Mugged

[brixton tower]

Sounds to me like it was a tikmonster... I mean for one, the oke is rattling off about his life story while mugging your fiance.

Don't have any figures but you're probably right, most of the "property crimes" in Cape Town are drug related.

 

[Lycanthrope]

I saw a mugging right in front of me and my adrenaline was pumping like a ma'fukker...pressed on my horn, chased the guy down the road as he made a run for it, eventually got out of the car, by that time a passing police patrol was also looking for the guy and some of the people had gotten out of their homes but the bastard had disappeared around the area of Fashion TV bar.

haha! Well done

He doesn't seem to be a real criminal. It's some chancer I tell you. The real ones would have done something bad if the victim asked for a SIM card.

*nod* I'm willing to agree. My fiancé didn't ask for the SIM though, the guy just took the phone, removed the SIM and tossed it back. My suspicion is that he probably thought the phone could only get blacklisted if the SIM was inside.

Sounds to me like it was a tikmonster... I mean for one, the oke is rattling off about his life story while mugging your fiance.

heh... We were actually having a bit of a laugh about this today now that the "shock" has died down. He left work at 16:50 and finally arrived home at 17:20. He was apparently arguing with the guy for about 20 minutes before the guy started getting a bit "crazy." The idea of the person I love more than anything in the universe... arguing with a guy pointing a gun at him... It's horrifying and hilarious all at the same time since that's just his personality He could argue the skin off a lion

The more people do nothing the more things like this will happen... I hope they get the guy and hope the both of you are ok.

I agree. Thank you for the kind words, and we are

On a side note, last night we went to the police to write up a case report thing. We called the police at about 17:30-17:40, they arrived on our premises at 19:30. I wasn't exactly impressed by this. Nor was I impressed with the fact that when we called 10111, we were just asked for our residential address even though we repeated, "It was a mugging." They never asked for a description of the guy or where it happened, even though we told them it happened by Willowbridge. They also said they were sending a car to patrol the area - no such thing occurred since we can clearly see the area from our apartment.

On the plus side - the two police offers who arrived at our home just as we were leaving to go to the police station were incredibly helpful, polite and made us feel much better about an otherwise unpleasant situation. So, my thanks go out to the Bellville police department. Thank you!

 

[shadow_man]

You cant be serious asking for info on 26,27,28's and not knowing who they are. Thats like 1/3rd of the cape flats my dear. Those are prison gang numbers. 26 Conmen, 27 knife fighters/hitmen/muscle etc, 28's renowned for their love of men etc etc. You arent going to find 1 person matching that description, rather 1000's.

Be aware, don't walk dodgy paths and learn how to use a weapon of some sort or even take up a martial art. It all helps.

J

So, my fiancé was mugged at gunpoint on the path outside our apartment at approximately 17:20 today - our balcony overlooks the path. It happened right in front of our home.

The guy basically swore at him, called him a "po3s" told him - in Afrikaans - that he'd shoot him in his back, in his foot, anything. Waved the gun around at him, then put it back in his pocket. He also lifted his shirt and showed where he'd been shot, along with a long vertical scar on his stomach.

Long story short, he took my babe's cellphone, yet had the audacity to give him back his SIM card.

Mugging occurred at the path behind Willowbridge mall, Bellville, Cape Town.

Mugger's features are as follows:

Coloured male
1.8m in height
Black jeans
Leather jacket
Red shirt underneath
Blue/green eyes
Gunshot wound & vertical scar on stomach
Approximately late 20's
Gun was a black revolver
He had holes in both his ears, but no piercings
Shaved head
Skinny physique
Claimed to be in a gang and showed a tattoo with the numbers 26 or 27

Any information on this sonofacowcrap would be appreciated. Also any information about a gang by that ... number.

What really peeves on my batteries is that people were walking past while all this was happening and just scurrying away as quickly as possible - not doing a thing. One guy walked past and my fiancé even mouthed, "Help me" at him and he did nothing - just walked to his car, climbed in and drove off.

