Malema charged over 'kill the boer'

Slootvreter said:
Correct. If they cannot afford children, don't have any! Common sense! But no....
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as jou pit jeuk moet jy krap. Regardless of money people procreate because they have a need for sex. Common sense for someone who is in a very comfortable situation yes..
 
Bizkit87 said:
well, when half the country is unemployed, and people in towships live in poverty, but they have 9-10 children... then yes.... PUT THE DICK DOWN, AND FIND A JOB - to quote chris rock.....
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all fo the children in the ghettoes are blessings, and need to be looked after

they deserve the best that life has to offer, and have rights

All children have the same rights. All rights are interconnected and of equal importance. The Convention stresses these principles and refers to the responsibility of children to respect the rights of others, especially their parents. By the same token, children's understanding of the issues raised in the Convention will vary depending on the age of the child. Helping children to understand their rights does not mean parents should push them to make choices with consequences they are too young to handle.
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http://www.unicef.org/crc/index_understanding.html
 
Negate said:
as jou pit jeuk moet jy krap. Regardless of money people procreate because they have a need for sex. Common sense for someone who is in a very comfortable situation yes..
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Perhaps you are being sarcastic. If so, :D

jimmyj said:
all fo the children in the ghettoes are blessings, and need to be looked after

they deserve the best that life has to offer, and have rights



http://www.unicef.org/crc/index_understanding.html
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Freeloading. I blame the stupid parents for having 10 babies they cannot feed. :mad:
 
jimmyj said:
all fo the children in the ghettoes are blessings, and need to be looked after

they deserve the best that life has to offer, and have rights



http://www.unicef.org/crc/index_understanding.html
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that made no sense, why quote what unicef is saying?

It's simple, IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD 10 CHILDREN, THEN DON'T HAVE 10 CHILDREN?

why do you think white families have 1 - 3 kids MAX? because that is the most they can afford to take care of..... easy....
 
Slootvreter said:
Perhaps you are being sarcastic. If so, :D



Freeloading. I blame the stupid parents for having 10 babies they cannot feed. :mad:
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yes, but should the children be condemned for the wrongs of the parents;
we cannot abandon them as this will have unforetold consequences for
society; many of which we are c'ing now.
 
Negate said:
India has an even more out of control birth rate. People are not the problem they are the resource on which we build a consumerist society. And on average an American is most likely more stupid than an African. Stupid people make money all the time by doing a simple repetitive task.

Money is a made up concept, you dont need smart or stupid to trade with it, you only need to be there. ZIM fell apart because the capitalists suddenly moved, no effort was made to educate or slowly transfer goods (and sanctions). Give zim enough time and without white capitalists they will build and maintain their own infrastructure. The people who controlled their infrastructure left without giving a helping hand, thus ZIM is in the state it is now not because their population is stupid but because their population never had a change to build wealth like the British pompesses
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Ha ha, no, Zim failed because Robert Mugabe chased out the white farmers, or killed those unlucky enough to not leave fast enough. He did that because he needed to give land to his supporters or risk losing their support. As it happens, his actions left them in a far worse state. But then, its par for the course. Exactly like the ANC, Rob Mugabe cares more about himself than any of the rural Zim people. And the greatest trick he ever pulled was convincing them otherwise.

Africa is really only in trouble because, at least for most politicians, once they are in power, their only desire is to help themselves, and leave their former comrades in the dust. Every single country has told the same story, and South Africa is no different. Look at Malema - he wallows in riches while his supporters struggle to find honest employment. Truly a hero to the people.
 
Ancalagon said:
Ha ha, no, Zim failed because Robert Mugabe chased out the white farmers, or killed those unlucky enough to not leave fast enough. He did that because he needed to give land to his supporters or risk losing their support. As it happens, his actions left them in a far worse state. But then, its par for the course. Exactly like the ANC, Rob Mugabe cares more about himself than any of the rural Zim people. And the greatest trick he ever pulled was convincing them otherwise.

Africa is really only in trouble because, at least for most politicians, once they are in power, their only desire is to help themselves, and leave their former comrades in the dust. Every single country has told the same story, and South Africa is no different. Look at Malema - he wallows in riches while his supporters struggle to find honest employment. Truly a hero to the people.
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Causality and I agree. What Mugabe did was wrong, what the world did in reaction to what he did was even worse
 
jimmyj said:
yes, but should the children be condemned for the wrongs of the parents;
we cannot abandon them as this will have unforetold consequences for
society; many of which we are c'ing now.
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Yes they should when they do not learn from their parents mistakes, and most probably they will keep on doing this until nature decides to take a hand herself.
 
