More UFO files published

mercurial said:
Because they fear ridicule? Because they fear throwing away a life of hard work and reputation?
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Ah so those who admit aliens are fearless mavericks while those who deny are cowards. Got it.
 
Nanfeishen said:
One needs to understand that there are many ways people can be kept quiet, through the signing of acts, such as the Patriot Act, National Security Acts, Official Secrets Acts, etc etc and also through financial gain, threat of imprisonment, financial loss, gag orders there are many ways to influence people and to "persuade" them it is in their best interests not to disclose or divulge sensitive information.
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Too far off the deep end...
 
killadoob said:
Not sure how you interprete as that icyrus but anyhow all to their ow i guess.
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That is exactly what is being suggested. That the only people who are being honest about what is going on is those who agree with his world view. The others are too scared, or part of the conspiracy etc.

Given two opinions from equally qualified people, he chooses to believe the one who agrees with him, because they agree with him.
 
Some people know that by saying this or that about aliens it will be laughed off, so they do not bother, not because they are worried but because they know nothing will come of it.
 
icyrus said:
Too far off the deep end...
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Really?

Ever looked into the secrecy surrounding the Manhatten Project?
The Culture of Secrecy and the Nuclear Age
http://www.reachingcriticalwill.org/technical/factsheets/secrecy.html

Or how about the Enigma CodeBreakers, who are only now being recognised and honoured for their actions in WW2 due to the Offical Secrets Act of certain activities during WW2 being released.

July 10, 2009
Enigma codebreakers of Bletchley to be honoured
After many years of having to keep their critical wartime work top secret, it is tremendous that this contribution has finally achieved recognition
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6677618.ece

More than 10,000 people worked at the centre in Buckinghamshire and other listening stations
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1198582/Recognition-Enigma-codebreakers.html

!0 000 people and they kept it secret for all these years, many of those people took their secret to the grave with them in the years since the war.

Never underestimate the lengths and breadths that governments and corporations will go to to keep their secrets.
 
See you start off doubting and try disprove it. no one will be able to prove their picture or video is real because everyone will say it is not and find some arb reason why it is not real.

Case closed.
 
O yea all the okes who do not believe will right this off as rubbish i bet you.

Thanx for the link flanders, flippin awesome well for us who believe we may not be alone.
 
There's also this one. Either Buzz is a senile ol' bugger or he really wants us to know about something. I don't know. Anyway, from the horse's mouth...

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDIXvpjnRws[/ame]
 
Flanders said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlkV1ybBnHI
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Sigh...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzz_Aldrin#UFO_claims

In 2005, while being interviewed for a documentary titled First on the Moon: The Untold Story, Aldrin told an interviewer that they saw an unidentified flying object. Aldrin told David Morrison, an NAI Senior Scientist, that the documentary cut the crew's conclusion that they were probably seeing one of four detached spacecraft adapter panels. The crew was told that their S-IVB upper stage was 6,000 miles away. However, the panels were jettisoned before the S-IVB made its separation maneuver, so this panel would closely follow the Apollo 11 spacecraft until its first midcourse correction.[29] When Aldrin appeared on The Howard Stern Show on August 15, 2007, Stern asked him about the supposed UFO sighting. Aldrin confirmed that there was no such sighting of anything deemed extraterrestrial, and said they were and are "99.9 percent" sure that the object was the detached panel.[30][31][32]
Interviewed by the Science Channel, Aldrin mentioned seeing unidentified objects, and he claims his words were taken out of context; he asked the Science Channel to clarify to viewers he did not see alien spacecraft, but they refused.[33]
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Further reading:
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/firstonthemoon.html
 
i've seen an alien, i fact its like the loch ness monster

/points to pants
 
His words taken out of context?

How do you take those words out of context, this is exactly my point once again.

They more than likely saw it and told him he had better retract what he said. There is always an answer for every sighting, for every video and picture, some story about what it actually is.
 
killadoob said:
His words taken out of context?

How do you take those words out of context, this is exactly my point once again.

They more than likely saw it and told him he had better retract what he said. There is always an answer for every sighting, for every video and picture, some story about what it actually is.
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How is that more than likely? And who are they? And what exactly would they do if he didn't?

Some people...
 
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icyrus said:
Sigh...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzz_Aldrin#UFO_claims
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Yes. I've read that too.

Strange though how the story varies and how it has only relatively recently come to light. If you search on youtube, you will find many versions of the story from Buzz himself. In some he clearly plays it down with using the "panel" version while others (like the one I've posted) are not quite as clear cut.

Why would Aldrin need the Science channel to clarify his views? Why not go on CNN and clear up any misconceptions and set the world straight in no uncertain terms? If he has done so...cool. Let's see it.

Then there's this monolith thing he talks about...what's up with that? Another misquoted "swamp gas" story?

Either way, I'm just in here to stir the pot a little and keep the debate going. ;) I do find what he says interesting but I don't necessarily take what he says as gospel. I just like to keep an open mind about the whole thing.
 
Flanders said:
Yes. I've read that too.

Strange though how the story varies and how it has only relatively recently come to light. If you search on youtube, you will find many versions of the story from Buzz himself. In some he clearly plays it down with using the "panel" version while others (like the one I've posted) are not quite as clear cut.
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That "documentary" is a joke, as witnessed by that clip.

Flanders said:
Why would Aldrin need the Science channel to clarify his views? Why not go on CNN and clear up any misconceptions and set the world straight in no uncertain terms? If he has done so...cool. Let's see it.
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When people use clips of you to deliberately mislead their viewers you may want them to own up to it and fix their bullsh*t.

Flanders said:
Then there's this monolith thing he talks about...what's up with that? Another misquoted "swamp gas" story?
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No idea, but nothing he said has anything to do with aliens as far as I can tell.
 
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