Malema warned of 'consequences'

Voltorr said:
Lancelot remember to think about how you would feel if someone threatened you existence, especially considering Africa's past.
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I am a white male. I could easily consider that my existence is being threatened if I took to heart all the scaremongering handed out on this forum.
 
LancelotSA said:
Are you questioning my sexuality or my race? Either way it would be far more mature of you to back of with these constant subtle insults of yours.
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I only asked a question. Are you sure? Whats wrong with that? The Interwebz are a funny/phoney place!
 
LancelotSA said:
How exactly do you think politics works? Has Andre Visagie been kicked out of the AWB for his actions on Etv? Has his "party" publicly condemned what he did? The ANC and Zuma have now publicly condemned Malema's actions. Good on them. They can now be held to their word. I personally am happy with this.
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You're obviously happy with very little then. Yes I agree that Zuma condemning Malema is a good start, but more needs to happen. He needs to be robbed of his position as the ANCYL president so that no-one can listen to this mickey mouse. Just as an aside, in modern Western democracies, the politicians step down. The previous House of the Commons speaker (UK) was forced to resign. There have also been numerous cases in the US where Democrats and Republicans have been forced to resign.
 
LancelotSA said:
I am a white male. I could easily consider that my existence is being threatened if I took to heart all the scaremongering handed out on this forum.
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so how should we feel when someone says :"kill the boer, kill the farmer" (Boer refering to Afrikaners/White south Africans, in case you were going to ask)?
 
How anyone could be satisfied with this token gesture is quite beyond me. I can also give orders to my pet doberman to bite someone walking past and then run out and say to it "you're a bad little doggie-woggie, I'm going to spank your little bottomie-wottomie." Somehow I think the oke that got bit is still not going to appreciate it.
 
Zuma said the ANC Youth League was not an independent body, saying that it existed within the umbrella policy and discipline of the ANC.
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But all the ANC supporters are saying the ANCYL is independent from the ANC.
 
Nothxkbi said:
Malema's remarks and attitude towards a BBC journalist were DISGUSTING. Everytime I think of that interview I feel myself getting angry. Who the heck does Julius think he is exactly?
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Umm Julias Malema... 'you can't touch this!'
 
The ANC has issued a further statement addressing the political and social conduct of media, politicians and citizens saying that discipline and respect of others needs to be adhered to.

Read the statement here:

Ladies and gentlemen of the media, At the meeting of the ANC's National Executive Committee last month, we spoke out strongly about the need for discipline among the members of the organisation and more generally for all to respect the rules of political engagement.

As the organisation's leadership we were drawing the line, and that there would be consequences for anyone who crossed that line.

Matters relating to the conduct and statements of the ANC Youth League which are totally alien to the culture of the ANC have made it necessary for us to emphasise a few fundamental principles today.

This is an appropriate moment to do so, particularly since it is the anniversary of the brutal assassination of one of the outstanding heroes of our struggle, Comrade Chris Hani.

On this anniversary, we recommit ourselves to uphold the values and traditions to which he and scores of the countrys national heroes dedicated their lives.

We commit ourselves to continue working tirelessly to build a non-racial, non-sexist, united and democratic South Africa, founded on the positive values that are enshrined in the Constitution.

We urge all South Africans to work with us in achieving these goals. But ANC cadres must lead in this process. We also wish to underscore the following important points:

The country's Constitution enshrines the principle of freedom of the media.

An independent and free media is one of the cornerstones of democracy.

It is an important barometer of the extent to which the people are freely able to express themselves.

While in a democracy there will inevitably be times of contestation between the media and other sections of society, the fundamental principles should be adhered to at all times.

We must accord journalists the freedom to do their work unhindered.

We should engage them professionally and with dignity.

Should there be a need to take issue with anything that is being reported, it should be done in a manner that promotes frank and open engagement.

The manner in which a BBC journalist was treated at an ANC Youth League press conference is regrettable and unacceptable, regardless of any alleged provocation on his part.

We place a high premium on order, stability and the rule of law in the country.

That is why the ruling party took the step this week of calling for restraint from all its structures and members.

Anyone who then goes against that statement is undermining the leadership authority of the ANC, and that cannot be accepted.

When the ANC has made such a statement, it is totally out of order for us to continue as if such a statement was not made.

Certainly there must be consequences for such behaviour.

We have done this because of the need to respect a high court ruling relating to a particular liberation song.

We also recognise that this song, in the current environment, could be misunderstood by those not familiar with the context and content of our struggle.

In making this call, we do not intend in any way to diminish the proud history of struggle against apartheid.

We do recognise that we have a responsibility to act in a way that reduces the potential for tension, and encourages unity.

Our Constitution enshrines the independence of the judiciary and the rule of law.

We must recognise the role of the judiciary as the final arbiter in disputes in society.

The dignity and decorum of the institution must always be protected and defended.

There are procedures that one should follow to challenge court decisions.

Defiance of these procedures should not be tolerated.

It would make mockery of our judicial system.

It should be noted that to appeal a court decision is not to defy it.

South Africa is a respected member of the international community.

The country has certain responsibilities and obligations in the regional and broader international spheres.

One of these is to facilitate the implementation of the Global Peace Agreement in Zimbabwe.

We undertake this task with the necessary seriousness and sensitivity, and have to ensure impartiality at all times.

