Mac OS X Flaws

d0b33

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Things OS X Cannot Do

Right Click to Create Text Files: You have to open TextEdit, create a file, navigate to the right folder, and save as...just to create a stupid file. There is a plugin, but it doesn't work that well. Note: textClipping is NOT a solution. See my comment below.

Set a picture as background: You certainly cannot select a picture in finder to set it as background. No app in OS X lets you do that. You have to use go through a long series of clicks in desktop background settings and manually find your file. The only other way is to open your image file in firefox and set as background. Maybe iPhoto can do it, but it's useless for pictures that are not photos. Horrible design.

Choose entire folders to be wallpapers: You can add a folder, but SUBFOLDERS ARE NOT INCLUDED. What good does that do??? Again, iPhoto is useless for anything but photos, so unless all your wallpapers are photos, don't expect iPhoto to be a solution.

Merging folders: When you copy a folder, if the new location contains a folder of the same name, there is no way to merge the folders. Instead, Finder overwrites the original folder with the new one. All files in the original folder are lost. The only way to get around this is to use the unix mv command....very user unfriendly design.

Basic Things You Need Plugins For:

* Uninstall: Just dragging the application to trash doesn't delete the preference files associated with it.

* Preventing your computer from going to sleep when you close the lid.

* Resize your window from other than the bottom right corner.

* Open Terminal in any folder from finder.

* There is No Stereo Mix. Even with Soundflower, it's impossible to both redirect sound
and play them.

* Cannot turn off mouse acceleration. You need to buy software like USB Overdrive.

Trash is Broken

Cannot selectively delete trash: There is no way to delete one or several items in trash at a time. (useful when you want to double check the items one at a time before you actually delete them). You can only empty all the trash at once.

Cannot restore trash: If you accidentally moved something to trash by accident, there is no option to restore the file to its original location. You have to remember where it was. Why do you even need trash if you can't even restore what you deleted to where it was?

Cannot disable trash: Even though trash sucks so much, there is no way to disable
it. There is no way to delete files directly without moving to trash in finder's GUI.

Finder is Broken

There is no cut: There is no "cut" option like in all other OS. So to move a file you have navigate to the destination in a separate Finder window and drag to it, or drag while navigating in the same Finder window through many folders and hope you don't miss.

Can't calculate total size: When you select some files in a folder and right click -> Get Info to find the total size, Finder displays a box for EACH item with the individual sizes.

That's not what I want. I don't want to manually add up the file sizes.

Bad selection of shortcuts: Enter is rename, Command-O is open. Inefficient. The action that you do more requires more keystrokes. What kind of files are renamed more than opened?

Can't do quick keyboard navigation because you can't press enter to go into a subfolder.

More bad selection of shortcuts: Backspace should be move up a level in finder, not back. Moving up a level is used more often. Having to press 2 keys for it (cmd-up) is dumb.

Hard to rename files anyway: You cannot rename files in succession. In windows, you would press F2, rename, tab to the next file, rename... etc. In Finder, you have to: enter, name, enter, downarrow, enter, name, enter...etc.

Even harder to mass rename: There is no way select all files, rename them, and have finder append a number after each file like in Vista. Such a simple task shouldn't require automator.

Limited icon size: In icon view, the largest icon size is 128x128 (except in search mode), useless for previewing documents and image files. Yes, there is quicklook, but what if you want to preview multiple files at a time?

Hard to change icon size: It's even harder to change the icon size. You have to go to view options, which requires many clicks. (except in search mode).

Bad Spacing: The spaces between icons are too big. If you reduce the spacing, the
filenames are unnecessarily truncated.

Hard to view metadata: Most views don't show file metadata (size, dimensions, created..etc). Only column view and search mode's icon view have them.

Column view has problems: Let's say you're previewing through a bunch of images in quicklook and deleting the unwanted ones. (so you're pressing down arrow for next file)
When you press cmd-backspace to delete one file, the focus is BACK TO THE PARENT FOLDER. You have to remember and manually navigate to where you left off. It could be
1000 files...

File transfers don't display transfer rate

Cluttered list view: You can easily clutter up the list view by expanding too many folders. There is no way to automatically collapse all of them. You're stuck with a messed up view.

Sorting: Folders are not always at the top when arranging by kind in list view. Need to edit a system file to achieve this. Even if the folders happen to be on top when you sort by kind, you cannot sort by an additional column.

Spotlight sucks

No customization: There are only 3 columns in spotlight search list view. So hard to find information about these files.

No customization: Cannot choose specific extensions or sizes to include/exclude. Only a limited preset of types.

Cannot search while indexing: And indexing takes forever.

Bad Calculator Syntax: 2^3 doesn't work. It has to be pow(2,3). I think that's the syntax
for C? Well I shouldn't have to deal with it.

Bad Navigation

No single key delete: It's cmd-backspace. Delete should be more accessible.

Tabs only cycle over text boxes, not buttons or check boxes.

Cannot close property/option dialogs with cmd-w: Inconsistent with other Finder windows.

No consistent shortcut to switch tabs: Firefox, terminal, adium..all have different shortcuts for those. Textmate doesn't even have a shortcut. No shortcut for tabs in preference dialogs, either.

Two ways to press a button: Enter = press highlighted/default button. Space = press bordered button. Confusing. Why can't I use tab or arrow keys to move the highlight?

Smart folder is actually a file: This means you cannot navigate into it in any application other than Finder.

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bwana

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Way too much to refute or defend - it doesnt do things the linux or Windows way because its OsX.

In fact the only thing I agree with is that spotlight sucks . . . because it does.
 

PeterCH

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Way too much to refute or defend. In fact the only thing I agree with is that spotlight sucks . . . because it does.