Negate said:
as jou pit jeuk moet jy krap. Regardless of money people procreate because they have a need for sex. Common sense for someone who is in a very comfortable situation yes..
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This guavament gives free birth control. Sex is not an excuse to have babies you can not feed. Put a sock on it. Drink the pills or get an injection.
 
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Negate said:
Causality and I agree. What Mugabe did was wrong, what the world did in reaction to what he did was even worse
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so, to follow your logic, the world placing sanctions on south africa during apartheid in an effort to force the hand of the government was also wrong?
 
Mila said:
This guavament gives free birth control. Sex is not an excuse to have babies you can not feed. Put a sock on it. Drink the pills or get an injection.

And allot of people dont take it because of the negative effects. Birth control works and compared to other African and overseas countries south Africa has a very stable birth rate. Why allot of rural people get children in order to receive grants from the goverment. Thus in one instance the government tries and controls birth rates and on the other hand they inflame it. You are reading my post out of context. My point was only that birth rates can not be used as excuse for our poor economy pfft

sit down
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Negate said:
And allot of people dont take it because of the negative effects. Birth control works and compared to other African and overseas countries south Africa has a very stable birth rate. Why allot of rural people get children in order to receive grants from the goverment. Thus in one instance the government tries and controls birth rates and on the other hand they inflame it. You are reading my post out of context. My point was only that birth rates can not be used as excuse for our poor economy pfft

sit down
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What side effects?
Soz yes that came out wrong.. fixed it.
 
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jimmyj said:
all fo the children in the ghettoes are blessings, and need to be looked after

they deserve the best that life has to offer, and have rights
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Why are you saying this ? Nobody said anything about not looking after kids !

The issue is not having them when you can't afford to look after them.

Off on a tangent again, rather tiring arguing with an ignoramus.

You guys are really not doing much to promote the ANC here, it is coming out very negative !
 
Negate said:
as jou pit jeuk moet jy krap. Regardless of money people procreate because they have a need for sex. Common sense for someone who is in a very comfortable situation yes..
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Perhaps we should introduce poor people to this new, colonialist habit of MASTURBATION... :D
 
silentbee said:
so, to follow your logic, the world placing sanctions on south africa during apartheid in an effort to force the hand of the government was also wrong?
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With or without sanctions the black majority was bound a revolution, this little moment of history has repeated itself many times. Sanctions only puts pressure on the capitalism of a country as such apartheid had many sharks at his heals. Instead of learning people to farm Mugabe chased away the farmers he had out of stupidity. South Africa did not have a supply problem, we are very rich in resources, thus sanctions in our country mainly influenced big business that involve capitalism. In a country like ZIM with no farmers, no decent banking system, and an exclusion from world economics which devaluates their currency. With a devlauted currency they are unable to buy goods and services. Their currency devlauted because nobody wanted zim dollor anymore. With no one trading in zim the value(not price) decrease drastically.

Basically what is happening is, people are pushing for the removal of sanction. In the end Mugabe is going to realize he will need to farm for himself and he just just of the experts in the field. With or with Sanction mugabe would have learned this lesson.

I say fck the usa and their ignorant view on what sanctions actually do, in reality it woresens an already fctup situation
 
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3Com said:
lets start our own slogan then "kill the shacks".
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^ Ah, we have another Julias here ladies and gentleman ^

sorry, but it seems you two have the same mentality....one idiot decides to chant hate speech now suddenly you want to do it too? :erm:
 
Negate said:
With or without sanctions the black majority was bound a revolution, this little moment of history has repeated itself many times. Sanctions only puts pressure on the capitalism of a country as such apartheid had many sharks at his heals. Instead of learning people to farm Mugabe chased away the farmers he had out of stupidity. South Africa did not have a supply problem, we are very rich in resources, thus sanctions in our country mainly influenced big business that involve capitalism. In a country like ZIM with no farmers, no decent banking system, and an exclusion from world economics which devaluates their currency. With a devlauted currency they are unable to buy goods and services. Their currency devlauted because nobody wanted zim dollor anymore. With no one trading in zim the value(not price) decrease drastically.

Basically what is happening is, people are pushing for the removal of sanction. In the end Mugabe is going to release he will need to farm for himselfs and he just just iof the experts in the field. With or with Sanction mugabe would have learned this lesson.

I say fck the usa and their ignorant view on what sanctions actually do, in reality it woresens an already fctup situation
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it seems that you have no idea what you are talking about. mugabe 'inherited' a pretty stable and natural-resource rich country. he simply ran it into the ground. only then where sanctions implemented. sanctions did not cause the zimbabwe's very sad state of affairs.
 
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