Mbeki takes Eskom blame

He is falling on his sword for some odd reason. Not entirely fair as Eskom should take the blame too. What does Mbeki expect now? Maybe for us to say, "how noble!"?

To heck with that! He is to blame, but so are the Eskom execs. What kind of low life, zero spine creatures are they to allow government to tell them, no?!!?

Did they run to the media, the courts or any other institution to get this catastrophic decision by government rethought? NO!

Why is this?

Because the level of leadership runs about as deep as snake crap on a tevlon coated cooking pan...
 
He wants to go out as a martyr, and not be remembered as the man who dropped the ball on SA.
 
Hmmm, I have thought about this for a bit.
Emotions aside:

This could be a good thing - a "watershed" moment in South Africa.
It makes me positive enough that I may actually try arguing from the Pro-ANC viewpoint for a bit this morning. :D

If they, sorry, WE are willing to admit to this as a mistake, what else?
Will we now admit that crime is a problem and needs to be addressed? That corruption is a mistake we need to rectify NOW. That health needs to be fixed, and that we are not above listening to the voices of others.
Will we even drop AA in favour of merit based appointments?

I am bursting with optimism to see how this goes - and I do not mean that in the slightest sarcastic way.
 
If he is really sorry, we should hear about some solutions in the near future, hopefully.
How about subsidizing solar panels? Might not be as efficient as we want them to be, but it will help.
Let people sell power back to Eskom. Not a new idea, countries in Europe already do this.

There is plenty more things government can do, to encourage people and business to help themselves. They just need the will to do it. Think about the good of the country for a change.
 
Nod said:
If he is really sorry, we should hear about some solutions in the near future, hopefully.
How about subsidizing solar panels? Might not be as efficient as we want them to be, but it will help.
Let people sell power back to Eskom. Not a new idea, countries in Europe already do this.

There is plenty more things government can do, to encourage people and business to help themselves. They just need the will to do it. Think about the good of the country for a change.
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His top priority right now is probably his presidency......
 
Yeah it's a step in the right direction. Some presidents would resign though after a blunder of this magnitude... But I guess a president with that sort of integrity wouldn't make such a f...up in the 1st place...
 
Atleast He's now admitting how wrong they were, its a start!. So what if it makes him look good! As long as Government and Eskom fixes their mistake and resolve our crisis, then who cares if he comes across as the night in shiny armor!. Perhaps this could be a good thing!.
 
what about government fixing gas prices? I had just renovated my kitchen and when purchasing the new appliances i thought about gas stoves and ovens but guess how much it is to buy gas? ........ :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: works out to R18 a kg of gas which makes it around 10 times more expensive then using electricity, guess what, i got an electric one.

Now how's that for demand side management, its really strange how government just doesn't get it, every minute they waste now "waiting" for results from pilot projects are sending consumers over to buying something that could have been gas but electric instead. I'm sure we're all very very eager to work together to make sure we don't get load "shredded" but government can't expect us to fork out the extra rand on our side to fix their mistake (ok that is not including the extra power prices we'll pay this year). I just hope this regulated lpg price isn't going to be like "setting up a competition to telkom"...... so god damn loooonnnnnggggg
 
Moederloos, it's good to have hope. The problem is with this country and all countries, a crisis is what the media decides it is. Whatever sells the most editions.

IMHO, Mbeki is hoping to quell the public by admitting blame. This in turn will take the heat off the issue and the media will find something else to focus on, and so too, the public. Don't expect an apology for the state of crime; don't expect an apology for the state of HIV medication in this country; don't expect an apology for all the corruption around what went down with Selebi or Zuma or Shaik, or jnust corruption in general in this country. Expect nothing else until it affects millions of lives the way this electricity issue has. Only then will the powers that be fess up and do something, through the pressure of the media. When you think about it, an apology isn't actually doing anything about the situation. We still don't have enough electricity.
One other thing about this country; someone can take the blame for something, but if there are no consequences, then what does it matter? They get away with it in any case, except if the situation suits their needs. Watch Sky News when the politicians have their meetings in the house of lords, or commons or whereever. They basically boo the prime minister on live TV and this leads to change. That is what this country's leaders need, some humility on the top levels to make these people realise they work for us, not vice versa.
There's still loads of things to be 'moederloos' about in this country. ;)

Anyway, it is probably evident by now that i didn't do law or politics at any level and these are just my feelings, with no intention of offending anyone.
 
I think alot of people on here on being a little unfair. Basically with those people he was "damned if you do and damned if you don't ".

He has taken responsibility for the action, he could have easily blamed others, but he has taken ownership of this problem. The fact that he has done this will mean that the problem will be resolved. I would MUCH rather a presidency make mistakes and admit to them than deny that there were a problem.

Besides all this in a way he was right about capacity. This is not a capacity problem, but more of a maintenance issue. Has anybody thought of the poswsibility that Eskom is making the situation seem worse than it truley is to garner support for more financing?

I find it strange that there are power cuts ALL DAY, rather than just at peak times? We even had one at 4am the one morning?
 
How many more 'Im sorrys' are there hiding in the closet?
Water, sewerage, roads, rail?
 
"We said not now, later. We were wrong. Eskom was right. We were wrong."

By "we" he means the "ANC". The ANC should be held completely responsible for this, and should be held financially accountable for this.
 
w1z4rd said:
"We said not now, later. We were wrong. Eskom was right. We were wrong."

By "we" he means the "ANC". The ANC should be held completely responsible for this, and should be held financially accountable for this.
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Yes, they should be.

But will they pay for the losses incurred?
 
Snotface said:
Moederloos, it's good to have hope. The problem is with this country and all countries, a crisis is what the media decides it is. Whatever sells the most editions.

IMHO, Mbeki is hoping to quell the public by admitting blame. This in turn will take the heat off the issue and the media will find something else to focus on, and so too, the public. Don't expect an apology for the state of crime; don't expect an apology for the state of HIV medication in this country; don't expect an apology for all the corruption around what went down with Selebi or Zuma or Shaik, or jnust corruption in general in this country.
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Its a "foot in the door". I can only hope the media pushes it wider. Strikes while the iron is hot and so on. Pressure him on crime, make it known that the question is really "If you were wrong about leccy, what makes you confident you are not wrong on other issues?"

Byrd said:
I think alot of people on here on being a little unfair. Basically with those people he was "damned if you do and damned if you don't ".
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Agreed. I am FAR from pro-ANC, but I agree. Don't kick a man when he is down - but do make sure that while he is down, he surrenders fully. No point turning around and allowing him to knife you in the back, either.

Sneeky said:
How many more 'Im sorrys' are there hiding in the closet?
Water, sewerage, roads, rail?
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There should be plenty.
 
From the media we know that a lot of people are responsible for a lot of bad things, but no one is ever held accountable, unless it suits the political needs of the few.

- Never before, in the history of man, has so much been taken, from so many, by so few.
 
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