MTN saving R286 million from Icasa delay

except that CellC and Telkom can and should bring hellfire to MTN and the damage that the company has made in a set of damning admissions under oath still needs to be fully felt
 
Never had anything to do with MTN, and unlikely I ever will.

My son has an MTN Uncapped Lite contract that ends in April. Doubt he will ever have another MTN sim in his life.
 
Same old ICASA, bowing to the big operators while bulling the smaller ones make some money. Shame on MTN and Vodacom for trying to protrct their monopolies.
 
I love how MTN claims they arent trying to keep the costs high when it is exactly what they are doing.
They stand to lose that much money so obviously they will try fight it, after all its money for nothing.
After 12 years with them I will be cancelling my contract when it comes up in 2 months time, I cant support a company like that.
 
why dont they just go down 5 to 10 cents.

I like people moving away from mtn to voda and then celc and then telkom and then mtn.
Where I work mtn have the best coverage, they use the best radio's "ericsson", so I will stay.
 
NeoAtlas said:
Same old ICASA, bowing to the big operators while bulling the smaller ones make some money. Shame on MTN and Vodacom for trying to protrct their monopolies.
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Not quite sure what you're trying to say here, NeoAtlas. Your grammar could do with some attention :)

"Same old ICASA, bowing to the big operators". Really? Are you sure about that? Let's look at the alternatives: -

  1. ICASA defends the Urgent Interdict on the 25th February, and loses. MTN delays resolution of the determination for somewhere between 18 months and 7 years or more
  2. ICASA removes the need for the Urgent Interdict by postponing the implementation of the regulations by one or two months. ICASA wins the substantive court case

To put this in context:
  • MTN has no doubt been preparing this case since around October last year. ICASA has a few days to brief Senior Counsel on some complex matters. The scales are not balanced
  • MTN has set a trap, hoping to fool ICASA into a hurried and inadequate response
  • Telkom successfully delayed their 2001 Competition Commission case for 7 years, before eventually losing last year. It's not hard to delay. If MTN delays, they effectively win.
  • ICASA has engaged some heavy duty advocates for this case. Given that they're adequately briefed and have sufficient time to understand the issues - and explain them to the judge - the chances are good that they will win, all else being equal.

Perhaps you'd like to revise your opinion of ICASA?
 
we need more facts from ICASA I am afraid before we can reach a conclusion that this isn't cowing down

I fully recognize the trap MTN is trying to set and that removing the urgency aspect is great although same can be done without postponing the kicking in of the regulations if there is buy in from Cell C and Telkom - there is actually in my view a wonderful "solution" that should make everybody sufficiently happy to agree and sufficiently miserable to not consider proposing it.

As I said here
One of the things I am really hoping to establish early next week is what exactly is happening because the announcement on Friday is a little vague - to be honest I'll be quite pissed if ICASA caved for the sake of caving even after it was pointed out that they can make MTNs life hell in court for at least a few hours.
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The simple fact is that ICASA was provided with a straightforward means of tying MTNs urgency component of the application up in court and on the face of it have declined to use it.

What we need to know is what terms are attached to the delay and have MTN agreed to such terms. The papers from MTN are clear that they want an indefinite delay.
 
Article headline dyslexic seems like slightly.

"Icasa’s decision to postpone its mobile termination rate cuts will mean save MTN R286 million in lost revenue"
 
if CellC had a functioning email address for regulatory affairs they would have had a nice email in their inbox on Friday
not reading in the article that CellC will sue ICASA - my reading is the "the company" refers to MTN
 
Paul Hjul said:
if CellC had a functioning email address for regulatory affairs they would have had a nice email in their inbox on Friday
not reading in the article that CellC will sue ICASA - my reading is the "the company" refers to MTN
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You are correct, I Read the article incorrectly. :( (Coffee didn't kick in yet)
 
NeoAtlas said:
Same old ICASA, bowing to the big operators while bulling the smaller ones make some money. Shame on MTN and Vodacom for trying to protrct their monopolies.
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It's just business. There's no love in that world my friend.
 
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