Make farm murders a priority - FF+

TKD01 said:
Malema and his uneducated ilk did that very well. Attacks on certian groups by a "leader" who also promises "economic freedom" sticks in the heads of their following. Hitler is a case and point.
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where is Malema now? and he isn't the first or the last person to suggest this, he is just voicing what a lot of lower class africans felt. for it to be genocide you have to be lined up and shoved into trains and then gas chambers to use the world genocide or even make a reference to Hitler. i don't see anyone ****ting on your chances of buying a house or car because of your race.

Yeah cutting off a 60yr old's fingers and burning with iron and boiling water is NOT hate crime?
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it is hate, but it's far from genocide. black women in townships deal with horrible mutilation too, is there a female genocide going on? or do only white people get murdered brutally now?

See my first post re. Malema. Might not be "organised" but its definitely enticed.
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So if I entice people to murder black people then it's black genocide? In order for genocide to happen there has to be a systematic removal of a race, not neo-nazi comments.

Please share the facts before making skewed comments
Is white people standing up for other white people (ie family friends etc) now branded racist according to you?
Is the Black Management Forum racist?
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People can stand up for whoever they wish, it's the manner in which they go about it that reveals if they are racist or not. Southafricasucks, censorbug, stormfront, just to name a few were/are big ranters about the white genocide. go visit their pages and decide for yourself.

you don't have to call it "genocide" to stand up for them
 
Thugscub said:
Well Killadoob, where would you prefer to live then? Accordingly to you its safer on a farm than any other area of the country. Then why are you not a farmer?
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well i would rather be on a farm than be in the squatter camps where most of the murder and rapes happen.

You have a far greater chance of being murdered if you are black. Fact. Granted they outnumbered the others yes but it doesn't change the fact that 35-40 black folk are murdered daily and only one or two whites. What i find rather odd is when a farmer is murdered we have front page news, threads on myBB very rarely do we have threads on the horrific attacks on black people.

Then we have to here this BS story about genocide, goodness me every time a white person dies people cry genocide and say well it's black killing blacks so it's not genocide :eek:.

Are you seriously why i am not a farmer? Why would i want to be a farmer. I am in the minority of people who get murdered. My three workers have more chance of being murdered than i do but of course they won't make the headlines if they do get murdered.
 
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killadoob said:
well i would rather be on a farm than be in the squatter camps where most of the murder and rapes happen.

You have a far greater chance of being murdered if you are black. Fact. Granted they outnumbered the others yes but it doesn't change the fact that 35-40 black folk are murdered daily and only one or two whites. What i find rather odd is when a farmer is murdered we have front page news, threads on myBB very rarely do we have threads on the horrific attacks on black people.

Then we have to here this BS story about genocide, goodness me every time a white person dies people cry genocide and say well it's black killing blacks so it's not genocide :eek:.

Are you seriously why i am not a farmer? Why would i want to be a farmer. I am in the minority of people who get murdered. My three workers have more chance of being murdered than i do but of course they won't make the headlines if they do get murdered.
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Thugscub said:
The question should have been. How many people on this forum are farmers? A lot of speculation from the forum. Let's hear from the horses mouth.
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We had one. KwaaiBoer. He sold his farm and moved to Scotland. He was fed up with the crap.
 
Kwaai Boer was at least nice.

Master Cain was that guy that said the Boermag will stop the wc? I did not know he was a farmer. Oh he was so much fun!! he was suppose to come back and and tell me he told me so... :twisted:
 
Mila said:
Kwaai Boer was at least nice.

Master Cain was that guy that said the Boermag will stop the wc? I did not know he was a farmer. Oh he was so much fun!! he was suppose to come back and and tell me he told me so... :twisted:
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Best part was that Boer viking called Gunther that made those videos on Youtube about how the Soccer World Cup finals is when the slaughter was going to begin, how we're all going to wake up too late and how we're so stupid that we can't see it.

then nothing happened, and then those videos magically disappeared :D he is still adament something is going to happen though.

yes, i have great reasons to be skeptical.
 
smalltownsky said:
Best part was that Boer viking called Gunther that made those videos on Youtube about how the Soccer World Cup finals is when the slaughter was going to begin, how we're all going to wake up too late and how we're so stupid that we can't see it.