Is that how it is these days? People see crime and just go on about their business? Too afraid to help someone in case they get hurt in the process? Cowards.

 

[Natas]

heh... We were actually having a bit of a laugh about this today now that the "shock" has died down. He left work at 16:50 and finally arrived home at 17:20. He was apparently arguing with the guy for about 20 minutes before the guy started getting a bit "crazy." The idea of the person I love more than anything in the universe... arguing with a guy pointing a gun at him... It's horrifying and hilarious all at the same time since that's just his personality He could argue the skin off a lion

Yeah. I ahve a friend who was walking home in Rondebosch once.. He is a big guy, but anyways, a mugger came up to him and told him to give him all his money, his cellphone and his jacket. My mate looked at the guy and said NO! Took out his wallet, gave the guy ten bucks and then told him to **** off. He walked right past teh guy.. teh guy left him alone! HHEHEHHE

 

[Guest 20221009]

my brother and I got mugged in 2004 at gun point. K@K feeling really. Late Dec 2009 some chick was getting mugged in front of our flat, my brothers and a friend did not waste time..

Lets just say, the suckers graciously jumped into the police van after a lekka butt whipping!

Sometimes people tell you that, its all about being cautious. I agree to a certain extent, but the are time when you just want to chill. And that is what annoys me the most, having to watch my back at all times

 

[Lycanthrope]

You cant be serious asking for info on 26,27,28's and not knowing who they are. Thats like 1/3rd of the cape flats my dear. Those are prison gang numbers. 26 Conmen, 27 knife fighters/hitmen/muscle etc, 28's renowned for their love of men etc etc. You arent going to find 1 person matching that description, rather 1000's.

Be aware, don't walk dodgy paths and learn how to use a weapon of some sort or even take up a martial art. It all helps.

J

The funny thing is that it wasn't a dodgy path. It's literally four flights down, out the gate and there it is - the gravel path with pretty little flowers and stuff and whatever. It's literally 50m away from the Willowbridge centre.

As for the "Numbers Gang" - I've never heard of them before now. So yes, I'm serious.

Yeah. I ahve a friend who was walking home in Rondebosch once.. He is a big guy, but anyways, a mugger came up to him and told him to give him all his money, his cellphone and his jacket. My mate looked at the guy and said NO! Took out his wallet, gave the guy ten bucks and then told him to **** off. He walked right past teh guy.. teh guy left him alone! HHEHEHHE

roflmao Nice Brave guy though... Would it've been the same if the mugger had a gun? :/

my brother and I got mugged in 2004 at gun point. K@K feeling really. Late Dec 2009 some chick was getting mugged in front of our flat, my brothers and a friend did not waste time..

Lets just say, the suckers graciously jumped into the police van after a lekka butt whipping!

Sometimes people tell you that, its all about being cautious. I agree to a certain extent, but the are time when you just want to chill. And that is what annoys me the most, having to watch my back at all times

Well done! Utmost respect to your brother and his friend!

 

[kryptik]

About a year ago I was visiting Cape Town. I'd just had some excellent prawns at Adega's at Willowbridge, and as i reached my car, a gentleman of dubious knife-wielding character took it upon himself to relieve me of my wallet. My better 0†6, knowing what was about to happen, stepped aside as i showed the idiot why i carry an ASP telescopic baton *when i'm not carrying my firearm*. 2 minutes later we were heading towards our hotel, while the idiot was still wondering where all the bright lights in his head had come from. I'd strongly advise you to visit a good gunshop, enquire about these batons or a compact firearm. Above all, seek training in basic self-defense. Excellent investment.