I think it beats Windows search or Desktop Search and it's fast IMO. Indexing does not take 'forever' the way this guy makes it sound, in fact when I boot up I don't usually notice the indexing unless I've added a new drive full of files
which then can take 2-3 minutes to index max. In comparison Windoze takes much longer to boot up and after the screen comes on you still can't use it as it's loading various services and garbage files.
 

d0b33

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Most of what gets mentioned is not really an issue for me, but when I started using OSX these things were and still are annoying to me...

Resize your window from other than the bottom right corner
There is no cut
No single key delete
Cannot restore trash(have to manually drag items out)
 

bwana

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I think it beats Windows search or Desktop Search and it's fast IMO.
Maybe it does - I dont make use of either enough to have an opinion of them. For me Quicksilver is enough.
 

PeterCH

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Most of what gets mentioned is not really an issue for me, but when I started using OSX these things were and still are annoying to me...

Resize your window from other than the bottom right corner
There is no cut
No single key delete
Cannot restore trash(have to manually drag items out)

Only the last item was an issue - restoring single items of trash vs everything.

Oh and Right Clicking was an issue, which is why I enabled it in Mac OSX with the mighty mouse. Works like Windoze. One can also use any Windows mouse in OSX. In fact you need a 3 button mouse for applications like FCS's Color and Apple Shake although both run fine with the Mighty Mouse :).
 

Sputnik

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Xflaws

I looked at the link and it's the ye olde blogspot soapbox...

talk about one man and fax.
 

NameOfBeast

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Heresy!

In fact the only thing I agree with is that spotlight sucks . . . because it does.

Speed or the interface? If it's the interface (and I'd agree with you there) there are some nice add-on enhancements:

http://mac.synthesisstudios.com/mac/filespot/about

Or others:

http://www.applelinks.com/index.php/more/spotlight_enhancers_and_alternatives_shootout/

Other than the interface being clunky, spotlight is so far ahead of any Win/linux indexing that I think it one of the best things about OS X.
 

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Each to his own, folks. I am an ex-windows user (in my private capacity, I'm still forced to use windows as I develop software for a living...), and got used to OS X's "quirks" very easily. BUT, (and, you'll notice, it is a BIG BUT ;) ), it has things like iLife, and the built-in spell checker, no matter which software package you are using...

The only thing I really miss is a TotalCommander (www.ghisler.com) equivalent, which, incidentally, is based on the good old Norton Commander for DOS. But wait, that reveals my age, darnit...

Anyway, as a "mature" user, I am just no longer interested in wrestling with an OS to get things done and/or working. Leopard does it for me in a big way. Now, where the %&*(# is Snow Leopard already !?
 
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d0b33

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Anyway, as a "mature" user, I am just no longer interested in wrestling with an OS to get things done and/or working. Leopard does it for me in a big way.

Same here, despite the "flaws" I still enjoy my leopard install especially now that I have it setup exactly the way I want for maximum efficiency.
 

phiber

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Imagine trying to make a list like that for windoze or ubuntu, it would be 10 times longer. Also 90% of the stuff in that list is BS... who cares about right clicking and making text files??

Also spotlight is better than windows search and google desktop in my opinion. Spotlight can actually index a drive without breaking your machine!!!!
 

Xyber

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I'm a new mac user. Got a Macbook Pro 15" about 3 weeks ago and just starting to get
used to it. The posted list do contain a lot of things that irritates me cause I'm so used
to windows.

Anyone know of a good editor/IDE for C# code that not only support syntax highlighting
but also got code completion/intellisense? I installed a VM just so I can run XP with
Visual Studio C# express while developing :-/ but would prefer a native mac app.
My work is in Unity3D so I'm forced to work on the mac and all scripts are coded
in C# . Soon as Unity3D 2.5 comes out I can go back to windows for development
and use the mac for testing and general stuff like browsing the net maybe.
 
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NameOfBeast

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Anyone know of a good editor/IDE for C# code that not only support syntax highlighting
but also got code completion/intellisense? I installed a VM just so I can run XP with
Visual Studio C# express while developing :-/ but would prefer a native mac app.
My work is in Unity3D so I'm forced to work on the mac and all scripts are coded
in C# . Soon as Unity3D 2.5 comes out I can go back to windows for development
and use the mac for testing and general stuff like browsing the net maybe.

TextMate is highly regarded (I bought a license, for non C# reasons) and there is a C# bundle:

After playing around with 10 million other editors, I've decided to make a C# bundle for TextMate. If you'd be interested in using it, it is available here. (URL Fixed on 4/19 -- previously was a 404 error)

Currently this bundle adds to text mate:


* Syntax Highlighting for C#
* Syntax Highlighting for Unity Classes (thanks Neil!)
* Auto Completion for Unity Classes (thanks Neil!)
* Symbol Menu, allowing you to jump around
* Basic Snippets for C# -- short macros that save you time typing.

See here.
 

StbA

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The only thing that I dislike about OSX is Finder, this is not surprising seeing as Finder is extremely old and has been long overdue for an update.

Good news for Mac fans, OSX Snow Leopard does have an update.

And that's all I have to say about that.
 

d0b33

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The only thing that I dislike about OSX is Finder, this is not surprising seeing as Finder is extremely old and has been long overdue for an update.

Good news for Mac fans, OSX Snow Leopard does have an update.

And that's all I have to say about that.

Yeah, I heard it will be reworked with cocoa.
 

Sackboy

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I think it beats Windows search or Desktop Search and it's fast IMO. Indexing does not take 'forever' the way this guy makes it sound, in fact when I boot up I don't usually notice the indexing unless I've added a new drive full of files
which then can take 2-3 minutes to index max. In comparison Windoze takes much longer to boot up and after the screen comes on you still can't use it as it's loading various services and garbage files.
Of course it does, which is why it indexes every file.
 
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