MTN and Cell C to do battle

Ok so if I have a car and you really really would like to use it. You are the one to tell me how much I must charge you for using my car :confused:

Well when there's only three cars on the road, and the government restricts any new entrants from joining, then yes you do need some form of price regulation.

Anyway MTN can whine how much this is taking money from their affluent target market, but what affluent customer doesn't have their own cell phone and would use one of these CST things.
 
I think you guys are missing the point. It's there for you to use, the price for it is clear. You have the choice to use it or not.... simple

There is limited spectrum. Spectrum that (theoretically) belongs to all of us as the public (since it covers all of our property). The government lets MTN/Vodacom/Cell C use that communal spectrum on condition that we get a decent service. If this was just about their own toys which they could take with them and go home, I wouldn't have a problem with it.
 
CST - 6c per Minute Interconnection Rate

This is an article i am writing to the DOC and Parlimentary Portfolio Committee on Commnunications :

This article is not yet finished !

This is to inform the people of South Africa an all those senior parlimentarians what the Dept of Communications does in relation to the ICT sector with no regard for the benefit of the people. How WAR torn Countries like Rwanda and Angola have surpassed South Africa in the ICT fields. A country like Kenya is moving forward in leaps and Bounds and it will take no more than 2 years to become the ICT hub of Africa. We here in South Africa have been held back by our Dear Communications Minister and her slow pace of getting things done. In South Africa things never get done. South Africa is a country where we Talk yet without Action. Thankfully the ANC’s Polokwane Summit left COMMUNICATIONS Minister Ivy Matsepe-Casaburri out of the Executive list. That is a welcome relief for someone who has handled the Communications sector so poorly.

In Terms of Competition lets see what has been done.

Mobile Sector :

GSM Licences issued to MTN & Vodacom with Spectrum in the 900mhz band and 1800mhz band. Lets make a case in point to note that so much of the 900mhz Spectrum was handed out to the 2 operators that we are not in a position to issue further licences to new operators in the 900mhz band. MTN & Vodacom enjoyed a duopoly and charge execessively high call rates for their services. 14 years on and no reduction in call charges have been noticed. Their financial reports speak Volumes. Thankfully Telkom owns 50% of Vodacom so they are obligated to disclose their Financials because Telkom is a listed entity on the JSE. MTN has listed itself on the JSE so it to is obligated to declare financials. The 900mhz band Supports 5 mobile operators according to EU Frequency planning. Blocks of 10 mhz of spectrum is issued to operators in the 1800mhz band to ensure capacity in CDB areas are well taken care of. Thus creating Dual Band Networks and efficient use of the Radio Frequency Spectrum. Vodacom & MTN have abused the market positions in terms of regulation and have always threatened the regulator with legal action if they did not get their way. Cell-C was licenced as the 3rd mobile operator and has been abused by the incumbents increase of the Interconnection Rates to current levels of R1.25 per minute. Cell-C has failed to provide effective competition in Terms of lowering of Call rates. Call rates in South Africa is astronomically high as compared to the Likes of the United States and India. Our sms rates rank as part of the highest sms rates in the world. With a population of 50 million and climbing. We could sustain 5 mobile operators in the market. With each fighting for a share of 10 million customers of the 50 million users available. The poor management of spectrum handout and the low charges for the spectrum should have carried some Service obligation to the established freehold incumbent networks. African countries with population sizes of less than 10 million have 3 or 4 mobile networks. Kenya will have 5 mobile networks by 2011. They already have 4 Licences there. Rwanda has just issued their 3rd licence and has confirmed they will be issuing the 4th mobile licence in 2009. Angola also has 3 mobile operators and has confirmed it to will be issuing their 4th mobile licence in 2009. Considering our population size we should have adopted the Indian model of issuing 5 licences in the 900mhz band and 5 licences in the 1800 mhz band all to different operators. ICASA has commenced with the review into mobile termination rates. Its gone over 2 years. We the public have no idea when they plan to introduce cost based interconnection. ( This requires priority from ICASA ) They are dragging their feet about it. MTN & Vodacom don’t adjust prices in competition to each other they adjust prices to equal one another.

