More UFO files published

killadoob said:
How would you get high quality photos?

Should we all walk around with hd camera's incase we spot an alien?
I will put my house on the fact that if someone captured a quality picture of an alien, people would right it off as a hoax and photo chopped.
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my phone takes pretty good snaps and none are out of focus.
 
killadoob said:
How would you get high quality photos?

Should we all walk around with hd camera's incase we spot an alien?
I will put my house on the fact that if someone captured a quality picture of an alien, people would right it off as a hoax and photo chopped.
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There is almost 7 billion people on the planet. It's plain statistics. Hundreds of millions of video cameras / cellphones / digital cameras etc out there. How do people get photos of rare animals? How did the coelacanth get caught?

You're telling me there are all these mass sightings where 1000's of people see huge UFO's hovering over major cities for hours yet not one takes a decent picture? Come on man. Try harder.
 
Generally rare animals are snapped because people are in the area and taking snaps of animal life, how many people carry a camera around in case they spot an alien? hahaha.

O i think i will carry my 5mp camera everywhere i go in case i see a ufo, try harder.

http://www.alien-ufo-pictures.com/alien_pictures2.html

Of course you will tell me every single picture on there is faked. That is the problem every time we see an alien picture it is labeled as fake.
 
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killadoob said:
Generally rare animals are snapped because people are in the area and taking snaps of animal life, how many people carry a camera around in case they spot an alien? hahaha.

O i think i will carry my 5mp camera everywhere i go in case i see a ufo, try harder.

http://www.alien-ufo-pictures.com/alien_pictures2.html

Of course you will tell me every single picture on there is faked. That is the problem every time we see an alien picture it is labeled as fake.
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LOL - an ad on that site "Generate your own electricity FOR FREE"

http://www.magniwork.com/default.php?hop=gray26


Nuff said.

Another one: "Make $10 000 a month from home"

Dear lord.
 
killadoob said:
Generally rare animals are snapped because people are in the area and taking snaps of animal life, how many people carry a camera around in case they spot an alien? hahaha.

O i think i will carry my 5mp camera everywhere i go in case i see a ufo, try harder.

http://www.alien-ufo-pictures.com/alien_pictures2.html

Of course you will tell me every single picture on there is faked. That is the problem every time we see an alien picture it is labeled as fake.
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Not all those pictures are faked and some of the non-faked ones are not what they seem.
And a lot of the "archelogical proof" are interpretations of what is being depicted.

http://www.alien-ufo-pictures.com/alien_pictures5.html
This one is one of those...I mean a bit of a stretch now is it not.

People want to see what they want to see.
 
killadoob said:
http://www.alien-ufo-pictures.com/alien_pictures13.html

Check that skull man and read the caption. I dunno hey kage i reckon non believers just right off anything alien straight off the bat so as i said you could have an hd film of an alien saucer and the non believers would right it off as a hoax.
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You want it too much, so you discount reason and fact.

It is called "Head Binding" or "Head Moulding"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_flattening

The earliest known culture to bind their children's heads were the ancient Egyptians of the third millennium BC. The practice was also known among the Australian Aborigines, Maya, and certain tribes of North American natives, most notably the Chinookan tribes of the Northwest and the Choctaw of the Southeast.
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I don't want it, i just keep my mind open to the possibility and i do not right it off because i don't want to believe.

I am going to watch Nostradamus tonight, that looks very interesting how he would know or the mayans would know what is coming :)

Something about the milkyway blocking the sun in 2012 and the chaos that will ensue, now i have not seen it but i am not sure how they would have been able to see it. May be a bunch of crap to sell movies and books hahaha will see in 2012 i guess :D
 
Read the book "The Doomsday Conspiracy" by Sidney Sheldon. At the end, He has a list of around 100or so british, american and other scientist who died under suspicious circumstances after investigating, or approving or commenting positively to the existance of aliens. It was published in 1991.

It's a brilliant book nonetheless, well written and its the book/author whose style Dan Brown now mimics.
 
why would some tribe go and want to elongate a childs head and why would egyptions go and wear some sort of head gear to make their heads look elongated maybe they saw something or someone who had an elongated head in the past and that person could be an alien.

why would some tribe take a piece of wood/branch from a tree and make as though it was a gun or thunder stick unless they saw some white man walk around the bush with a rifle and shoot at them.
 
TMoose said:
So what you're saying is that the US government is so awesomely good that not even one 16 year old with a hi-def video cam anywhere in the world has ever snuck a decent clip on to youtube?

They control the world so well that if I took a photo of a legitimate alien spacecraft tomorrow, it would only be released when they wanted it to by their careful UFO disclosure project and my colour image would only reach the masses in 50 years time?

This is laughable to say the least.

