M1 Bridge Collapse - Grayston Drive

[TehStranger]

Parks Tau is not a CEO, he's a mayor, he has about as much knowledge of roadway surfaces and bridge construction as a gnat... The people who know what they're doing cleared the road to be opened at 13.30 but because another political ****tard left their car in the freeway they were unable to, once this was cleared they were going to open it at 14.00 until Lord Almighty decided he wanted a photo shoot.

That's an hour extra wasted because arrogant pricks got in the way, do you know how many people lost how many hours because of this? And they kept it closed because they think they're special... It's arrogant and disgraceful.

+plenty

 

[ToxicBunny]

I think you should go and read up on management, especially the section dealing with "responsibility" and "accountability". Yes the competent persons go ahead is required, but it is also the responsibility of the CEO's to ensure they are comfortable with implementing the recommended decision as they are ultimately accountable to the residents of the city.

In a normal company, yes. In terms of this fscktard called Park Tau, he just wanted a photo opportunity and in doing so wasted much needed time by keeping the road closed. I would actually like to see someone try to figure out just how much his arrogant behaviour cost this country.

 

[ScottulusMaximus]

I think you should go and read up on management, especially the section dealing with "responsibility" and "accountability". Yes the competent persons go ahead is required, but it is also the responsibility of the CEO's to ensure they are comfortable with implementing the recommended decision as they are ultimately accountable to the residents of the city.

You really think he is going to accept a shred of responsibility for this incident? It could be traced to his door that his brother gave him a backhand to get the contract and every bridge his brother has built has collapsed and killed a million people and he still wouldn't hold himself accountable

 

[Geoff.D]

In a normal company, yes. In terms of this fscktard called Park Tau, he just wanted a photo opportunity and in doing so wasted much needed time by keeping the road closed. I would actually like to see someone try to figure out just how much his arrogant behaviour cost this country.

There is no difference between a "normal company" and being mayor of a city. The management principles apply equally.

+plenty

Parks Tau is not a CEO, he's a mayor, he has about as much knowledge of roadway surfaces and bridge construction as a gnat... The people who know what they're doing cleared the road to be opened at 13.30 but because another political ****tard left their car in the freeway they were unable to, once this was cleared they were going to open it at 14.00 until Lord Almighty decided he wanted a photo shoot.

That's an hour extra wasted because arrogant pricks got in the way, do you know how many people lost how many hours because of this? And they kept it closed because they think they're special... It's arrogant and disgraceful.

There is no difference between a "normal company" and being mayor of a city. The management principles apply equally.

These posts illustrate just how poor the understanding is of Management and the role of senior persons in an organisation.

 

[ToxicBunny]

There is no difference between a "normal company" and being mayor of a city. The management principles apply equally.





There is no difference between a "normal company" and being mayor of a city. The management principles apply equally.

These posts illustrate just how poor the understanding is of Management and the role of senior persons in an organisation.

No there is no poor understanding at all from anyone except you in this regard.

We are under NO illusion that Parks would not accept responsibility at all. The principles of management may state one thing, but we know what would happen in reality.

 

[Geoff.D]

/Waits for people to criticise the above post... and slip in a cANCer somewhere.

Yup I knew this would happen, it was inevitable, but I feel very strongly about these things. If only another CEO in SA would also show his commitment to sound management principles, maybe the Company called " SA Inc" would be in much better shape than it is .....

 

[zululami]

Too many idiots let loose on the internet today... Too many 'expert' opinions issued without a shred of evidence or proper knowledge. You have no idea how ridiculous you sound! Some thought for the day - It's better to be quiet and be though a fool than to speak and remove all doubt... You do not have to have an opinion in everything.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Too many idiots let loose on the internet today... Too many 'expert' opinions issued without a shred of evidence or proper knowledge. You have no idea how ridiculous you sound! Some thought for the day - It's better to be quiet and be though a fool than speak and remove all doubt... You do not have to have an opinion in everything.

WTF are you on about now? mind pointing out the specific posts you're referring to?

 

[Electron1]

There is no difference between a "normal company" and being mayor of a city. The management principles apply equally.
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There is no difference between a "normal company" and being mayor of a city. The management principles apply equally.

These posts illustrate just how poor the understanding is of Management and the role of senior persons in an organisation.

Thanks for putting your point across twice. He could have given his agreement over the phone, There was no need to wait for him to arrive for a photo opportunity. If he really wanted to personally give his stamp of approval, he should have been on site at the earliest opportunity, and got his hands dirty helping.

Many years ago I was privileged to work under an Engineering Manager, who was the first senior management person on site after an accident, who personally took control of the rescue/recovery, never slept for 48 hours straight until he had done the best he could in the situation. That is taking responsibility and setting an example for others.

No respect for someone who waits till everything is done, then makes people wait for him to arrive to do his political grandstanding.

 

[Geoff.D]

No there is no poor understanding at all from anyone except you in this regard.

