Same thing here. Runs from 4.30 am to 6am so we can go to work, school etc. Off till 9.30 (so pv can charge the battery), then on till 3pm so kids can have their evening baths.
The problem is when i have a 4 to 6am LS slot...
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The problem is when i have a 4 to 6am LS slot...
Mike Hoxbig
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That early morning LS slot is the issue. That's why I run it for an hour after everyone baths in the evening, and switch off at 10. Can lower this to 8pm with minimal impact.
If there's an outage at least it's still hot in the morning. If not then it's just a small top up for like 15 minutes between 5-6 am. If there's an evening outage then the morning switch-on will cover it...
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How crap is your geyser? 
, In fact I think you need to play more 
Family of four here. We have two geysers. Kitchen and bathrooms .
The bathroom geyser runs for 3 hours a day (12pm-3pm) . Kitchen geysers is turned on for 2 hours on specific days.
We shower kids at night and then we adults shower in morning. Still have enough hot water in the morning for both of us.
Of course , I played a lot to understand minimum heating time which has worked well and WAF (wife approval factor) has been passed.
Geyser only gets extra run time if we have guests staying over. I have a binary switch in hass, which if toggled is then used by an automation to turn on the bathroom geyser at 4am-6am for the boost. Just realised , I could use presence detection to see that if someone is on guest WiFi at 4am - turn on.
As an aside,, we never had electricity for 27 hours past weekend , and still managed to shower kids about 24 hours after geyser was last on in the evening. Water was still warm! I was surprised we still had hot water considering wife and I had showered that morning thinking that was it. Wife had warmed water on gas stove to wipe the kids down, but ended up not being required.
, In fact I think you need to play more Family of four here. We have two geysers. Kitchen and bathrooms .
The bathroom geyser runs for 3 hours a day (12pm-3pm) . Kitchen geysers is turned on for 2 hours on specific days.
We shower kids at night and then we adults shower in morning. Still have enough hot water in the morning for both of us.
Of course , I played a lot to understand minimum heating time which has worked well and WAF (wife approval factor) has been passed.
Geyser only gets extra run time if we have guests staying over. I have a binary switch in hass, which if toggled is then used by an automation to turn on the bathroom geyser at 4am-6am for the boost. Just realised , I could use presence detection to see that if someone is on guest WiFi at 4am - turn on.
As an aside,, we never had electricity for 27 hours past weekend , and still managed to shower kids about 24 hours after geyser was last on in the evening. Water was still warm! I was surprised we still had hot water considering wife and I had showered that morning thinking that was it. Wife had warmed water on gas stove to wipe the kids down, but ended up not being required.
You have got this right clearly. What geysers and thermostat temps?How crap is your geyser?
Family of four here. We have two geysers. Kitchen and bathrooms .
The bathroom geyser runs for 3 hours a day (12pm-3pm) . Kitchen geysers is turned on for 2 hours on specific days.
We shower kids at night and then we adults shower in morning. Still have enough hot water in the morning for both of us.
Of course , I played a lot to understand minimum heating time which has worked well and WAF (wife approval factor) has been passed.
Geyser only gets extra run time if we have guests staying over. I have a binary switch in hass, which if toggled is then used by an automation to turn on the bathroom geyser at 4am-6am for the boost. Just realised , I could use presence detection to see that if someone is on guest WiFi at 4am - turn on.
As an aside,, we never had electricity for 27 hours past weekend , and still managed to shower kids about 24 hours after geyser was last on in the evening. Water was still warm! I was surprised we still had hot water considering wife and I had showered that morning thinking that was it. Wife had warmed water on gas stove to wipe the kids down, but ended up not being required.
Same here, geyser blankets work to keep the water hot for longer.How crap is your geyser?
Family of four here. We have two geysers. Kitchen and bathrooms .
The bathroom geyser runs for 3 hours a day (12pm-3pm) . Kitchen geysers is turned on for 2 hours on specific days.
We shower kids at night and then we adults shower in morning. Still have enough hot water in the morning for both of us.
Of course , I played a lot to understand minimum heating time which has worked well and WAF (wife approval factor) has been passed.
