Morne Steyn vs Ruan Pienaar

Who is the best flyhalf and should wear the Nr. 10 Springbok jersey?

  • Morne Steyn

    Votes: 145 78.0%
  • Ruan Pienaar

    Votes: 41 22.0%

  • Total voters
    186
Morne Stein got selected for the S14 and bulls on his ball handling and distributing skills, he developed his kicking game later.
The current Bok plan is to kick the ball MS is following the game plan, maybe wait for a game where the bigger plan is to run the ball instead of kicking it to judge him?
Ruan have a lot more experience and we have seen him in action quite a bit more, but in all honesty he never really stood out (part from recently where he seems to not be able to handle the pressure, in my opinion).
MS had a great first few games breaking a few records, while he is doing good why not stick with him? Ruan still is a great player to have on the bench and can substitute any position in the backline.
 

Ah, ok fair enough, so you watched, couldn't stomach what you were seeing, so fast forwarded to the end... fair enough. It is a bitter pill to swallow when you see your idol reduced to a mere mortal.

Out of interest does this, very limited, argument of yours mean we should get Butch back? 53-8 Oh no wait, you would not want that... he was a Shark!
 
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Yeah they won 29-17

Oh, CC, the 2nds lost to Griquas 24-15, what's your point?

Ok, sandmanm...wait wait wait

i'm not for this "the bulls players scored all the points for the Springboks, or the Sharks players scored all the points in the RWC final" THEY ARE SPRINGBOKS, AND ONLY SPRINGBOKS

i.e. THE SPRINGSBOKS SCORED 29 POINTS THIS WEEKEND!!!!

please don't bring provincialism into the Springsboks

ok, moving on...
 
Ah, ok fair enough, so you watched, couldn't stomach what you were seeing, so fast forwarded to the end... fair enough. It is a bitter pill to swallow when you see your idol reduced to a mere mortal.

Out of interest does this argument of yours mean we should get Butch back? 53-8 Oh no wait, you would not want that... he was a Shark!

Butch James will never lift Mornè out of the no10 jersey on current form.

Same with Schalk Burger, there is no way he will lift Brusso out of the no6 Jersey.

*And I'm a massive Schalk Burger fan*
 
I saw MS score 24 points and dictate the game with his kicking boot.

I also saw him being involved in some great runs (pieterson making the one break was the direct result of MS skipping jean dV).

What more do you want from a Flyhalf? He defends, dictates the game, and he converts pressure into points...... something RP failed to do.

This is big boy rugby lance not the 2nd teams of the local primary school derby that we are talking about.

At the moment MS is miles ahead of RP. Even the stats prove it :rolleyes:
 
Butch James will never lift Mornè out of the no10 jersey on current form.

Same with Schalk Burger, there is no way he will lift Brusso out of the no6 Jersey.

*And I'm a massive Schalk Burger fan*

Yip, I am in agreement but Sand was implying only the result is important and in Sept last year, with Butch, an in your face aggressive running, hard tackling flyhalf, the exact opposite of Morne, at the helm we managed to beat Aus 53-8....
 
Ah, ok fair enough, so you watched, couldn't stomach what you were seeing, so fast forwarded to the end... fair enough. It is a bitter pill to swallow when you see your idol reduced to a mere mortal.

Out of interest does this, very limited, argument of yours mean we should get Butch back? 53-8 Oh no wait, you would not want that... he was a Shark!

well, i didn't watch the bulls game [was @ oppikoppi :D], but even if i watched and they lost, that wouldn't have mattered, as you don't win the currie cup in august!

It is good for the bulls team to loose [a lot of youngsters in there now, and they need to learn the ropes]

as for butch, i was a big fan on him as well, and he was a good flyhalf.... you don't see us bitching and moaning about his tackling issues etc etc... we remember butch for being a awesome flyhalf when we needed him to be one...
 
Ah, ok fair enough, so you watched, couldn't stomach what you were seeing, so fast forwarded to the end... fair enough. It is a bitter pill to swallow when you see your idol reduced to a mere mortal.

