Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 missing!

rakabos3 said:
How is it that they can just lose a 777. How can it be that a gps unit is not installed on a plane and tracked at all times?
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I wonder this too. You think they would have a GPS and then a backup GPS and then a redundant backup GPS of the backup GPS.
 
Garyvdh said:
MALAYSIA MINISTER CONFIRMS JET SEARCH AREA EXPANDED

.......that the Boeing 777 had flown for an additional four or five hours after vanishing from civilian radar.
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With a cruising speed of Mach .84 (640mph) and no firm direction, that's a radius of about 3000 miles and a lot of area to inspect.
 
rakabos3 said:
How is it that they can just lose a 777. How can it be that a gps unit is not installed on a plane and tracked at all times?
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Mother nature tends to have the last laugh over technology. Maybe the plane sunk into one of those deep oceanic cracks? They go down pretty far.
 
Beerisgood said:
Mother nature tends to have the last laugh over technology. Maybe the plane sunk into one of those deep oceanic cracks? They go down pretty far.
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If it is the Atlantic ocean, then I think they'll only find it after a good few years.
 
Imagine this was a really complicated marketing stunt for a new LOST like show, and all the passengers are in on it. They'de be in massive trouble, but it would be pretty smart.

Or alternatively, imagine the plane suddenly lands at an airport in South America, with everyone on board, and from their point of view it was just a normal flight, no missing time or anything.
 
I'm very curious to see how this ends, obviously, I want the passengers to all be alive, but more keen to see how it vanished and what it did.
 
Foul play now receiving further investigation?

(Reuters) - An investigation into the disappearance of a Malaysia Airlines jetliner is focusing more on a suspicion of foul play, as evidence suggests it was diverted hundreds of miles off course, sources familiar with the Malaysian probe said.

In a far more detailed description of military radar plotting than has been publicly revealed, two sources told Reuters an unidentified aircraft that investigators suspect was missing Flight MH370 appeared to be following a commonly used navigational route when it was last spotted early on Saturday, northwest of Malaysia.

That course - headed into the Andaman Sea and towards the Bay of Bengal in the Indian Ocean - could only have been set deliberately, either by flying the Boeing 777-200ER jet manually or by programming the auto-pilot.

A third investigative source said inquiries were focusing more on the theory that someone who knew how to fly a plane deliberately diverted the flight hundreds of miles off its scheduled course from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

"What we can say is we are looking at sabotage, with hijack still on the cards," said the source, a senior Malaysian police official.
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http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/20...elieved_to_have_flown_back_over_malaysia.html

On Thursday, a U.S. official said the plane remained airborne after losing contact with air traffic control, sending a signal to establish contact with a satellite. The Malaysian official confirmed this, referring to the process by its technical term of a "handshake."

Boeing offers a satellite service that can receive a stream of data on how an aircraft is functioning in flight and relay the information to the plane's home base. Malaysia Airlines didn't subscribe to that service, but the plane still had the capability to connect with the satellite and was automatically sending signals, or pings, said the U.S. official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to discuss the situation by name.
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rakabos3 said:
How is it that they can just lose a 777. How can it be that a gps unit is not installed on a plane and tracked at all times?
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DrJohnZoidberg said:
I wonder this too. You think they would have a GPS and then a backup GPS and then a redundant backup GPS of the backup GPS.
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Sure they have GPSs. Several, in fact.

Maybe what you mean is a radio that sends the GPS data to a satellite or ground station?

Regulations by the FAA and most certification authorities worldwide require that RF transmitters on large commercial jet aircraft contain circuit breakers and on/off switches. This means that the phone-home GPS can be switched off just like the transponder. The CVR and FDR/ADR locator beacons are the one exception.
 
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Yeah, you're right.

Without our gadgetry the world is very, very big indeed.

Many years ago I participated in a search at sea, in a little Beechcraft Baron (twin). Just five minutes out to sea the land more or less disappears and the vast expanse of water stretches out in all directions. Pretty scary, to tell the truth. And with even a light sea haze, one's ability to discern altitude, and distinguish sea and sky begins to diminish ... endless undifferentiated expanse of water with a patchwork of light-dark ripples. After an hour of scouring the sea ones eyes begin to play tricks ... sitting in a plane checking out the water for flotsam is very much harder than you can imagine. After two hours your neck gets a crick because you have to look out with binocs in an unnatural position. The only thing that keep you going is putting yourself in the position of the poor souls bobbing in the ocean desperate to be spotted.

I can only imagine what it's like doing this for 12 hours a day, for five days now. The aircrews are working very hard.
 
Malaysian: Investigators conclude flight hijacked

Investigators have concluded that one or more people with significant flying experience hijacked the missing Malaysia Airlines jet, switched off communication devices and steered it off-course, a Malaysian government official involved in the investigation said Saturday.


Read more: http://www.3news.co.nz/Malaysian-In...7/articleID/336044/Default.aspx#ixzz2w0MbPk2Q
 
It makes sense to me. As I said a while back, that transponder was switched off intentionally. The decision tree from that point on does not have many branches.
 
....and to add to the mystery. 1 American on board yet Langkawi airport looked like a US invasion last night with more military planes than you have everseen in one place. :confused:
 
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