Men are Screwed (rule 43)

[rietrot]

If maintenance is based on a fair formula is the women mostly getting the kids also a fair formula

Yes the women mostly getting the kids is fair. And that's not even the case anymore, these days the courts like to do shared custody.

 

[Swa]

A Toxic Mother Can Cause Just As Much Damage As An Absent Father

Toxic mothers distort an image of love and replace it with fear.

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[rambo919]

I think feminists usually call that victim blaming.

He was asking to be screwed in the courts by getting married in the first place.

If he didn't want to get raped in divorce court, he would never have asked her to marry him.

How cute. The men have to hitch onto feminist talking points to make some kind of argument. How is placing blame on the seemingly incompetent attorney victim blaming? Zarnicate is the victim of poor legal counsel, and should seek better advise. No where did I say divorce rape is fine because he had a bad attorney.

Everything said in this thread about his predicament is pure speculation, and even most of his accounts about his friend are anecdotal, and hearsay.

Four things I would like to point out here:
* Every is back to childish bickering and essentially calling the other side poopoohead.
* There seems to have been no "hitching onto talking points" but actually a mockery of feminist double standards.
* Real marriage is rare these days with people essentially deciding who they feel like living with for the next few years and then divorcing as soon as "for worse" actually hits. The well being of children obviously does not matter to them because divorce is just a part of modern life and a good learning experience or whatever.... it can't possibly lead to long term suffering.
* If you so frivolously enter into marriage then yes you actually are asking to be divorce raped.

 

[Emjay]

Yes the women mostly getting the kids is fair. And that's not even the case anymore, these days the courts like to do shared custody.

But all judges are biased, and women don't spend maintenance money on their kids.

You cannot reason with these male feminists, just like their female counterparts.

 

[rambo919]

But all judges are biased, and women don't spend maintenance money on their kids.

You cannot reason with these male feminists, just like their female counterparts.

Male feminists are worse, they either have a predatory angle or are pathetic sycophants. Reason is literally against their interests.

 

[Aquila ka Hecate]

Male feminists are worse, they either have a predatory angle or are pathetic sycophants. Reason is literally against their interests.

No such thing as a male feminist.
Feminism is a movement for women, about women.
Men can be feminist allies.
I'm speaking for 2nd-wave feminism now, not this "you're a woman if you say you are" 3rd-wave nonsense.

 

[Emjay]

No such thing as a male feminist.
Feminism is a movement for women, about women.
Men can be feminist allies.
I'm speaking for 2nd-wave feminism now, not this "you're a woman if you say you are" 3rd-wave nonsense.

They are Men's Rights Activists. I cannot distinguish them from female feminists, because they sound the same, just pushing for their own gender.

 

[rambo919]

No such thing as a male feminist.
Feminism is a movement for women, about women.
Men can be feminist allies.
I'm speaking for 2nd-wave feminism now, not this "you're a woman if you say you are" 3rd-wave nonsense.

Allies for benefits then?

 

[rambo919]

They are Men's Rights Activists. I cannot distinguish them from female feminists, because they sound the same, just pushing for their own gender.

So basically Communists vs Fascists?

 

[Swa]

No such thing as a male feminist.
Feminism is a movement for women, about women.
Men can be feminist allies.
I'm speaking for 2nd-wave feminism now, not this "you're a woman if you say you are" 3rd-wave nonsense.

Feminism is a mindset. Not about what sex the person is.

They are Men's Rights Activists. I cannot distinguish them from female feminists, because they sound the same, just pushing for their own gender.

I've always argued for equal rights and equal treatment. Not one gender's rights over another. Sadly that is what feminism is doing and what everyone here is speaking out against.

 

[rietrot]

They are Men's Rights Activists. I cannot distinguish them from female feminists, because they sound the same, just pushing for their own gender.

The problem with MRA on the Internet though is that it is highly hypothetical worst case scenarios that they push all the time as if it is that bad for everyone and it is the norm that men(which are supposed to be stronger and better at most things. the "superior" gender) are being oppressed be these weak, fat and ugly faminazi's.

It is exactly the same argument used by weak neo-nazi losers that lack a strong identity and culture.

Sure there is a bit of a cultural war going at the moment in politics. But playing the victim and pretending to be a victimised minority is just sad.

 

[rambo919]

Feminism is a mindset. Not about what sex the person is.


I've always argued for equal rights and equal treatment. Not one gender's rights over another. Sadly that is what feminism is doing and what everyone here is speaking out against.

Yep equal starting point not equal end point and equal rules for everyone with no handicaps except at the starting point.

 

[Emjay]

The problem with MRA on the Internet though is that it is highly hypothetical worst case scenarios that they push all the time as if it is that bad for everyone and it is the norm that men(which are supposed to be stronger and better at most things. the "superior" gender) are being oppressed be these weak, fat and ugly faminazi's.

It is exactly the same argument used by weak neo-nazi losers that lack a strong identity and culture.

Sure there is a bit of a cultural war going at the moment in politics. But playing the victim and pretending to be a victimised minority is just sad.

But, if men don't get sex, things could get really violent. And, women being financially independent means more competition for the men. And, women have not EARNED their right to vote.

Where is your empathy, man! They have a harder time than women. They are entitled to your empathy.

 

[Emjay]

* If you so frivolously enter into marriage then yes you actually are asking to be divorce raped.

And here I was accused of blaming the victim when I suggested Zarnicate get a better attorney.

Boyos, are you not going to call him out for victim blaming?

 

[rambo919]

I am beginning to suspect @Emjay of simply being bored and trolling....

 

[rambo919]

And here I was accused of blaming the victim when I suggested Zarnicate get a better attorney.

Boyos, are you not going to call him out for victim blaming?

And what exactly makes you think he even has the level of money needed to lawyer-shop? Or that the bias of the judge did not enter into it? So many assumptions here.

 

[Emjay]

I am beginning to suspect @Emjay of simply being bored and trolling....

I actually asked a legit question. How are you not victim blaming.

There cannot be any sort of double standards here, can there? No way.

 

[Emjay]

And what exactly makes you think he even has the level of money needed to lawyer-shop? Or that the bias of the judge did not enter into it? So many assumptions here.

Please explain how believing the judge is biased is not an assumption?

 

[Gingerbeardman]

I am beginning to suspect @Emjay of simply being bored and trolling....

Wasn't it obvious?

 

[rietrot]

But, if men don't get sex, things could get really violent.

That is true, but it is mostly their own fault for having unreasonable standards. You see plenty of losers only interested in women that's at least a 7/10 when they themselves are 3/10.

The easiest way to get sex is to know what league you are playing in, and somehow some of these guys haven't learned this important life lesson yet.

And, women have not EARNED their right to vote.

We certainly need some qualifying criteria for giving people votes. But I don't think there's any reasonable argument to decide that on gender.

Where is your empathy, man! They have a harder time than women. They are entitled to your empathy.

I have empathy. It must really suck to be an incel and I feel sorry for them. That's part of the reason for my comments. I'm only trying to help them. Some of the arguments like above contain small snippets of truth, but it's mostly BS.