Mugged

[ZA.Schmidt]

I worked under them while a student, ruthless people.

Man! What course were you doing?

 

[Kokop]

Other half says it was definitely a 26, on his right hand (a bit more sketchy on which hand) but on his wrist, the side closest to his pinky finger.



I agree, wholeheartedly.



Yes, obviously he was scared. I like to think that if I saw someone being mugged, raped, whatever, I'd do everything I can to protect them because that victim could be me, or someone I love one day. I'd be scared to, but that doesn't mean I'd do anything less than someone who wasn't. If you just ignore it and let it go unnoticed, what type of person does that make you? I think it's disgusting.

You, gdiza, and people like you have my utmost respect.

To everyone else, thank you for your kind words and optimism - it means a lot.

I know a mugging isn't exactly, "Omg!" news these days, but there's always that possibility of, "What if" and I'm so grateful it didn't come to that and that we have the luxury of thinking, "What if."

Thank you... again.

TBO, I would have walked away, with a view to get behind the MOFO.

I am so sorry this happened to you and your better half.

I know one thing, sometimes fear paralyses one, I hope this was the reason for people walking past.

Seriously, we had an intruder 9 months ago in our flat, I froze, until I had to move.

To be honest, I probably would have walked away (flame all you want), and then tried to get a posse together to make an effort.

Yes I am a Pussie, but guns scare me. But if many can help, the single perpetrator will get nailed.

Collaboration of people is the future, be it IT, or helping each other in SA.

Seriously, If there were 8 guys like me (fat & 6ft4) charging a bastard, I would charge in.

But not alone!!! So, who here would collaborate to take the prick down .

I know this is William Wallas style, but we should stand together.

Or, we desert, and never bother to help each other.

Sorry, some old feeling boiling up.

Fook this, lets help each other when we can, defend ourselves, or...

Piss off to another land.

Lets help each other???

Am I wrong?

 

[Intelligence++]

No way I will bother to help ! put my life (and the life of the victim) at risk for a cellphone? And yes,I carry a gun day and night. I always thought -Oh man,if a serious/violent crime takes place close to me,I will be Rambo himself until,one day (17 months ago) run into a cash in transit sort of thing near Boksburg. Guess what, I was so happy my gun was well hidden and non of the criminals noticed it. The criminals don't really mind if they get liked,life is cheap for them ! In my terms though, no money in the world can pay for someone's life ! And the other issue is the skewed law. If a non violent crime takes place (like in this case) and I 'start' the violence (by shooting or assaulting the suspect), I will be charged and found guilty fullstop. However the Judge will take into consideration the circumstances if he does sentence me ! I know it might sound stupid, but this is the South African criminal law !

 

[Milano]

Nice of him to give the sim card back.

 

[Kokop]

No way I will bother to help ! put my life (and the life of the victim) at risk for a cellphone? And yes,I carry a gun day and night. I always thought -Oh man,if a serious/violent crime takes place close to me,I will be Rambo himself until,one day (17 months ago) run into a cash in transit sort of thing near Boksburg. Guess what, I was so happy my gun was well hidden and non of the criminals noticed it. The criminals don't really mind if they get liked,life is cheap for them ! In my terms though, no money in the world can pay for someone's life ! And the other issue is the skewed law. If a non violent crime takes place (like in this case) and I 'start' the violence (by shooting or assaulting the suspect), I will be charged and found guilty fullstop. However the Judge will take into consideration the circumstances if he does sentence me ! I know it might sound stupid, but this is the South African criminal law !

Somehow I agree with you without agreeing with you, makes no sense eh?

Owning a gun is for a reason, firing it.

I do not own a gun cos if I had one I would use it, yes I am a pussie.

What you stated above is correct, use a weapon to defend yourselves and face the law, total BS. They make the defender (who than can track) the guilty party they investigate, again BS.

Sorry, late at night and its not my place to discuss FA's

Best thing is you still had you "weapon" and long may you conceal it.

K

 

[hj2k_x]

How about baming the bloody mugger?? I don't blame anyone for not helping your boyfriend, SA is a violent country, people have kids and families. I sure as hell would not have put my life in danger to save somebody i don't even know. Call me a coward, but I prefer living life as apposed to being a buried hero.

Such a sad attitude to have. Why do you think crime is so rampant and criminals can just do whatever they want? Because people like you just turn a blind eye and think only of themselves.

Imagine the world if everyone had Gdiza's attitude and actually intervened when a crime was being commtted. Isn't that a place you would want to live? I know I would.

 

[Thestealth]

If he has both numbers tattooded, he's not a real "nommer". He was a "frans"/p*ssy in jail now needs to perform deeds to get some of the respect back. I'm glad your bf is ok and wasn't hurt.

 

[Intelligence++]

Then we will have a world with lots of dead people around ! The State should be the primary protector and not the citizens ! Yes,vigilante groups may help here and there, but certainly won't stop the crime ! You seem to forget, the criminals are human only because their ID books say so ! In reality, they do not reason like humans do, that's why they are where they are in the first place! Is easy to say, YEAH I will do this and that, while sitting in front of you pc ! Wait until you get into a 'real scary situation' and then we chat again !

 

[hj2k_x]

Then we will have a world with lots of dead people around ! The State should be the primary protector and not the citizens ! Yes,vigilante groups may help here and there, but certainly won't stop the crime ! You seem to forget, the criminals are human only because their ID books say so ! In reality, they do not reason like humans do, that's why they are where they are in the first place! Is easy to say, YEAH I will do this and that, while sitting in front of you pc ! Wait until you get into a 'real scary situation' and then we chat again !

