MotoGP 2025

Title defence already on the back foot

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Mzezman said:
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Some real 'wait, who?!' names up there. Zarco, Miller, Mir, Vinales, Marini to name a few really impressing. Can Zarco keep that gap or have the Ducatis got something in the tank.

Also, as if things weren't bad enough at KTM, Pedro Acosta now being linked to a possible Ducati switch in 2026. Apparently VR46 is knocking at his door. Last thing he needs is these kinds of distractions.
 
Agent_Smith said:
Some real 'wait, who?!' names up there. Zarco, Miller, Mir, Vinales, Marini to name a few really impressing. Can Zarco keep that gap or have the Ducatis got something in the tank.

Also, as if things weren't bad enough at KTM, Pedro Acosta now being linked to a possible Ducati switch in 2026. Apparently VR46 is knocking at his door. Last thing he needs is these kinds of distractions.
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This really is going to be the Ducati championship - i also saw somewhere that Enea is trying to get out of his KTM deal ASAP and head back to a ducati ride - crazy

Really chuffed for Zarco - dude has been settled and quick on that Honda since end of last season. Lets see how the next session (@ 8pm) goes
 
Mzezman said:
This really is going to be the Ducati championship - i also saw somewhere that Enea is trying to get out of his KTM deal ASAP and head back to a ducati ride - crazy

Really chuffed for Zarco - dude has been settled and quick on that Honda since end of last season. Lets see how the next session (@ 8pm) goes
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The risk for these riders wanting to leave for potentially greener pastures is that there is no guarantee that the teams they want to go to (Ducati in this case) are going to nail the new 2027 regs. The last thing Acosta (or the Beast) would want is to jump ship, just as (hypothetically) KTM sets off like the proverbial house on fire in 2027. I'd be very surprised if KTM took either of them back if they bailed on them once.

Assuming there is fire amongst the smoke regarding these rumours, Acosta and Bestia have some serious thinking to do.
 
Agent_Smith said:
The risk for these riders wanting to leave for potentially greener pastures is that there is no guarantee that the teams they want to go to (Ducati in this case) are going to nail the new 2027 regs. The last thing Acosta (or the Beast) would want is to jump ship, just as (hypothetically) KTM sets off like the proverbial house on fire in 2027. I'd be very surprised if KTM took either of them back if they bailed on them once.

Assuming there is fire amongst the smoke regarding these rumours, Acosta and Bestia have some serious thinking to do.
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It's ok for Pedro Acosta to jump ship, he's still young and can make changes as he sees fit.

At this point in time KTM is just on a knife's edge, it could go either way in the next two years, and I reckon some will stick around and just be patient and see how it plays out, it might just be a blessing in disguise, but 2027 seems pretty far away for anyone associated with KTM at this stage, and who knows, they still might pull out as well if the finances deteriorate further to the point of no return. Their debts are huge, and even paying back a smaller percentage might not solve the overall problem, it's just a temporary solution. I can't see how they can turn this around.
 
MaxQz said:
It's ok for Pedro Acosta to jump ship, he's still young and can make changes as he sees fit.

At this point in time KTM is just on a knife's edge, it could go either way in the next two years, and I reckon some will stick around and just be patient and see how it plays out, it might just be a blessing in disguise, but 2027 seems pretty far away for anyone associated with KTM at this stage, and who knows, they still might pull out as well if the finances deteriorate further to the point of no return. Their debts are huge, and even paying back a smaller percentage might not solve the overall problem, it's just a temporary solution. I can't see how they can turn this around.
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Yeah KTM are in big trouble and for many riders are not an option given all the uncertainty - just as F1 has done i think MotoGP needs to try and get another manufacturer in the mix - BMW / Kawasaki / maybe even try get Suzuki back
 
Mzezman said:
Yeah KTM are in big trouble and for many riders are not an option given all the uncertainty - just as F1 has done i think MotoGP needs to try and get another manufacturer in the mix - BMW / Kawasaki / maybe even try get Suzuki back
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I've always been curious why Kawasaki hasn't been in MotoGP for many years now, but with them it's all about results. They did brilliantly in SBK with Johnny Rea for a number of years.

Suzuki on the other hand, they always pop in, pop out, never long term commitment as well, so I doubt they would return any time soon, but again, they want results.