Solution : moving forward

Icasa recall some of the 900mhz spectrum allocated to MTN & Vodacom and re-issue it to new operators. Preferably 2 new operators be given 5 mhz of 900mhz spectrum with 10 mhz of 1800mhz spectrum. 2 new 3G licences be issued on a national level.

Cost based interconnection be mandated as law based on international trends and norms. ( The mobile operators will have a lot of excuses for their high cost, However this is a load of Bull**** ) Our electricity supply is very stable as compared to most African Countries. Our National backbone is very good and Telkom & Neotel can provide this service at good rates. No security is required at Base Stations like in Nigeria , Kenya and Angola.

Passive infrastructure sharing be mandated as law. i.e masts , Ducts and cabinet space.

Rural roaming be allowed for a period of 10 years.

Operators be instructed to share rural infrastructure. Eg 3 or 4 operators pool together and set up rural masts where they all share those towers.

Incumbent networks allow new operators to utilize their infrastructure in remote, rural areas where less than 1000 people live. Where these towers will provide coverage to new operators for their customers who are passing through the area.


Fixed line :


Kenya opens door to foreign telecoms investors
By: Reuters
Published: 6 Oct 08 - 17:32
Kenya will scrap a law requiring foreign telecoms investors to have local partners because it has choked funding for the fast-growing sector, the government said on Monday.

Previously, foreign firms that wanted to invest in telecoms projects in east Africa's biggest economy needed to find Kenyan partners who would own between 20-30 percent of any venture.

"This rule is messing us up in terms of investments. There are large companies which want to invest in this country without partnering with other individuals," Bitange Ndemo, permanent secretary at the Information Ministry, said in an interview.

"We must do everything to bring more foreign direct investment to this country," he told Reuters. He did not give a date when the change would come into effect.

Ndemo said the government was considering issuing another mobile operator licence in about 18 months time.

"We want those who are in place to recoup their investments, and at the same time we will study the market and see whether it is working efficiently," he said.

Kenya's Safaricom is the market leader followed by Kuwait's Zain. The only fixed-line operator, Telkom Kenya, which is majority owned by France Telecom, launched mobile operations last month under the Orange brand.

A fourth licensee, Econet Kenya, is expected to launch its service in November.

Ndemo said competition was driving down prices for consumers and encouraging providers to expand coverage quickly.

"That is why we predicted that in the next three years we would have more than 60 percent penetration rate, and that would be the highest in Africa," he said.

He said there were now 14 million subscribers in Kenya, out of a total population of about 36 million.

CST – Interconnection Rates are regulated by ICASA and the DOC and is currently at 6c per minute. This is the official figure and NOT 50c per minute. MTN , Vodacom and Cell-C charge R1 per minute on CST Phoneshops. What is the profit margin ? The answer is 1560% per Calling minute. Now heres something interesting to note. Only Cell-C declared that the CST was a huge revenue earner for them.

DXL - Mobile
 
I think you guys are missing the point. It's there for you to use, the price for it is clear. You have the choice to use it or not.... simple

I don't get the NPO argument - Cell C has been unable to compete on price because of the interconnect which was inflated just before they launched.

This means we have a duopoly which leads to inflated prices. I have no problem with people making money - but when they are allowed to abuse a dominant position then I do have a problem with it.

Inter connect should be cost based at 6c and MVNO's should be given access to networks and then we would have choice of service, quality and price. The good guys would make money and everyone would be better off.

If that was the situation - then I'd buy into your above argument
 
I think you guys are missing the point. It's there for you to use, the price for it is clear. You have the choice to use it or not.... simple

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Inter connect should be cost based at 6c and MVNO's should be given access to networks and then we would have choice of service, quality and price. The good guys would make money and everyone would be better off.

I don't think its feasible to have a interconnect rate strongly biased towards the calling provider. If this 6c rate was forced for all calls, and not just for CSTs, you'd quickly spring up a bunch of parasitic "reverse call" services:

1. Call a special number, and give them the phone number of the person you want to call
2. They call you and the other person back and join you together
3. You pay 6c (for them to call you) + 6c (for them to call the other person) per minute
4. The networks gets screwed. Calls which were costing R2.60 are now 12c.