Out of interest does this, very limited, argument of yours mean we should get Butch back? 53-8 Oh no wait, you would not want that... he was a Shark!
And there in lies the rub. You assume 1. that I am a Bulls supporter and 2. am against the Sharks, well, I am neither, I support the Lions and I support the best man for the position and that is the difference between you and me...
 
Ok, sandmanm...wait wait wait

i'm not for this "the bulls players scored all the points for the Springboks, or the Sharks players scored all the points in the RWC final" THEY ARE SPRINGBOKS, AND ONLY SPRINGBOKS

i.e. THE SPRINGSBOKS SCORED 29 POINTS THIS WEEKEND!!!!

please don't bring provincialism into the Springsboks

ok, moving on...
Excuse me but where did I say "the Bulls player scored all the points for the Springboks blah blah blah"...

Where did I bring provincialism into the Springboks?

Oh and for the records Percy learn't his trade in the Western Cape and played most of his rugby there so I would consider him a Weepee before a Shark...
 
Excuse me but where did I say "the Bulls player scored all the points for the Springboks blah blah blah"...

Where did I bring provincialism into the Springboks?

Oh and for the records Percy learn't his trade in the Western Cape and played most of his rugby there so I would consider him a Weepee before a Shark...

ok, i prob misread the 29-17 score, and someone asked what the bulls did.... if thats not how you intended it.. sorry, but i do know of a few guys that do do that (Will say the Bulls scored all the points for the Springsboks, one guy even did his fb status as Bulls 29 - 17 Australia... i was piss'd off! fscking hate that)

anyhow, moving one.... :o
 
At least he's playing:p

I nearly fell of my chair :D

Also here are a few comments I found really funny from another thread:

Hell I laughed soooo much.
Actually, the Springboks could play Steyn and Pienaar at flyhalf. Given that Steyn is one-dimensional, he could hide behind Pienaar and nobody would see him.

This is so true:
If "one-dimensional" is what's needed to beat the British and Irish Lions and the All Blacks, then really: why worry about having someone with a plethora (sic) of other skills?
 
Interesting stat on the overall list of top point scorers in the Sprinkbok jersey...

Top 5:
PLAYER T C P D Pts
1. Percy Montgomery 23 148 130 6 819
2. Naas Botha 2 50 50 18 314
3. Joel Stransky 6 30 47 3 240
4. Braam van Straaten 1 20 54 0 207
5. Joost Van der Westhuizen 38 0 0 0 190

and then...
Jean de Villiers 17 0 0 0 85
24. Ruan Pienaar 6 7 13 0 83
25. Francois Steyn 5 8 11 3 83
26. Morné Steyn 1 3 23 1 83
 
First TriNations vs NZ:

01:15 - RP misses a sitter
04:40 - RP misses a sitter
11:12 - RP misses a sitter
15:57 - RP misses a sitter
23:45 - RP misses a sitter
37:30 - RP misses a sitter
38:00 - RP hurts himself
38:01 - Crowd relieved
40:15 - RP (sitting) looks genuinely disappointed as MS kicks a bugger.

Actually, I made those up. RP is brilliant, like a shiny white colgate smile. Of course, colgate smiles don't score points.

My favourite statistic from this year's S14

SEMI-FINALS won:
RP = 0
MS = 1
 

Ha ha ha what convenient quoting! If you actually quoted my full post you will see that the numerous words prior to that line were all relevant to the thread topic.... unlike this post of yours which should belong in your "I like to follow LancelotSA around and troll whenever he posts" thread.

Oh and by the way I just pointed out in the tri-nations thread that you should perhaps keep your Ruan snipes in this thread alone.

You must sit all day trying to decide what to say next as your responses are very slow....
 
Ha ha ha what convenient quoting! If you actually quoted my full post you will see that the numerous words prior to that line were all relevant to the thread topic.... unlike this post of yours which should belong in your "I like to follow LancelotSA around and troll whenever he posts" thread.

Oh and by the way I just pointed out in the tri-nations thread that you should perhaps keep your Ruan snipes in this thread alone.

You must sit all day trying to decide what to say next as your responses are very slow....

Nope, take 30 sec to read the continued crap and respond in 5sec but then get on with life in general.
 
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