #1]

The Communist manifesto were else? no private property! workers unite!

I hate to break it to you, but the phrase Wikipedia uses is:

Communism argues that only collective ownership of the means of production through a polity (though not necessarily a state) will assure the minimization of unequal or unjust outcomes and the maximization of benefits, and that therefore private property (which in communist theory is limited to capital) should be abolished.

It never completely abolishes private ownership of "personal items", and never suggests that "trade" be abolished. I'm afraid you'll still have to pay for your Mac, even in red China.

I found this quote from Wikipedia nicely summarises my comparison of Apple's attitude and communism.

As a political movement, communist regimes have historically been authoritarian and coercive governments concerned primarily with preserving their own power, with no substantive concern for the welfare of the proletariat.

In practice, communist regimes throughout history have been considered totalitarian and repressive.

 

[PeterCH]

My PC at PCInt (exc VAT) = R 5464
My PC at NewEgg (exc tax) = R5355

2% more.

Your iMac at Digicape (exc VAT) = R 21 052
Your iMac at Apple Store US (exc tax) = 14 993

40% more.

Case.

He's right. Because these parts are so 'commodified' they're more or less same price across the board.

However a Mac is still cheaper in the long run and if you can easily afford one and you only live once, have fun and use a real computer.

Drunkard you make some valid points, but some people here can afford Macs, if you can't - it's tough - get a better job or save up. Not everything is about pennies and you do end up saving more in the long run and the savings in terms of reduced stress levels are much better than struggling with rubbish PC hardware and worse software.

At the end it's up to you, ask anyone who uses luxury items, they're often worth it - even brand name clothes are better quality, have superior designs or sewing - you need to use them first to experience them.

Mac prices in SA are sadly boosted artificially for profiteering purposes. It's a fact of living in a 3rd world country like SA where the middle class has to subsidise the poor - just look at the huge prices of plasma TVs or high end brand name computers - we get ripped off here. But despite that, Macs are worth it - as both a Mac and PC user - if I had to pick one machine, I'd prefer it to run Mac OSX.

For me for example, I see no need in buying Windows 7 and upgrading my NEC and Panasonic machines. I won't get any additional functionality. I'll spend R2000 minimum each, have software which won't work, have to reinstall numerous things, trawl Nec.co.jp for drivers, waste a lot of time and for what --- a poor implementation of the Mac OSX dock and pretty OMG!!!!PONIES!!!!!!!!!!!1 menus? I run in Win95 classic mode. It makes no sense. Maybe 7 is cool for Vista users but for XP users it's a waste IMO. Mac OSX on the other hand is a different ballgame.