then nothing happened, and then those videos magically disappeared :D he is still adament something is going to happen though.

yes, i have great reasons to be skeptical.
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I missed those! DAMMM!! :D :D
 
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Flanders said:
smalltownsky,

What's your take on this wrt. Malema and victimisation of the other group?

http://www.beeld.com/Suid-Afrika/Nuus/Deel-jul-grond-boere-20110429
http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politi...b/en/page71654?oid=233647&sn=Detail&pid=71654
http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politi...b/en/page71654?oid=233875&sn=Detail&pid=71654
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Malema said that if farmers share the majority of their land with the poor, they have no reason to fear criminals or farm attacks. With this Malema acknowledged that farm attacks and farm murders cannot be viewed as mere criminal acts," Mr. Werner Weber, chief spokesperson on land affairs and rural development for the Freedom Front Plus, said.
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I *think* Malema was trying to say that people attack those as they see them as having robbed them. the only other conclusion we can come to is he was speaking on behalf of someone else, and while he may share views with Sipho and Thandi, he doesn't speak for Lerato and Mike. Malema does not speak for all black people.

You should take anything that the ANC AND the VF+ say with a bag of salt. The VF+ doesn't give a **** about anyone except afrikaners and the ANC doesn't give a **** about any thing but their own pockets. You get decent people in the groups, but you just have to look at the issues the parties deal with and make molehills out of.

Here is an interesting site. I agree that there COULD be a white genocide if you look at the definition from the year 1944 by Raphael, but looking at the other definitons you will see that there is more to the definition of genocide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_definitions
 
smalltownsky said:
I *think* Malema was trying to say that people attack those as they see them as having robbed them. the only other conclusion we can come to is he was speaking on behalf of someone else, and while he may share views with Sipho and Thandi, he doesn't speak for Lerato and Mike. Malema does not speak for all black people.
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I'm not saying that Malema speaks for all black people. That much is obvious. What seems clear though, is that he is speaking for a group of people and that his statements appear as an open threat.

What the VF+ said here is irrelevant. They were simply making known what fatboy said.

Also, I wonder why this was so downplayed in the MSM at the time.
 
TKD01 said:
STOP thinking up hundreds of excuses and defending these idiots - otherwise you are part of the problem!
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i'm not defending the idiot, but i'm not going to see conspiracies everywhere that are not there. how do you explain people justifying murder of certain individuals? Malema was probably trying to justify it and stick up for his african brothers, i'm telling you what i think he was trying to say. unless you believe is is part of the Big Swaar Gevaar and that they have meetings every week on how to kill white people, and he let slip
 
Flanders said:
I'm not saying that Malema speaks for all black people. That much is obvious. What seems clear though, is that he is speaking for a group of people and that his statements appear as an open threat.

What the VF+ said here is irrelevant. They were simply making known what fatboy said.

Also, I wonder why this was so downplayed in the MSM at the time.
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of course, but Fatboy will pretend that he does speak for every black person. I agree that what he says will have an impact on people, people will take what he says to heart, but that is more a motive for murder in my eyes. i can justify why men abuse and rape women, but there is no external force supporting it or encouraging it apart from my views, and that is why i cannto see it as genocide. the fact that he has a platform and a support base just means that there are deluded people, and i feel that this is in the minority
 
smalltownsky said:
i'm not defending the idiot, but i'm not going to see conspiracies everywhere that are not there.
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Of course you are defending him! Your's was a typical response - "taken out of context" / "I was actually trying to say" / "What I meant was" ....
He threatens farmers to give up 80% of their land or risk being attacked - where the F is the conspiracy? In fact now he is directly involved!

smalltownsky said:
how do you explain people justifying murder of certain individuals? Malema was probably trying to justify it and stick up for his african brothers, i'm telling you what i think he was trying to say.
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Please rephrase the first sentence? What was Malema trying to justify?
 
If Malema said those things then it is a threat and he should have been dealt with but it looks like his political standing and political correctness protected him. I hesitate to add that I do not hold politicsweb in very high regard because of their leanings.

Something like would have been sure to attract very loud protests from Afriforum and I wonder why it didn't.
 
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