 

[Lycanthrope]

About a year ago I was visiting Cape Town. I'd just had some excellent prawns at Adega's at Willowbridge, and as i reached my car, a gentleman of dubious knife-wielding character took it upon himself to relieve me of my wallet. My better 0†6, knowing what was about to happen, stepped aside as i showed the idiot why i carry an ASP telescopic baton *when i'm not carrying my firearm*. 2 minutes later we were heading towards our hotel, while the idiot was still wondering where all the bright lights in his head had come from. I'd strongly advise you to visit a good gunshop, enquire about these batons or a compact firearm. Above all, seek training in basic self-defense. Excellent investment.

Jeez, that's scary. If you don't mind me asking - why didn't you notify police?

Glad you and your other half are all right!

 

[kryptik]

Lycan, by the time the police arrive hours have often gone by, and it's usually all over bar the shouting, which is why I left the gentleman in the care of Mr.Plod the Rentacop who eventually arrived after the drama had wound down. On the subject of the person who walked by and saw your SO being robbed, shame on him. It's blatant cowardice, no matter how we describe it. A simple telephone call would've been useful; he could even have blown his horn repeatedly in order to disorientate the mugger. It saddens me to think that such people have no backbone, and one would hope that he's never in a situation where his unwillingness to act leads to the loss of life.

 

[Lycanthrope]

*nod* It could've been much worse. Fortunately it wasn't. I like to think that that guy who walked by will have to live with himself and his guilt... But somehow I don't believe someone like that has any.

I'm glad that at least the er... Rent-a-cop took care of him... Hopefully the guy was arrested..

 

[PeterCH]

Lycan, by the time the police arrive hours have often gone by, and it's usually all over bar the shouting, which is why I left the gentleman in the care of Mr.Plod the Rentacop who eventually arrived after the drama had wound down. On the subject of the person who walked by and saw your SO being robbed, shame on him. It's blatant cowardice, no matter how we describe it. A simple telephone call would've been useful; he could even have blown his horn repeatedly in order to disorientate the mugger. It saddens me to think that such people have no backbone, and one would hope that he's never in a situation where his unwillingness to act leads to the loss of life.

Do you not think that interference can sometimes be dangerous? If the perp had a gun pointed at the victim and was also nervous, do you not think that any interference - short of a sniper shot to the head - would not spook the
perp and have him fire off a round - either by accident or on purpose at the victim or someone else? At the end of the day, money and cellphone can be replaced, but a bullet to the chest, head or the spine cannot be fixed as easily.

I can understand the passer-by going to the nearest safe place and calling the cops on his cellphone or notifying people at the nearest shop but direct intervention by an amateur could be very dangerous for everyone concerned.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Do you not think that interference can sometimes be dangerous? If the perp had a gun pointed at the victim and was also nervous, do you not think that any interference - short of a sniper shot to the head - would not spook the
perp and have him fire off a round - either by accident or on purpose at the victim or someone else? At the end of the day, money and cellphone can be replaced, but a bullet to the chest, head or the spine cannot be fixed as easily.

I can understand the passer-by going to the nearest safe place and calling the cops on his cellphone or notifying people at the nearest shop but direct intervention by an amateur could be very dangerous for everyone concerned.

I have to agree. But for the guy to just get in his car and drive off? And I sincerely doubt he called the cops. Because he sure as hell didn't call the security guards in the area...

 

[PeterCH]

As for the "Numbers Gang" - I've never heard of them before now. So yes, I'm serious.

http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache...s+south+africa+crime&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=za

Stratfor did a report on organised crime in South Africa as intelligence for international businessmen and corporates last year. Personally in my dealings with patients in the past, I've come across ex-cons who have confirmed much of what's written here, the prison gangs control the outside gangs and are aligned, as
people go in and out of the prison system they associate with the respective gang.

 

[Sackboy]

Do you not think that interference can sometimes be dangerous? If the perp had a gun pointed at the victim and was also nervous, do you not think that any interference - short of a sniper shot to the head - would not spook the
perp and have him fire off a round - either by accident or on purpose at the victim or someone else? At the end of the day, money and cellphone can be replaced, but a bullet to the chest, head or the spine cannot be fixed as easily.

