[May 2013..Dec 2013] The Gauteng E-tolling Thread

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Garyvdh said:
After sending the letter, JPSA received a response before noon on Friday from Werksmans Attorneys, acting on behalf of Sanral, chairman Howard Dembovsky said in a statement.
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We should make a list of any and all companies involved with the e-toll projects including those who defend this system and make damn sure that those companies don't get a single cent worth of business ever again.
 
Garyvdh said:
Lawyers representing the SA National Roads Agency Ltd (Sanral) have threatened legal action following a request for clarification on e-toll prosecutions, Justice Project SA (JPSA) said on Monday.

This follows JPSA stating on Friday they had addressed a letter to Sanral CEO Nazir Alli, Transport Minister Dipuo Peters, Justice Minister Jeff Radebe, and National Director of Public Prosecutions Mxolisi Nxasana.

The letter asked for details of the exact legal and administrative processes that would be followed for the collection of e-tolls and against those who did not pay.

If this was not forthcoming by noon on Friday, JPSA's attorneys would approach the High Court for clarity.

After sending the letter, JPSA received a response before noon on Friday from Werksmans Attorneys, acting on behalf of Sanral, chairman Howard Dembovsky said in a statement.

They were told among other things that Sanral was not in a position to clarify matters reported by members of the media, where such clarity should be sought from the reporters concerned.

All the information JPSA sought was contained in the various government gazettes about e-tolls, and should an application be brought to the courts, Sanral would seek a costs award against JPSA, with "such an application... an outright abuse of process".

"Whilst JPSA is not in the least bit disused to being outwardly insulted by Sanral, we cannot fathom why it would be that they and their lawyers would seek to completely fail to answer a single question [and] further threaten us in writing," said Dembovsky.

"All we are doing is seeking clarity from the parties who are directly involved in e-tolls as to what processes will be used in the prosecution of e-toll transgressions".

Apart from the fact that motorists were not legally obliged to get an e-tag or register with Sanral, none of the information JPSA sought clarity on was contained in any of the government gazettes, it said.

Furthermore, it was "unreasonable", "sarcastic" and "childish" of Sanral to say JPSA should approach journalists to clarify reports which resulted from statements made by Alli, Sanral spokesman Vusi Mona and Peters, among others.

"If they are suggesting that the various parties have been 'misquoted' then they should say so and rather clarify the situation themselves, since they are in the best position to do so," said Dembovsky.

"Due to the fact that people are being threatened with the imposition of criminal records against them, we feel that it is not in the least bit unreasonable of us to seek clarity on how and when this will happen."

The threat of a costs order against JPSA was also another demonstration of the bullying tactics used by Sanral throughout the process.

"As a result, and because we are reasonable people, we have asked our legal team to again write to the various parties to request a proper, intelligible and sensible response from them."

Should their response not be satisfactory, JPSA would consider approaching a high court for clarity on this matter.

On November 20, Peters announced that the e-tolling of Gauteng's highways would begin on Tuesday.

Mona was not immediately available for comment.


Source : Sapa /aw/aa/jje
Date : 02 Dec 2013 08:22
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What on earth is their problem?????? JPSA wanted info!

If SANRAL wants people to comply, surely it would be in their best interest to supply clear and detailed info?
 
blunomore said:
What on earth is their problem?????? JPSA wanted info!

If SANRAL wants people to comply, surely it would be in their best interest to supply clear and detailed info?
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When the system you are trying to shove down people's throats is so badly designed and efficient, you have to try and do everything in your power to hide the information and prevent it from coming to light...
 
Has DJ posted his PDF booklet here already?

Sorry, but I haven't checked back in the thread for his previous posts.
 
FF Plus in last minute bid to halt e-tolling

Members of the FF Plus held placards outside the High Court in Pretoria on Monday ahead of the party's last-minute attempt to stop the implementation of e-tolling.

"Stop e-tolls, stop e-tolls, stop e-tolls," the placards read.

There were around 15 members, in Freedom Front Plus attire outside.

Last week, the party's spokesman Anton Alberts said he was confident of victory in its application, claiming the state had made critical technical errors with the announcement of the implementation date of e-tolls.

He said in terms of the Sanral Act, there had to be a 14-day difference between the date on which the commencement of e-tolling was announced, and the date on which the system was implemented.

He said the system was only meant to start operating on December 4, not December 3. On November 20, Transport Minister Dipuo Peters announced that e-tolling of Gauteng's highways would begin on Tuesday.


Source : Sapa /mar/aa/th/jje
Date : 02 Dec 2013 10:24
 
So, what was gov's reason for not using the fuel levy to finance this? I know it was debated but I still did not here the actual reason.
 
DJ... said:
They don't care. They really don't. They knew the public perception risks beforehand, and this won't impact their corporate business in any way...
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Then let it affect their non-corporate business.
 
AlphaBravo said:
So, what was gov's reason for not using the fuel levy to finance this? I know it was debated but I still did not here the actual reason.
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The money from the fuel levy has been re-directed for years now back into the general fiscus.
They are too lazy to fix their accounting and to allocate it properly to road maintenance.
And why bother doing that, when they can just introduce a new "tax" that will bring them more Lolly cash.
 
It sadly won't, but showing disgust I certainly support. Not knocking the initiative...
 
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