Manager fired for racist remarks

thestaggy said:
I used to work for a company when I was younger and the owner and one of his employees had a very strange relationship.

The owner would refer to said employee as a k****r while he'd in return respond with ''Ja, mlungu'' or he'd walk it to the office and ask ''Where is the old bastard?''

When I asked if the use of k****r bothered him the guy said no because the owner is old, so he ''understands'' why he uses the word. The two worked very well together and this guy was actually a key employee that the business relied on.

Strange relationship.
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Sticks and stones will break my bones,
But words will never harm me.
 
MickeyD said:
Progressive action... nice request, warning, infraction, ban...
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I said I will stop.

Patrick_Hockstetter said:
How does racism hurt people?
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It hurts when you get called in front of the equity court for hate speech, it will hurt even more if hate speech is criminalised and you go to jail, where bubba will keep you nice and cosy.
 
konfab said:
I said I will stop.


It hurts when you get called in front of the equity court for hate speech, it will hurt even more if hate speech is criminalised and you go to jail, where bubba will keep you nice and cosy.
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Yes but how does it actually hurt the person on the receiving end of racism.
 
thestaggy said:
I used to work for a company when I was younger and the owner and one of his employees had a very strange relationship.

The owner would refer to said employee as a k****r while he'd in return respond with ''Ja, mlungu'' or he'd walk it to the office and ask ''Where is the old bastard?''

When I asked if the use of k****r bothered him the guy said no because the owner is old, so he ''understands'' why he uses the word. The two worked very well together and this guy was actually a key employee that the business relied on.

Strange relationship.
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I don't find that strange at all.

The racism isn't in the word. It's in the intended hatred in the person saying it. If the intended hatred isn't there, then the word is harmless unless the receiver decides to be offended by something superficial.

In this situation, the receiver understands that there is no hatred behind the use of the word. Therefore he is not offended and they get along great. It's very un-PC, but the receiver understands that the sender comes from a different era so he gives leighway to reflect that.

Modern PC culture has a major focus on the packaging and not the contents/substance which is why it does more damage to race relations than it solves. I'd rather have one abrasive old guy who employs and helps people than 10 snobby douches who boost their self-esteem by imitating PC-Principal.
 
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MickeyD said:
The option to post images in N&CA was recently activated for the sole purpose of posting images relevant to the article.
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So not just the bait memes, but memes in general?
 
Patrick_Hockstetter said:
Yes but how does it actually hurt the person on the receiving end of racism.
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It depends on what the actual racism was:

If it were denying a person of a job, then the hurt is pretty obvious.
If it is something that a person said and is classified as hate speech, then it could be said that it is hurting the dignity(a right) of a person.

It is analogous to bullying. Would you say that making someones life a misery is not hurting them?
 
konfab said:
It depends on what the actual racism was:

If it were denying a person of a job, then the hurt is pretty obvious.
If it is something that a person said and is classified as hate speech, then it could be said that it is hurting the dignity(a right) of a person.

It is analogous to bullying. Would you say that making someones life a misery is not hurting them?
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Thanks. Just wanted clarity.

So AA is racism? Howbeit "positive racism"
 
PE man fired for calling his colleagues the k-word

A Port Elizabeth construction company has dismissed a worker after he allegedly called his colleagues the k-word.

Racism has remained firmly in the spotlight with a number of individuals being called out for posting racist comments on social media platforms in recent weeks.

O Steyn Construction owner Okkie Steyn says the man defended himself by saying he’s been calling black people the k-word for more than 60 years.

Steyn says the company has distanced itself from the man’s comments.

“I’ve got a very strong feeling about it. I’m very much against it, it’s not where we should be at this time of our lives, and if everybody stands together we’ll be far better off than where we are at the moment.”

Meanwhile, a Cape Town attorney laid criminal charges against a woman who called him and his friends the k-word over the weekend.

Yamkela Ntola, a second-year candidate attorney at Cullinan and Associates, opened the case against Nicole de Klerk on Sunday.

On Saturday, de Klerk called Ntola and other professionals at the Queen’s Plate horse racing event, the k-word repeatedly.

She later apologised on Twitter, saying she was embarrassed by what she’d said.

Ntola said he felt insulted.

“I laid a charge of crimen injuria at the Wynberg Police Station. I will then lay a complaint at the Human Rights Commission on the basis of hate speech and ask them to take it forward from there.”
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http://m.ewn.co.za/2016/01/13/PE-man-fired-for-using-the-k-word

Another article fueling race hate. What is the media's agenda?
 
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