Matrix Warehouse/ Rektron Warning

HideInLight said:
How much did you push that CPU?
If that power supply overstated it's continuous power output and you take into account it's 70%? efficiency it might of been pushed right to the edge.

Guess I won't be recommending that PSU for a GPU that requires two 8 pins. The only reason I got mine, because it was like R625 at the time with kalahari voucher and because it was blue.

PS. That RM1000 has 83.3A on the 12v and it's gold rated.
996w

Man, that's overkill.
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CPU is running ar 4.9 Ghz
 
HideInLight said:
How much did you push that CPU?
If that power supply overstated it's continuous power output and you take into account it's 70%? efficiency it might of been pushed right to the edge.

Guess I won't be recommending that PSU for a GPU that requires two 8 pins. The only reason I got mine, because it was like R625 at the time with kalahari voucher and because it was blue.

PS. That RM1000 has 83.3A on the 12v and it's gold rated.
996w

Man, that's overkill.
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Overkill but that's a good thing, over specced means less fan noise, or even any fan at all (hybrid fan PSUs).
 
Why are people factoring in the efficiency of the PSU? That will only change the amount drawn from the wall, not the amount the PSU is specified to deliver
 
Archer said:
Why are people factoring in the efficiency of the PSU? That will only change the amount drawn from the wall, not the amount the PSU is specified to deliver
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Some people seem to associate efficiency with current delivery capability, see it quite often on the internets.
 
Check the forum for my post related to Matrix.
They gave me the run around for months.
Eventually I went to pickup my card and branch had closed down.
I had to again go through the process with a different branch and even had to bring my pc for testing at Rectron because they said the card was fine which it clearly wasn't.
After months of trouble and me proving the card issue was theirs and not mine, I managed to get my GPU replaced but they gave me a 2nd hand card not even in a box with burn marks on it.
I demanded a new one and they finally replaced it with an upgraded GPU that wouldn't even turn on.

In the end however I did get a new card sealed in a box and it worked and has been for the last 2 years.
 
dualmeister said:
You took advise from a sales consultant?

:wtf:
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haha yeah I did...he sold me...I'm a sucker all the while I said I think it's not good enough.....he just kept saying 'trust me I have friends using this psu and they have rigs much bigger than yours'

He also told me something else...I have a samsung w365 printer and the ink ran out on it within a month of buying it(color printer) I told him it was ridiculous because to buy this same printer would cost me 1500 and to just fill the cartridges up costs the same if not more....he then proceeded to tell me that new printers come with 'starter ink' (ie cartridges are not full) even though my software that came with the samsung showed my cartridges 100% full. He then tried to convince me to buy cartridges saying that I will see the first time I buy proper cartridges(not generic) I will probably be able to do the same amount of printing and the printer will last 3 times as long on ink....

Can anyone confirm or deny this?
 
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GreatGear said:
haha yeah I did...he sold me...I'm a sucker all the while I said I think it's not good enough.....he jsut kept saying 'trust me I have friends using this psu and they have rigs much bigger than yours'
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I once had a "sales consultant" tell me that my fridges built in ice maker did not need to be connected to a water source to make ice.
So it could be worse :p
 
GreatGear said:
haha yeah I did...he sold me...I'm a sucker all the while I said I think it's not good enough.....he just kept saying 'trust me I have friends using this psu and they have rigs much bigger than yours'

He also told me something else...I have a samsung w365 printer and the ink ran out on it within a month of buying it(color printer) I told him it was ridiculous because to buy this same printer would cost me 1500 and to just fill the cartridges up costs the same if not more....he then proceeded to tell me that new printers come with 'starter ink' (ie cartridges are not full) even though my software that came with the samsung showed my cartridges 100% full. He then tried to convince me to buy cartridges saying that I will see the first time I buy proper cartridges(not generic) I will probably be able to do the same amount of printing and the printer will last 3 times as long on ink....

Can anyone confirm or deny this?
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He is correct on that point. Starter cartridges are deliberately only partly full. Otherwise people would buy printers that are cheaper than the cartridges, just to get the more expensive cartridges.
http://ask-leo.com/whats_a_starter_capacity_cartridge_for_a_printer.html
http://www.tonerrefillkits.com/blog/what-is-a-starter-print-cartridge/
 
He's right about the starter toners tend to be more expensive than the actual laser printer sometimes.

I find bigge rigs funny though, since you basically got the cream of the crop already, and if he meant someone running a GTX 980 for example, well those use less power...
 
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HideInLight said:
I have a RX-730ss, think it's the same PSU as OP
It has dual rails, 24A + 24A

The requirements for Op's card is 46A (650W PSU minimum)

Sorry but the PSU is spot on with the specs required, that's if you didn't get a faulty one.
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I'm sorry, but you might want to test that. Raidmax PSUs are dog ****. Utter, steaming, unbelievable dog ****.

@OP, I registered here just to tell you to take that PSU back to Matrix, find the person who recommended it to you and don't stop bashing until he stops twitching. Anybody who recommends a Raidmax for a gaming rig- wait scratch that, anybody who recommends a Raidmax is either downright malicious or so stupid they should not be suffered to live. In future always check the Tom's Hardware PSU Tier List for decent PSUs and try to buy only Tier 1 or 2 PSUs.

I run a little computer repair business for my community in my spare time and most of the time when people bring in a dead PC it's because of a cheap PSU. Huntkeys PSUs especially, seeing as they are widely available in SA. These PSUs are rarely able to put out the wattage on the box and when they age their components degrade and they put out less and less and one day they just die, often taking other hardware with them. Now as much as I hate Huntkey, Raidmax is just so much worse. At least a Huntkey will die quietly. A Raidmax might just start spewing flames before it does. I would still recommend using a Huntkey temporarily if your PSU fails and you're waiting for a new one, but I will never under any circumstances recommend you put a Raidmax in a PC. Ever. The best comment I've heard to describe Raidmax was "I like fireworks. Just not under my desk."

People in general just do not understand the importance of buying a proper PSU. They build R10k or R15k PCs and then cheap out when it comes to the PSU.
 
HideInLight said:
Unless he's running some overclocked power hungry AMD and dozens of fans/harddrives/LEDs alongside it, the PSU should of handled the load.
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A proper PSU with those specs, maybe. Not a Raidmax. The components use in those PSUs are the cheapest you'll find, hence why the PSUs are so cheap. I'd be surprised if a 730W Raidmax can put out 600W.

I would not even tell Hitler to put a Raidmax in his PC.
 
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Mike Hoxblack said:
A proper PSU with those specs, maybe. Not a Raidmax. The components use in those PSUs are the cheapest you'll find, hence why the PSUs are so cheap. I'd be surprised if a 730W Raidmax can put out 600W.

I would not even tell Hitler to put a Raidmax in his PC.
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They basically claiming 478watts for the 12V rails.
GPU: 300w
CPU: Non OC around 90w

So it could in theory work, but it's a gamble due to the quality of the PSU.
At least I can vouch for it running a R9 270x and stock i5 3rd gen, it can do that at least...

I would have to be intoxicated and the pc would of had to be on a stock i5 before I would of personally attempted using that PSU with that card though.

I like to play it a little save.
 
Archer said:
Why are people factoring in the efficiency of the PSU? That will only change the amount drawn from the wall, not the amount the PSU is specified to deliver
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PSU's that don't go through the Bronze 80% test are the ones that tend to overstate their continuous output the most, so it's often a good idea to assume it just gives you 20% less outright.

So even if it's not technically correct, it's proven to be a good indicator.
 
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