As was mentioned above, if you have an attitude like yours then you should not sit around and complain about high crime levels. Apathy is just as deadly as a gun.

I am not saying I will do this and that sitting in front of my PC. I have done it. And will do it again. Imagine the irony if it was to save you.

 

[Gnome]

I have to admit if I was a passer by I would walk away also, even if it was someone I know. And then work out a plan (as well as call the police but we all know how useful that is), I don't have enough confidence in my abilities to take someone on when they have a firearm. Unarmed and/or knife and such is another story.

 

[hj2k_x]

I have to admit if I was a passer by I would walk away also, even if it was someone I know. And then work out a plan (as well as call the police but we all know how useful that is), I don't have enough confidence in my abilities to take someone on when they have a firearm. Unarmed and/or knife and such is another story.

Fair enough. I am not talking about people being foolish or martyrs.

But if someone is being mugged and passers-by literally just pass by and do nothing at all, I think it is a very sad thing.

I am not saying take on some criminal with a gun if you are unarmed. I am saying, people need to take a stance and not just sit back and do nothing as always.

 

[MacNabs]

Such a sad attitude to have. Why do you think crime is so rampant and criminals can just do whatever they want? Because people like you just turn a blind eye and think only of themselves.

Imagine the world if everyone had Gdiza's attitude and actually intervened when a crime was being commtted. Isn't that a place you would want to live? I know I would.

Blind eye? The country is in its current state because of the government, Criminals can do what they like because the government is allowing them to do so, not because there are not enough good Samaritans running around.

Sure, here in NZ if I had to ever witness a crime taking place I would jump to help, chances are I will come out alive. Not have my head blown off. In SA its a very different story, you dealing with hard arse criminals who will shoot you for the fun of it. SA is like a war zone I am afraid, each person to themselves, otherwise you just asking for ****. My guess is that if somebody had to help out in this case, that person would have been dead. The whole conflict would have ended up much worse, maybe a few people dead, who knows...

Ask yourself, what exactly do you expect the other people to do? This guy had a gun and had very clear intentions of using it.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Ask yourself, what exactly do you expect the other people to do? This guy had a gun and had very clear intentions of using it.

Been thinking about that a lot since last night. You know, I can't help thinking that something as simple as someone (specifically that guy who saw my fiancé mouth, "help me") just walking up to them, seeing my babe and just pretending to be long lost friends or something daft - ignoring the mugger and say, "Hey, I just remembered! There's something I want to show you!" What would the mugger have done? Shoot them or get confused and walk off? Obviously that wasn't his intention since my babe still has a pulse.

Let me rephrase... I don't expect someone to just pounce the mugger or whatever... But to just walk past? Not even call the police? Not do anything? How do you live with yourself if you see someone is in trouble and do NOTHING?

 

[Necuno]

Let me rephrase... I don't expect someone to just pounce the mugger or whatever... But to just walk past? Not even call the police? Not do anything? How do you live with yourself if you see someone is in trouble and do NOTHING?

Turn your back on someone whose life is in danger and you are even worse than the danger itself.

I'm glad your both alive; i guess in the end that is the only troos one can have after such an incident- i can at least relate, i was saved by a 'gym bear' when i was about to be robbed of my cash a few years back. That oak should have at least called the police, it wouldn't have costed him a thing.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Thanks, Necuno

lolz @ "gym bear"

 

[hj2k_x]

Turn your back on someone whose life is in danger and you are even worse than the danger itself.

That oak should have at least called the police, it wouldn't have costed him a thing.

Exactly my point.

 

[brixton tower]

What really peeves on my batteries is that people were walking past while all this was happening and just scurrying away as quickly as possible - not doing a thing. One guy walked past and my fiancé even mouthed, "Help me" at him and he did nothing - just walked to his car, climbed in and drove off.

Is that how it is these days? People see crime and just go on about their business? Too afraid to help someone in case they get hurt in the process? Cowards.

While driving through Bo-Kaap(Chiappini Street), on my way back home I saw a mugging right in front of me and my adrenaline was pumping like a ma'fukker...pressed on my horn, chased the guy down the road as he made a run for it, eventually got out of the car, by that time a passing police patrol was also looking for the guy and some of the people had gotten out of their homes but the bastard had disappeared around the area of Fashion TV bar.

I wouldn't go chasing after just any perp, especially one armed with a gun but if it daylight and the area is crowded there is a greater likelihood that he wouldn't use it.

 

[Fuma]

Nice of him to give the sim card back.

He doesn't seem to be a real criminal. It's some chancer I tell you. The real ones would have done something bad if the victim asked for a SIM card.

 

[Natas]

Mugger's features are as follows:

Coloured male
1.8m in height
Black jeans
Leather jacket
Red shirt underneath
Blue/green eyes
Gunshot wound & vertical scar on stomach
Approximately late 20's
Gun was a black revolver
He had holes in both his ears, but no piercings
Shaved head
Skinny physique
Claimed to be in a gang and showed a tattoo with the numbers 26 or 27

Sounds to me like it was a tikmonster... I mean for one, the oke is rattling off about his life story while mugging your fiance.

 

[Slaine73]

The more people do nothing the more things like this will happen... I hope they get the guy and hope the both of you are ok.