The idea of life on other planets isn't ridiculous.
The idea that they're flying god knows how many lightyears across the vastness of space to mutilate our cattle and draw pictures in our corn is.

If aliens were really visiting earth there would be real, solid, scientifically verifiable evidence for them. There isn't. There would be a steady stream of undeniable high quality photos and videos coming in from across the globe.

There isn't. What we have instead is a bunch of fat Americans weepingly telling us about how metal objects were prodded up their rear ends and drawing classic Hollywood spacemen to identify their supposed attackers.

With millions of amateur astrologists pointing powerful telescopes at the sky ever single day you'd think somebody would have seen something convincing by now. Yet they never do.

Aliens visiting earth is about as believable as bigfoot.
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Yes, it does all seem a bit odd, but I would like to point out that these sightings and experiences, have been experienced all over the world and not only by US citizens.

It is difficult to imagine that the media is owned, or that the media is regulated or worse that the science we have been fed has also been censored. (for our own good).

It is a terrifying thought that such vital information could have been kept from us, through a relentless campaign of discrediting and disinformation by the CIA and governments in the know.

What is even more astonishing is that sane, educated astronauts like Ed Mitchell and Buzz Aldrin have admitted that these crafts exists, that their are extraterrestrials present in the local galaxy and nearby.

Why would they and thousands of other perfectly sane people, lie ?

Is it not possible that new rules have been applied to our upper airspace,
did the US military not design a special aircraft to do just that ?

Perhaps these craft are less visible, perhaps they now use some form of technology to better hide themselves (shields we cant photograph), and we can only snap then when the shield is down ?

I agree that the lack of information is frustrating and I also don't understand why or how information available from commerical astro photographers and astronomers could have kept such a secret.

Yet, there is enough other cicrumstantial evidence in both history, archaeology and recent human witness to take this Disclosure event
seriousely and find out as much about it as one can, to ease the mind.

Can we see aircraft from the ground that are flying at cruising altitude ?

How far can we see and how far can our average digital camera see ?
How high does a alien ARv normally fly, when are they snapped ?
(departing after loading water ?) when is the shield down ?
 
wrathex said:
Yes, it does all seem a bit odd, but I would like to point out that these sightings and experiences, have been experienced all over the world and not only by US citizens.
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One mistaken sighting and a million people making a mistaken sighting has one thing in common.

It is difficult to imagine that the media is owned, or that the media is regulated or worse that the science we have been fed has also been censored. (for our own good).
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It that what you suggest is true, then maybe, but it has to be true, for which the proof is in much doubt.

It is a terrifying thought that such vital information could have been kept from us, through a relentless campaign of discrediting and disinformation by the CIA and governments in the know.
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Again claims with no proof, by saying CIA hid it, no proof is needed from your side, because everyone knows that the CIA lies.

What is even more astonishing is that sane, educated astronauts like Ed Mitchell and Buzz Aldrin have admitted that these crafts exists, that their are extraterrestrials present in the local galaxy and nearby.
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If Buzz and Ed really did say that how come they have not been having to fight off TV reporters wanting to interview them all over the world, oh yes, the CIA hid it.

Why would they and thousands of other perfectly sane people, lie ?
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To get on TV, 15 minutes of fame. Is that so hard to understand?

Is it not possible that new rules have been applied to our upper airspace,
did the US military not design a special aircraft to do just that ?
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Possible, yes, but super claims need super evidence, we waiting... Oh yes, the CIA hid it.

Perhaps these craft are less visible, perhaps they now use some form of technology to better hide themselves (shields we cant photograph), and we can only snap then when the shield is down ?
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To much SciFi, do you even understand how impossible it is to "project" a force field as described in StarTrek. By shield it is meant a wall stopping things from passing though it, like a window or side of a house. In other words there is a gap between the space ship and the shield. Now how does one project this force field leaving this gap between the force field generator and the field itself. Not having this gap, will cause everything inside the force field to stop or do whatever the force field is designed to do. Think magnetic field, it runs from the magnet outwards until it get totally weak and disappears. Inside that area, it attracts metal objects. Now how would you create a gap inside there to allow metal objects not to be attracted. and still have metal being attracted outside that gap?

I agree that the lack of information is frustrating and I also don't understand why or how information available from commerical astro photographers and astronomers could have kept such a secret.
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If there are really no fairies at the bottom of the garden, then there really would be no real photographs of them....

Yet, there is enough other cicrumstantial evidence in both history, archaeology and recent human witness to take this Disclosure event
seriousely and find out as much about it as one can, to ease the mind.
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Evidence can only be trusted based on it's quality, and the further back in time one goes, the worse the understanding of the world was, therefore natural events will be misunderstood, and even corrupted, for example the alleged Star of Bethlehem,

Can we see aircraft from the ground that are flying at cruising altitude ?