I can understand the passer-by going to the nearest safe place and calling the cops on his cellphone or notifying people at the nearest shop but direct intervention by an amateur could be very dangerous for everyone concerned.

You're right of course, but we're not living in a society where ideal situations exist. Our police are dysfunctional - their head is a criminal, the Metro Head is also an accused. We just have to do what we can and hope it falls within the realm of common sense and hope for the best. I doubt whether it's legal to carry a baton, but what alternative is there?

 

[Lycanthrope]

You're right of course, but we're not living in a society where ideal situations exist. Our police are dysfunctional - their head is a criminal, the Metro Head is also an accused. We just have to do what we can and hope it falls within the realm of common sense and hope for the best. I doubt whether it's legal to carry a baton, but what alternative is there?

Very true... Actually thinking of equipping him with a taser/stun gun, mace and a knife lol... But I think that might be overkill...

I'm officially walking him to work every single day, and walking him back every single day for the rest of our lives. I'm never leaving him alone in town again....

 

[kryptik]

Hehehe I know how you feel, Lycan, I'm very protective of my wife and daughter as well. It would be wise to invest in self defence classes, I think. There are also various self defence weapons available which can be very effective. Years ago, a gentleman by the name of Don Gold taught me that very often, avoidance is the more prudent course of action, but that when the situation warranted action, that one had to act decisively. His training has saved my butt on more occasions than I care to remember.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Hehehe I know how you feel, Lycan, I'm very protective of my wife and daughter as well. It would be wise to invest in self defence classes, I think. There are also various self defence weapons available which can be very effective. Years ago, a gentleman by the name of Don Gold taught me that very often, avoidance is the more prudent course of action, but that when the situation warranted action, that one had to act decisively. His training has saved my butt on more occasions than I care to remember.

We're considering it - I'd like to learn as well. Somehow I think my imaginary kung-fu; kick-butt fantasies of what I'd've done had I been there aren't all that feasible

Thank you for the link!

 

[Hosehead]

What many of you need to realise is when caught in a situation in which a weapon is threatening you (be it a gun, a knife, or whatever) your fight or flight reaction kicks in. Remember you never know how you will react to a situation until it actually happens. I once went into a situation when I let my emo (anger) get the better of me when I caught a thief inside my car. I confronted him and just as I was about to haul him out and pulp him, he swung a knife, still seated, out of nowwhere. My instinct saved me from disembowelment- I leaped back as the blade swung, but then shock kicked in for a few seconds and your brain overrides your body to momentary paralysis. So in that time he got away but he was still within gunshot range, but unfortunately I'm not allowed to shoot a fleeing suspect in the back.

 

[kryptik]

...fight or flight reaction...

That's why I advocate training, in order to minimise the risk to yourself and other potential victims, and to maximise your chances of walking away unscathed. Hose, my grandpa was a farmer, and used to keep his shotgun loaded with coarse salt for those occasions when he caught sight of miscreants pilfering his livestock.
Pity that we can't let loose with a few cartridges of that ourselves, hey. Odds are that the perps would return fire using heavy artillery.

Lycan, you're most welcome I'm certain that there are quite a few very competent people/institutions in C.T. who offer butt-kicking courses

 

[Sackboy]

What many of you need to realise is when caught in a situation in which a weapon is threatening you (be it a gun, a knife, or whatever) your fight or flight reaction kicks in. Remember you never know how you will react to a situation until it actually happens. I once went into a situation when I let my emo (anger) get the better of me when I caught a thief inside my car. I confronted him and just as I was about to haul him out and pulp him, he swung a knife, still seated, out of nowwhere. My instinct saved me from disembowelment- I leaped back as the blade swung, but then shock kicked in for a few seconds and your brain overrides your body to momentary paralysis. So in that time he got away but he was still within gunshot range, but unfortunately I'm not allowed to shoot a fleeing suspect in the back.

Yikes. I think we should all realise that car thieves ALWAYS carry knives and screwdrivers.