BMW, that would be ideal, maybe 2027 for them.
 
What a ride Frankie and Digi on the VR46. Another great one by Ogura as well leading the Aprillia charge

It’s not looking good for anyone else at the moment with the pace the Marquez brothers have… Pecco has a real problem on his hands

Edit: also really nice to see Zarco in the top 10
 
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Brad probably did as well as he could. Even if he qualified better the ones that finished in front of him would've passed him anyway. Did well to keep Dig behind him for as long as he did :) Do not see KTM finishing higher than that this season, Acosta included.
 
I see Ai Ogura got disqualified for running non homologated software on his ECU.
And he is doing so well.
 
I have to admit I'm finding it really dull this year aside from Practice, Q1 and Q2. My main interest is seeing the progress of Ogura, Bez, Mir and Zarco in the races.

Hoping the second third of season will be better with Pecco finding a setup, Jorge back and the Hondas getting even better.
 
MaxQz said:
I've always been curious why Kawasaki hasn't been in MotoGP for many years now, but with them it's all about results. They did brilliantly in SBK with Johnny Rea for a number of years.

Suzuki on the other hand, they always pop in, pop out, never long term commitment as well, so I doubt they would return any time soon, but again, they want results.

BMW, that would be ideal, maybe 2027 for them.
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Toward the end of last year Kawasaki reiterated that they have no interest in returning to MotoGP, citing prohibitive costs to be competitive. Their WSBK successes have come at a fraction of the cost making up the numbers in MotoGP does. It is something like $300,000 for a production-based WSBK machine vs over a million for a MotoGP prototype.
 
It seems it's going to be the season of the Marquez brothers, the rest are just fighting amongst themselves for 3rd place. :p

Bagnaia is a distant footnote for now, and I doubt if looking at Marquez's data will help him. :confused:

Great performances from Zarco and the VR46 riders.

My man Ai Ogura being solid in the top 10 showing he belongs up front, but very gutted by the DQ, so how come they have incorrect software on his bike this time, hmmm. :mad:

Then something that really got me p!ssed off in Moto3, and I'm looking for an answer that is legitimate on this one.
How come Furusato got demoted a place for track limits on the final lap and Piqueras not?
I looked at the final few corners and they both went on the green, but Piqueras' was more than Furusato and I don't see how it benefited Furusato more than Piqueras. Am I missing something? :mad::mad:
 
MaxQz said:
It seems it's going to be the season of the Marquez brothers, the rest are just fighting amongst themselves for 3rd place. :p

Bagnaia is a distant footnote for now, and I doubt if looking at Marquez's data will help him. :confused:

Great performances from Zarco and the VR46 riders.

My man Ai Ogura being solid in the top 10 showing he belongs up front, but very gutted by the DQ, so how come they have incorrect software on his bike this time, hmmm. :mad:

Then something that really got me p!ssed off in Moto3, and I'm looking for an answer that is legitimate on this one.
How come Furusato got demoted a place for track limits on the final lap and Piqueras not?
I looked at the final few corners and they both went on the green, but Piqueras' was more than Furusato and I don't see how it benefited Furusato more than Piqueras. Am I missing something? :mad::mad:
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Only rewatched Moto3 now - again a cracker of a race. The one incident i saw of Piqueras - it seemed he was pusched off the track - so maybe mitigation?
 
Didn't think that MotoGP would ever become like F1, but here we are.
I think at this stage they should split MOTOGP into the Ducati Class and have all those riders compete for a championship and then have rest compete in their own championship ...
 
Mzezman said:
Only rewatched Moto3 now - again a cracker of a race. The one incident i saw of Piqueras - it seemed he was pusched off the track - so maybe mitigation?
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Well, at that specific corner where he went onto the green he did that by himself, he definitely was not pushed wide or off there... not to my eyes anyhow. I still don't agree with the decision made, many others on the interwebs say the same thing.

I see Simon Crafar is the new Chairman of Stewards... he probably was afraid to take the win away from Piqueras, being Spanish and all, it's fine to demote a Japanese rider instead. I don't see how Furusato gained anything more on his off on the green than Piqueras did, and not to demote Piqueras as well.
 
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