How far can we see and how far can our average digital camera see ?
How high does a alien ARv normally fly, when are they snapped ?
(departing after loading water ?) when is the shield down ?
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47 assumptions here with little or no proof offered.
 
*SIGH* People are in denial. There are thousands of images, videos and eye-witness accounts, including former astronauts who have all said that intelligent alien beings exist. You people should stop living in denial.
 
I can show you a picture of a John Deer Tractor, and a picture of a UFO, and guess which one will be poor evidence. Not because we disbelieve, but because of the quality. I saw a BMW outside my bed room window, just now. That is an eye witness account, how do you know that it is true? It could have been an Audi, that I mistook for a BMW. Either way you can not prove that I am incorrect, so my claim to have been visited by a BMW has to be disregarded.

Now if I had a live Skype feed of the BMW outside my window, then the quality of my evidence improves, but is still open to questions. Only by failing to disprove that there is a BMW outside my bed room window, will my claim be considered to be valid.

Besides in the long term, it does not matter, either we will learn the truth or we will not.
 
Don't worry about it Balstrome, your cynicism and rational approach is valid.

I have not seen a ufo myself or met with an extraterrestrial, yet I am happy enough with the circumstantial evidence, you obviousely have higher standards of logic that you apply, good for you.

The documents I have read and the witness accounts by sane officials & people from all over the world has convinced me.

This is the first time in many decades as an atheist and extremely cynical person that I have turned my attention to an issue of this nature, I do not confess my interest in this issue lightly and I am so convinced of the witness's and circumstantial evidence that I am willing to speak out about it.

- I don't fear being rediculed because of it
- I don't fear loss of respect

I definately do not expect you to 'believe in' what I am saying, I'm just sharing my experience of this bizarre phenomena.

However there is a big difference between listening to an astronaut today talk about these things and: for instance reading an ancient document written by men thousands of years ago (bible).

It was easy to dismiss god as manmade, this one I'm afraid is not so easy to dismiss and warrants a closer look.
 
wrathex, we have been over this evidence time and again, and it generally leads nowhere. The astronauts claims, either are deliberate misquotes or are take out of context, or total lies. Even Buzz says, there was a BMW on the moon and he saw it, just because he is an astronaut and has walked on the moon, does not mean that he should be believed.

What in fact you and others are suggesting is that the vast majority of rational people who have investigated these old claims, and they are old, have made mistakes. And so we must re look at the evidence again to see if there is anything to them. There comes a time when testing has proved either positive or negative results. Redoing them is just a waste of time.

If you do decide to relook at the evidence, also look at the testing of the evidence, in fact do that first, and that will save you a lot of time.
 
wrathex said:
However there is a big difference between listening to an astronaut today talk about these things and: for instance reading an ancient document written by men thousands of years ago (bible).

It was easy to dismiss god as manmade, this one I'm afraid is not so easy to dismiss and warrants a closer look.
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The time that has elapsed since something was written has no bearing on the information it conveys. Since, after all, it's written :D
By comparison, listening to an astronaut today while he discusses what he saw 20 years ago would be a little less accurate (but not inacurate).

If it is easy for you to dismiss God it has far greater implications of your trust in other people's eye witness accounts.

Most of the world believe in some sort of 'greater being' and WILL attribute some aspects of what they encounter in life to that. So what you are saying is that you will NOT believe any of that and you have the insight to distinguish accurately; therefore you are willing to trust their accounts on other things?

Either you havent thought this through as clearly as you indicate or you are dismissing God for the wrong reasons and as such it is clouding your judgement. Surely you can't dismiss most of the world about the most fundamental thing that they agree on (faith/religion) yet see value in the UFO claims of a relative minority (by comparison)?
 
wrathex said:
The documents I have read and the witness accounts by sane officials & people from all over the world has convinced me.
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And yet none of these sane officials & people ever take photos, or if they do it's of blurry unrecognizable objects or hubcaps. It's much like people still clinging to crop circles, despite the fact that people have created them in a few hours, on camera for various TV shows. Not to mention that the same crop circles were then proclaimed authentic by "experts" in the field (pardon the pun).

There are plenty of sane officials & people that claim to have seen everything from big foot to the Loch Ness monster, faeries, ghosts and leprechauns. They also don't have any proper evidence, mostly because there is none.

Something as big as this would be impossible to hide. In fact, the aliens wouldn't be sneaking around on the planet for more than 60 years (some claim thousands) and yet not make their presence known. What purpose would that serve? Do they really love our livestock and corn that much?
 
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:rolleyes: I'm sure the people who worked for NASA are just making schit up, because they're bored. I mean, it's not like they've ever been inside NASA :rolleyes: It's not like they have their entire professional and social reputation to ruin :rolleyes:
 
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