Mass stabbing on UK train

wingnut771 said:
How much worse must it get for you to stop voting liberal?
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Ask the Farage fans why they voted for Brexit, which ended the right to send the small boats straight back to where they originated.

You expect me to vote for the stupid cnut that escalated the problem in the first place?
 
vigras rojara said:
Ask the Farage fans why they voted for Brexit, which ended the right to send the small boats straight back to where they originated.

You expect me to vote for the stupid cnut that escalated the problem in the first place?
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what what?

Sounds like a liberal rule.
 
vigras rojara said:
Yes, people said the same after the much worse 7/7 attack 20 years ago.

Things probably will get worse, but I doubt we're headed to 40 people a day anytime soon.
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Maybe not soon, but eventually. The problem at the moment is that anyone trying to highlight the issues is called a far right racist and their voices are not heard. So now it has become a game of politicians ignoring said issues and appeasing the masses which is just essentially just papering over the cracks. It won’t last forever.
 
Spizz said:
Maybe not soon, but eventually. The problem at the moment is that anyone trying to highlight the issues is called a far right racist and their voices are not heard. So now it has become a game of politicians ignoring said issues and appeasing the masses which is just essentially just papering over the cracks. It won’t last forever.
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For sure - I've never said it isn't a problem. I totally agree that it is.

But the solution isn't the far right either. They caused the issue to escalate and now rely on shouting populist rhetoric to gain support, when they themselves know they are utterly incompetent to do anything about it.

Their strategy is working though, as it did with Brexit. You only have to look at the UK Politics thread. We have had some neo-Nazis jailed for terrorism offences during the last couple of weeks. A Glasgow paedo gang sent to jail (all locals). Plenty of other events too. Nobody says a word. Not even a murmur. The minute there's something that involves the "usual suspects", it's paraded around triumphantly and the pages run for days.

Right wingers aren't concerned about crime, they're concerned about crime when the perpetrators suit their narrative.
 
vigras rojara said:
For sure - I've never said it isn't a problem. I totally agree that it is.

But the solution isn't the far right either. They caused the issue to escalate and now rely on shouting populist rhetoric to gain support, when they themselves know they are utterly incompetent to do anything about it.

Their strategy is working though, as it did with Brexit. You only have to look at the UK Politics thread. We have had some neo-Nazis jailed for terrorism offences during the last couple of weeks. A Glasgow paedo gang sent to jail (all locals). Plenty of other events too. Nobody says a word. Not even a murmur. The minute there's something that involves the "usual suspects", it's paraded around triumphantly and the pages run for days.

Right wingers aren't concerned about crime, they're concerned about crime when the perpetrators suit their narrative.
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First its the Jews on Saturday then its the Christians on Sunday.
 
Hopefully no knives or cars at Christmas markets in Europe this year...
 
Ragnarök said:
If they don't mention it , then you know he is not white
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I read a missing person's report where they described a girl who was reported as missing in Mosselbaai. They omit skin colour there as well. The photo was posted in the comments, how idiotic. From the description, you could never guess it was a black girl that went missing.

That would have narrowed any attempt at searching for her down considerably, but no. Or, perhaps it was not omitted on purpose.
 
vigras rojara said:
For sure - I've never said it isn't a problem. I totally agree that it is.

But the solution isn't the far right either. They caused the issue to escalate and now rely on shouting populist rhetoric to gain support, when they themselves know they are utterly incompetent to do anything about it.

Their strategy is working though, as it did with Brexit. You only have to look at the UK Politics thread. We have had some neo-Nazis jailed for terrorism offences during the last couple of weeks. A Glasgow paedo gang sent to jail (all locals). Plenty of other events too. Nobody says a word. Not even a murmur. The minute there's something that involves the "usual suspects", it's paraded around triumphantly and the pages run for days.

Right wingers aren't concerned about crime, they're concerned about crime when the perpetrators suit their narrative.
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Right wingers are overwhelmingly hard on crime.
They vote for tough on crime policy.

Leftists vote for soft on crime policy.

Look at Bukele from El Salvador. Who are the ones celebrating his country’s victory over criminals?
 
konfab said:
Right wingers are overwhelmingly hard on crime.
They vote for tough on crime policy.

Leftists vote for soft on crime policy.

Look at Bukele from El Salvador. Who are the ones celebrating his country’s victory over criminals?
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Bollocks.
Right wingers are just hard on crime when it suits their narrative.
Trump is a convicted felon and the right wingers still voted for him.
 
konfab said:
Right wingers are overwhelmingly hard on crime.
They vote for tough on crime policy.

Leftists vote for soft on crime policy.

Look at Bukele from El Salvador. Who are the ones celebrating his country’s victory over criminals?
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They say they are, but are they in reality? El-Salvador is not the world.

Right wingers voted to escalate the small boat problem that the UK has.

Right wingers voted a convicted criminal into the US presidency. Who then pardoned and in some cases hired criminals.

Yup, tough on crime they are.
 
vigras rojara said:
They say they are, but are they in reality? El-Salvador is not the world.

Right wingers voted to escalate the small boat problem that the UK has.

Right wingers voted a convicted criminal into the US presidency. Who then pardoned and in some cases hired criminals.

Yup, tough on crime they are.
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How many boats were they sending back before brexit?
 
vigras rojara said:
Ask the Farage fans why they voted for Brexit, which ended the right to send the small boats straight back to where they originated.

You expect me to vote for the stupid cnut that escalated the problem in the first place?
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Boris negotiated the Brexit deal, not Farage.

Secondly, go do some research of how many migrants were actually returned under Dublin.

Nope, the small boats crisis is a lack of political will from the UK political establishment.
 
The_Right_Honourable_Brit said:
Boris negotiated the Brexit deal, not Farage.

Secondly, go do some research of how many migrants were actually returned under Dublin.

Nope, the small boats crisis is a lack of political will from the UK political establishment.
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Farage was one of the driving forces behind the brexit vote. The negotiation ****up was just the cherry on the cake.

You really need to stop mentally fellating the worst politicians.
 
The_Right_Honourable_Brit said:
Boris negotiated the Brexit deal, not Farage.

Secondly, go do some research of how many migrants were actually returned under Dublin.

Nope, the small boats crisis is a lack of political will from the UK political establishment.
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Exactly, but who was in power at the time? If they chose not to use Dublin that was their problem. Plus it's not difficult to see that the increase in boat arrivals is because the Dublin rule no longer exists.

Farage might not have negotiated Brexit, but he sure as hell drove it. And not for the benefit of the British people. As always with that grifter.
 
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