We will continue to facilitate the resolution of the impasse in Zimbabwe and to treat all parties with respect.

We cannot and will not side with any one of the parties to the exclusion of others.

We received a report from the last round of talks held last week.

We will work with the parties again to take the process forward.

The 21st of April will mark the 50 days until the start of the 2010 FIFA World Cup. Initial research indicates that South Africa is likely to receivem 450 000 international fans between June 11 and July 11.

South Africa remains ready to receive visitors from all walks of life and from all parts of the globe.

We are now putting final touches to our plans on security, logistics, hospitality, transport and others.

We urge international soccer fans to continue buying tickets and to prepare themselves to enjoy South African hospitality and experience the first African World Cup ever.

Recent events have raised concerns in some quarters about social cohesion.

Some people have spoken of heightened racial tension. We should not be dismissive of such concerns, and should be prepared to engage in dialogue to address them.

But we must acknowledge that South Africans remain united in their support for the Constitution, the values it enshrines, and the democratic institutions it has established.

South Africans are clearly committed to work together to address the legacy of our divided past.

Our history tells us that there is no challenge we cannot overcome. Among other things this requires responsible leadership.

The ANC Youth League is not an independent body.It exists within the umbrella policy and discipline of the ANC. The organisation will deal with these matters internally as it deems fit. We reiterate that leaders should think before they speak, as their utterances have wider implications for the country
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Translation:

The purpose of our statement is to restore the false sense of security and calm that existed before these heightened tensions. This will enable us to once again return to a more covert transformation process. We fully support Malema and his views however the recent uproar was unexpected, potentially threatening our ability to milk our tax base while building towards our long term aim which is ultimately to implement Zimbabwe style polices in South Africa. We request that our our tax base please believe this statement in spite of the fact the statement completely contradicts all our actions.

I thank you.
 
I've been reading about this for a while. I know, I am in not really in the situation to say anything as I'm a Scotsman living in Scotland, but the good thing is that Zuma has finally spoken out about his behaviour and the ANC President as well.
It'll be interesting to see what Julius does next, and it could well be lipservice but it's good that the ANC are clamping down on him, his comments have been disgraceful esp the last few months andd I can understand why a lot o the whites are all feeling uneasy about the future.

All the best,
 
Milano said:
The purpose of our statement is to restore the false sense of security and calm that existed before these heightened tensions. This will enable us to once again return to a more covert transformation process. We fully support Malema and his views however the recent uproar was unexpected, potentially threatening our ability to milk our tax base while building towards our long term aim which is ultimately to implement Zimbabwe style polices in South Africa. We request that our our tax base please believe this statement in spite of the fact the statement completely contradicts all our actions.

I thank you.
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Spot on bro. I cant believe how gullible some people are (aka Lancelot). Malema has been acting in this way and spewing this utter rubbish for years. Wow.. Zuma "Spoke to him" and read some words off a piece of paper. We are saved!

In any other other civilized society someone like Malema would have stepped down by now or would be asked to resign from the party. Full stop. It would be political suicide to act in the way he did. He would never serve in public office again.

A week or two will go by, and then he will carry on with his rhetoric. Brainwashing all his braindead supporters. Dont underestimate how many followers this guy has.
 
Milano said:
Translation:

The purpose of our statement is to restore the false sense of security and calm that existed before these heightened tensions. This will enable us to once again return to a more covert transformation process. We fully support Malema and his views however the recent uproar was unexpected, potentially threatening our ability to milk our tax base while building towards our long term aim which is ultimately to implement Zimbabwe style polices in South Africa. We request that our our tax base please believe this statement in spite of the fact the statement completely contradicts all our actions.

I thank you.
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+100000000000
 
marine1 said:
+100000000000
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Wow, you're managing to count higher and higher each time you post one of these.

KillerX said:
Spot on bro. I cant believe how gullible some people are (aka Lancelot).
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Incredible how when when someone does not share your same views they are gullible, delusional and what ever other crap you guys have come up with. And it is equally funny how the apparent "realists" were convincing the truly gullible ones that civil war was due to erupt when Terrblanche was killed yet one week on there is still no talk of war.... and I am delusional and gullible! ha ha :rolleyes:
 
LancelotSA said:
Great stuff.

Of course we will get the usual suspects saying that this is not enough but it is likely that even if a public hanging of Malema was arranged they'd still say it is not enough. You just can't please some people and it just makes them look silly when they first of all say the ANC will keep quiet about Malema and then, when the ANC reigns him in, they just change their tune.
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Lol - who reigned who in? Malema went ballistic at the ANCYL "conference", just hours after being "rebuked".

LancelotSA said:
If I search this forum I am almost 100% convinced that I will find a number of members stating that they do not expect the ANC or Zuma to say anything to Malema. The ANC have now said something to Malema. But move those goalposts...

How exactly do you think politics works? Has Andre Visagie been kicked out of the AWB for his actions on Etv? Has his "party" publicly condemned what he did? The ANC and Zuma have now publicly condemned Malema's actions. Good on them. They can now be held to their word. I personally am happy with this.
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Are you sure you live in SA? The ANC will deny everything by Monday.

LancelotSA said:
I am a white male. I could easily consider that my existence is being threatened if I took to heart all the scaremongering handed out on this forum.
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What is the opposite of a "coconut"?
 
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