We are under NO illusion that Parks would not accept responsibility at all. The principles of management may state one thing, but we know what would happen in reality.

I would agree with you if the Mayor just sat in his office sipping cold water and done a press release. then all it is a cheap shot at getting publicity. But he did not, he got out of his chair and went to site, he got personally and emotionally involved. It is a welcome change hopefully for the better.

It is long overdue for everyone to applaud when things are done correctly. Instead it is all so often just seen as another opportunity to attack and break down .....

 

[icyrus]

I would agree with you if the Mayor just sat in his office sipping cold water and done a press release. then all it is a cheap shot at getting publicity. But he did not, he got out of his chair and went to site, he got personally and emotionally involved. It is a welcome change hopefully for the better.

It is long overdue for everyone to applaud when things are done correctly. Instead it is all so often just seen as another opportunity to attack and break down .....

How is delaying the opening of a major route that has caused untold traffic chaos doing something correctly? Are you suggesting that our mayor has any clue whether the road is fit to use or not?

 

[Geoff.D]

Thanks for putting your point across twice. He could have given his agreement over the phone, There was no need to wait for him to arrive for a photo opportunity. If he really wanted to personally give his stamp of approval, he should have been on site at the earliest opportunity, and got his hands dirty helping.

Many years ago I was privileged to work under an Engineering Manager, who was the first senior management person on site after an accident, who personally took control of the rescue/recovery, never slept for 48 hours straight until he had done the best he could in the situation. That is taking responsibility and setting an example for others.

No respect for someone who waits till everything is done, then makes people wait for him to arrive to do his political grandstanding.

Clearly you have NOT followed this event as closely as you think you have... otherwise you would be aware of the response of the Mayor and the leader of the Gauteng Province, their presence yesterday and late into the night on site

 

[ToxicBunny]

I would agree with you if the Mayor just sat in his office sipping cold water and done a press release. then all it is a cheap shot at getting publicity. But he did not, he got out of his chair and went to site, he got personally and emotionally involved. It is a welcome change hopefully for the better.

It is long overdue for everyone to applaud when things are done correctly. Instead it is all so often just seen as another opportunity to attack and break down .....

No, he did not get involved personally.

He was there for the news cameras and such last night, then fekked off, and not once did he get himself involved in the rescue/recovery or cleanup operations, and was in meetings today and held up reopening the road until he had finished a meeting.

This is not a change for the better, Parks Tau wasted peoples time so he could get a photo opportunity. It is arrogance of the highest order.

 

[Geoff.D]

How is delaying the opening of a major route that has caused untold traffic chaos doing something correctly? Are you suggesting that our mayor has any clue whether the road is fit to use or not?

The Mayor was showing his willingness to be held accountable for things that happen in his city .... It has nothing to do whether he is competent to rule on the detail, that is why he defers to the experts regarding the details.

The chaos was caused by the original event and did NOT arise because the re-opening of the road was delayed by an hour ......

 

[Electron1]

daniellgr are you the mayors' PRO?
Please enlighten us.
What contribution did the Mayor and the Leader of Gauteng province make to the Rescue and Recovery effort?
What did they do when they were on site, and how long did they spend there?

 

[ToxicBunny]

The Mayor was showing his willingness to be held accountable for things that happen in his city .... It has nothing to do whether he is competent to rule on the detail, that is why he defers to the experts regarding the details.

The chaos was caused by the original event and did NOT arise because the re-opening of the road was delayed by an hour ......

Showing his willingness to be held accountable?
I'm sorry, but what exact planet are you on at the moment?

 

[HunterGR]

Clearly you have NOT followed this event as closely as you think you have... otherwise you would be aware of the response of the Mayor and the leader of the Gauteng Province, their presence yesterday and late into the night on site

Are you Parks Tau? If not why may I ask are you so adamant in supporting him? The only thing he has done for CoJ is add to today's chaos by - as correctly stated by other members of the forum - just pitching up for a photo op. As for what he did last night on site as you say, i really doubt he took his Hugo Boss jacket off and started moving pieces of mangled metal in the clean up operation. He was probably just there to blow smoke up reporters and average joe's backsides.

 

[icyrus]

The Mayor was showing his willingness to be held accountable for things that happen in his city .... It has nothing to do whether he is competent to rule on the detail, that is why he defers to the experts regarding the details.

I must have missed something, what responsibility or accountability did he take?

The chaos was caused by the original event and did NOT arise because the re-opening of the road was delayed by an hour ......

Did delaying opening it by an hour make traffic conditions better or worse?

 

[The_Unbeliever]

a leader leads from the front, gets his hands dirty, and deals out credit when needed...

a manager orders from the comfort and safety of his office, and steals all the credit due to others...

big difference between these two.

 

[Sinbad]

But don't worry there is free WiFi iin braamfontein

tau only cares about his image in the media. His pet projects spend money that should be spent providing basic services, so he can look good.
He is scum