I'm not begrudging the cell phone providers their 50c interconnect fee for regular calls. What is annoying is that no one has wanted to connect under-serviced areas (Telkom, MTN etc). We've struggled for years to get this right. Cell C goes and figures out a business model to get both the less affluent segment of the market connected, AND to actually make it profitable. Now MTN wants to come and moan that they're stealing money away from them, that somehow Cell C is targeting affluent people with payphones?

This is something government has been begging telecoms companies to do. Everyone should be happy that Cell C made it work, and should jump on the bandwagon too.
 
DOC & Regulators

In every other country except SA and i mean SA only. The Doc and the regulators work in the public interest. Here in SA the Doc and the regulator work against the public interest. I believe in my heart mind and soul that alot of politicians bought MTN & Telkom shares. That is the only reason MTN , Telkom and VodaCom are so protected by them.

DxL - Team
 
This is an article i am writing to the DOC and Parlimentary Portfolio Committee on Commnunications :

This article is not yet finished !
Any chance your article will cause policy makers to take action and remedy the situation as you've outlined?

And if so, I guess buying MTN shares would be a bad idea?
 
I think you guys are missing the point. It's there for you to use, the price for it is clear. You have the choice to use it or not.... simple

I don't get the NPO argument - Cell C has been unable to compete on price because of the interconnect which was inflated just before they launched.

This means we have a duopoly which leads to inflated prices. I have no problem with people making money - but when they are allowed to abuse a dominant position then I do have a problem with it.

Inter connect should be cost based at 6c and MVNO's should be given access to networks and then we would have choice of service, quality and price. The good guys would make money and everyone would be better off.

If that was the situation - then I'd buy into your above argument

Ok so lets not build any more towers, cos there is no funds for it. Lets not build on technology as there is no funds for it, damn while we're there lets not make any money back on the money used to build the network. Let's not sponsor any more charity events, let's fire all our staff. But wait, lets not stop there. Let's leave the network to deteriorate into the gates of hell.

While we're at it, let's just leave everything cut the links and move out....

:rolleyes:

You guys are suppose to know how the world works.... I guess for a company to be successfull they should rather just stay out of SA completely
 
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Underserviced areas

mtn do have a point about the location of these CST's.
I have seen many lf these in towns and places that can never be defined as under serviced - I mean an area with 3G coverage cannot exactly be defined as underserviced now, can it?

Well,by 3G coverage,which service provider are you refering to?Vodacom has 3G in almost every small town and even in some informal settlements.The reason Cell C put there CST`s in these areas is most of these areas aren`t even serviced by Telkom.That is how CST was born.MTN are just trying to bully Cell C but lets not mention how much money they owe Cell C.:D
 
MTN a good Investment anytime !

Any chance your article will cause policy makers to take action and remedy the situation as you've outlined?

And if so, I guess buying MTN shares would be a bad idea?

MTN a good Investment anytime ! In all of the markets where MTN operates they have reduced their call rates when competition hit them where it hurts the most. MTN can offer MTN 2 MTN call rates of 50c Tomorrow and MTN 2 others at R1 and still come out smiling.

Why wont they do it ?

South Africans are happy to pay R3 per minute ! Why charge less !

Please Dont forget which company flattened mobile GPRS & EDGE data rates in South Africa ! remember R40 per megabyte Now remember 21c per megabyte !

Also dont forget Which Company covered the whole country first back in 1998 !

Also dont forget that Vodacom Took MTN's weaknesses and turned it around !
Every opportunity MTN turned down Vodacom grabbed with one Hand !

MTN will never make the mistakes they made in the past !

About the new Govt coming April next year !

Maybe just Maybe ( the size of a mustard seed maybe ) The person in charge of the DOC thinks his poor cousins are paying to much for mobile calls.

Things will change for the better !

DXL - mobile
 
proudly South African ripping off the public. proudly ripping off the SA public, mmm smell of a logo there
 
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