Geyser only gets extra run time if we have guests staying over. I have a binary switch in hass, which if toggled is then used by an automation to turn on the bathroom geyser at 4am-6am for the boost. Just realised , I could use presence detection to see that if someone is on guest WiFi at 4am - turn on.
As an aside,, we never had electricity for 27 hours past weekend , and still managed to shower kids about 24 hours after geyser was last on in the evening. Water was still warm! I was surprised we still had hot water considering wife and I had showered that morning thinking that was it. Wife had warmed water on gas stove to wipe the kids down, but ended up not being required.
Mike Hoxbig
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200L geyser, no blanket yet but that's next on my list.How crap is your geyser?
Family of four here. We have two geysers. Kitchen and bathrooms .
The bathroom geyser runs for 3 hours a day (12pm-3pm) . Kitchen geysers is turned on for 2 hours on specific days.
We shower kids at night and then we adults shower in morning. Still have enough hot water in the morning for both of us.
Of course , I played a lot to understand minimum heating time which has worked well and WAF (wife approval factor) has been passed.
Geyser only gets extra run time if we have guests staying over. I have a binary switch in hass, which if toggled is then used by an automation to turn on the bathroom geyser at 4am-6am for the boost. Just realised , I could use presence detection to see that if someone is on guest WiFi at 4am - turn on.
As an aside,, we never had electricity for 27 hours past weekend , and still managed to shower kids about 24 hours after geyser was last on in the evening. Water was still warm! I was surprised we still had hot water considering wife and I had showered that morning thinking that was it. Wife had warmed water on gas stove to wipe the kids down, but ended up not being required.
You also clearly got lucky with a SO who doesn't literally spend 45 minutes in the shower...
Mike Hoxbig
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On a side note I think I've gotten it more or less right. Geyser kicks in and only drains 3% battery from 48% to 45% SOC...
SauRoNZA
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So the way I get around load shedding somewhat is that I have it default to power state ON.
Then in Node Red I have a timer for 1 1/2 hours delay to monitor whenever the geyser goes on, to turn it off again.
Does a pretty good job of not overrunning, but of course it means that middle of the night it would eat some battery.
Can probably fix that by applying a time range to the flow.
I also have presence detection turning it off, but will probably stop using that once I have PV installed.
SauRoNZA
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200L geyser, no blanket yet but that's next on my list.
You also clearly got lucky with a SO who doesn't literally spend 45 minutes in the shower...
That’s a lot of wanking time.
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Bathroom one is Kwikot 200L, Kitchen some insurance replacement, 100L .. Temps I honestly don't know but if after 3 hours, bathroom geyser water seems hot enough to make a cup of tea.
Forgot to mention/consider that. I had installed blankets and insulation on the hot water pipes across the house in the roof (myself nogal) . When the pink aerolites guys did their stuff last year, they did the cold water pipes as a courtesy.
My SO can spend 20 mins in there, but it has to be boiling hot. So far no complaints. Thankfully, we never use the baths in our house. 5 years here, and it's only be used for the kids when they want to have a bubble bath200L geyser, no blanket yet but that's next on my list.
You also clearly got lucky with a SO who doesn't literally spend 45 minutes in the shower...
Well I'm up in the ceiling this weekend with the geyser blanket and pipe insulation so let's see if that's the magic formula
This stuff
SauRoNZA
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Very lucky that I have no copper in my entire house.
Only the initial sections at the geyser which were easy to just wrap up in spare sections of geyser blanket.
General question - how long does the average home installation take? Basically to install 8 panels, inverter and 1 battery?
Busy with my installation now on day 5 and still doesn't seem they will be done today. Granted my install maybe isn't as straightforward as it could be but just curious on others experiences
Busy with my installation now on day 5 and still doesn't seem they will be done today. Granted my install maybe isn't as straightforward as it could be but just curious on others experiences
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Our first install - inverter, 1 battery + 8 panels was done in 1 day. They started at 9am and finished around 6. Adding a 2nd battery + 8 more panels took about 4 hours 2 months later
5 days is a lot - what are the issues?
Mike Hoxbig
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Generally it's one day to install and one day to wire.
Mine took 4 days because they started just before the weekend and there were some issues with the weather...
There has been rain which delayed the panels, then there is the space between the DB and where the inverter is, so have to run all the cabling through the roof from the kitchen to the garage. Then few other factors but seems like a long time