MAC vs WINDOWS

bwana said:
They did that with the mac office too but everyone I know buys the cheap student/teacher edition anyway :D
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I actually bought the Professional one to get the included XP license for Parallels :D
 
Well you know what Hannum said ...... :p
 
Claymore said:
Interesting, Leopard, hacked to run on a PC, ran faster on the PC than on the Mac, according to some benchmarks I saw the other day.
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Haven't seen the benchmarks ... All I said was the Windows runs faster on a Mac than on a higher spec PC.

Claymore said:
I didn't know that about VMWare and Parallels! They've come a long way to be able to virtualise DirectX enough to play Call of Duty or FEAR or whatever.
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Yep, they put alot of effort in ... and the easiest way to get it going is burn a Bootcamp driver CD and load it in your VM
 
Claymore said:
So how far can you spec/overclock a Mac Pro compared to a PC?
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No idea - never had the need to try and overclock a mac. Do Windows users generally find they need to?

I'm guessing the procedure is dependant largely on the CPU?
 
One major drawback of Mac - AutoCAD doesn't run on it.

Personally I think Microsoft saved Apple many years ago, when they made the deal to have Internet Explorer run on the Mac & saved them again by releasing Microsoft Office for the Mac - I really think Office saved the Mac from becoming something like BeOS or OS/2, cool OS, but no 'mainstream' apps for it.

Ok, now you can flame me and tell me how great Apple is. ;)
 
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bwana said:
Actually it does run on a "Mac" just not under OsX ;)
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How silly is it to have to constantly boot into another OS, just to run a software app & then have to switch back + you have to buy two OS licences?

Does that make sense to you, dear bwana?

*I HATED it with a passion when I had to constantly boot between Windows NT & 98 in the 1990s. Thank goodness for Windows XP & Vista. :p
 
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kingrob said:
How silly is it to have to constantly boot into another OS, just to run a software app & then have to switch back + you have to buy two OS licences?

Does that make sense to you, dear bwana?

*I HATED it with a passion when I had to constantly boot between Windows NT & 98. Thank goodness for Windows XP & Vista. :p
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Of course the necessity to downgrade to windows is unfortunate but blame the software manufacturer not Apple. There are alternatives to booting into windows - think virtualization - but at least the functionality is there. I know many windows users who wish they could do the same and run Apples pro apps.

Mac hardware comes pre-installed and therefore pre licensed so you would only need to buy windows if you dont already own a copy. Most switchers do. :)

LandyMan said:
Erm, no? :confused:
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That there is a sucker born every minute :p :D
 
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Been using Windows XP since it got released in 2001 & so happy with it, haven't even made the upgrade to Vista yet & I'm really not in a hurry. :)

*Oh, the Vista tranformation pack gives me the Vista desktop, but without the performance penalty or extra hardware requirements.
 
kingrob said:
How silly is it to have to constantly boot into another OS, just to run a software app & then have to switch back + you have to buy two OS licences?

Does that make sense to you, dear bwana?

*I HATED it with a passion when I had to constantly boot between Windows NT & 98 in the 1990s. Thank goodness for Windows XP & Vista. :p
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You don't have to boot into a different OS ... thats the beauty of Parallels Desktop or VMWare Fusion ... same as Virtual PC for the PC environment ... I for instance have an external monitor, where I run a XP virtual environment, and the normal Mac OS on the notebook LCD ... So you hav two environments running at the same time
 
LandyMan said:
You don't have to boot into a different OS ... thats the beauty of Parallels Desktop or VMWare Fusion ... same as Virtual PC for the PC environment ... I for instance have an external monitor, where I run a XP virtual environment, and the normal Mac OS on the notebook LCD ... So you hav two environments running at the same time
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The last time I had to do that, was with Windows 3.1 running inside OS2 Warp...oh dear, I'm giving my age away here. lol
 
kingrob said:
Been using Windows XP since it got released in 2001 & so happy with it, haven't even made the upgrade to Vista yet & I'm really not in a hurry. :)

*Oh, the Vista tranformation pack gives me the Vista desktop, but without the performance penalty or extra hardware requirements.
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So you'd rather dress mutton up as lamb instead of "upgrading" to Vista? Vista cant be that much of an upgrade then can it? :confused:
 
bwana said:
So you'd rather dress mutton up as lamb instead of "upgrading" to Vista? Vista cant be that much of an upgrade then can it? :confused:
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Vista has some cool new features & I'm sure it will become really good (SP1), but I really don't have the strength to go through a new OS upgrade + have to fork out R3000 for it.
 
That Vista transformation pack is a b1tch to remove! One of my friends still can't get rid of it entirely :D
 
bwana said:
So you'd rather dress mutton up as lamb instead of "upgrading" to Vista? Vista cant be that much of an upgrade then can it? :confused:
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No, it isn't. MS spent more than 5 years developing a facelift that is heavy on resources, and can be largely duplicated by cheap or free 3rd-party apps. I can't think of any "must have" reasons to get Vista offhand...
 
Anyone claiming that Mac is superior on any basis with the exception of industrial design (Apple products by and large look sweet) is out of touch with the fact that its a choice, something Mac users are unfamiliar with due to the lack thereof in the Apple world (sorry couldn't stop myself;)) .
Anyone claiming that Windows is better for any reason is probably twelve years old or something ...most Windows users are grown ups who are too busy working to argue with strangers online.

Personally I like the range of software available on the Windows platform, most of my knowledge is PC centric and most of my mates use PCs. I have been using Vista for about 5 months and I love it (Hint: you need RAM to enjoy) it is a logical progression after XP and there are many improvements primarily where getting around your machine is concerned.
Media centre is outstanding, no need for Apple TV or anything like that and there are new features appearing almost weekly from winupdate.
 
bwana said:
No idea - never had the need to try and overclock a mac. Do Windows users generally find they need to?
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No, but it's a nice way of squeezing more performance out of your money.
 
kingrob said:
Personally I think Microsoft saved Apple many years ago, when they made the deal to have Internet Explorer run on the Mac & saved them again by releasing Microsoft Office for the Mac - I really think Office saved the Mac from becoming something like BeOS or OS/2, cool OS, but no 'mainstream' apps for it.
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Actually, bundling IE (and making it the default browser) was a condition to the availability of Office for Mac. But IE for Mac sucked so badly and MS didn't bother updating it past version 5.2 (ask anyone still using System 9) that Apple had no choice to build their own browser.

And I don't think the availability of Office "Saved" apple in any way. The vast majority of Mac users I have dealt with before Macs started becoming so popular in the last few years, were people who bought it for specific work related to their professions - graphic design, 3D stuff, photography, etc. For them the availability of Office is a convenience, not a necessity.
 
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