MWeb as ISP?

[PostmanPot]

Anger leads to hate,
hate leads to suffering

These are the things of the darkside

Anger? Hate? No, you just contribute nothing to MyBb. You have no business here if you are not going to post substance. Otherwise take your nonsense to TK and spare us.

Agreed, defending mweb by discarding people's experiences isn't the way to go.

The whole point here is that they are in the 1% of people who have had bad experiences. You'll also find that many of them are relics of the past, having no recent experience and only going by what they read in polls voted on by people who consume a lot more data than the masses.

 

[Mephisto_Helix]

Well, seeing as MyBB or even this thread doesn't belong to you, take a flying leap with telling people what to do, chop
I defended them until I had issues and I will now tell people about that, it's no ones business to try tell me otherwise, thanks. Same goes for anyone else that has had the same issues.

 

[PostmanPot]

It's no coincidence that MWEB was rated one of the lowest here on MyBB, just above Opensewer.

You are incorrect in believing that I want the cheapest account to download like crazy. I know that this is not a reality in South Africa right now.

I pay a similar price to what I would at MWEB. My gaming latency is literally the best I have ever had, with any ISP. I don't have issues where I have to reset my router or listen to SEACOM excuses (out of MWEBs control, ye ye) or suffer under a 30 day rolling window throttle which may impact on such latency sensitive protocols.

MWEB goes in dry, you don't even get to bite the pillow.

I expected that you would not respond properly and avoid discussing what I called you out on and proved wrong. I also kindly ask that you do me the favour of formatting your posts including my quotes so that I know exactly what you're responding to, otherwise it seems you're not debating at all.

That way we can really see who is fibbing or not.

I am tired of people deceiving consumers in search of quality internet. Whether they are just plain wrong (like in your case), or whether they had unique issues in the 0.01%.

It's so funny that you mention the votes, see my post above. This is exactly it. They are voted down because they do not suit the needs of people who consume a lot of data in comparison to others.

Remember that when you subscribe to polls on a tech/digital forum, the people who vote have exceptionally different needs than most. And in MWEB's case, it's a case of sour grapes because they rained on the parade of all the downloaders who suddenly woke up to face the prospects of throttling.

Sour, sour grapes selfishly used to deceive others looking for good internet.

I have no idea what you are talking about about SEACOM. This goes exactly to show that you must be talking about something many moons ago. Please tell us when you used them, search your email for the invoices. We'll then sift back through the Feedback thread and match the issues with SEACOM you're talking about here.

A 30 day rolling window is an excellent way of throttling, and much better than a soft cap.

Soft capped accounts, when capped, limit usage to a throttled speed for the rest of the month.

Throttled uncapped accounts, when the throttle limit has been reached, limit usage for as long as it takes for the account to fall back within the throttle limit, at which point the account returns to full speed. This could happen after a single day of lower/no usage, and not at the beginning of the next month.

 

[StevenC]

But they are liars because they are not telling other people the truth.

Prove me wrong that MWEB does not throttle their clients.
Prove me wrong that MWEB does not have a news server.
Prove me wrong that MWEB does not have a 30 day rolling window.
Prove me wrong on MY OWN experiences with MWEB as an ISP, that I left because they baited people in with advertising saying "we will never throttle you" and then sent out a lekker letter saying, lol guess what guys, we throttlin now".

I await your response

Even in your own post, you cannot keep it straight. You say

You can use the internet in anyway you want, it's just that, sometimes, you cannot download your media between working hours, and sometimes until the later hours of the evening.

That is like selling an expensive car and telling people that they can drive as fast as they want, just that you can only drive it on roads that let you go a certain speed at certain times during the day and late in to the evening, but yeah, they can drive as fast as they want, but only when we let you. Which is not often. Or ever.

 

[PostmanPot]

Well, seeing as MyBB or even this thread doesn't belong to you, take a flying leap with telling people what to do, chop
I defended them until I had issues and I will now tell people about that, it's no ones business to try tell me otherwise, thanks. Same goes for anyone else that has had the same issues.

Cheers. Learn not to take things personally, we cannot account for every single sob story on a personal level.

 

[Zuner]

MWEB goes in dry, you don't even get to bite the pillow.

in the midst of all this anger you made me laugh like a school kid..

 

[PostmanPot]

Prove me wrong that MWEB does not throttle their clients.
Prove me wrong that MWEB does not have a news server.
Prove me wrong that MWEB does not have a 30 day rolling window.
Prove me wrong on MY OWN experiences with MWEB as an ISP, that I left because they baited people in with advertising saying "we will never throttle you" and then sent out a lekker letter saying, lol guess what guys, we throttlin now".

I await your response

These are not the points you raised earlier which I countered. Please, in future, try to respond to my posts to you, instead of responding to my posts to others, with content that should have been put in your response to me.

What you have shown is that you left MWEB at least 2 years ago (I left them too). Who are you to tell us what MWEB does and doesn't do with regards to the internet service provided to its clients?

Even in your own post, you cannot keep it straight. You say


That is like selling an expensive car and telling people that they can drive as fast as they want, just that you can only drive it on roads that let you go a certain speed at certain times during the day and late in to the evening, but yeah, they can drive as fast as they want, but only when we let you. Which is not often. Or ever.

The notion that they can drive as fast as they want always is flawed in the first place. They can drive as fast as they want until their petrol/performance starts running out (but it never actually does) at night on an open highway. Not during the day when the roads are busy and there are pedestrians about.

Bandwidth is finite, certainly during working hours, where what impacts negatively on other people is shaped. Even on capped accounts.

Strange how this reminds me of policies of other ISPs, I wonder why.

Anyway, your not being able to NNTP is a moot point which came into effect 1.5 years after you left MWEB. I've already shown you wrong about downloading during hours.

 

[PostmanPot]

in the midst of all this anger you made me laugh like a school kid..

You mistake anger with not taking **** from liars.

 

[Zuner]

You mistake anger with not taking **** from liars.

your mistake is coming to the conclusion that they are liars. you were not there, how can you say they are liars?
yes maybe they are telling a one sided story, that of a heavy user and it may be that the OP is a light user that doesn't mean anyone lied.

Just remember its the person who is reading these posts to make up their mind based on the experiences of heavy and light users and what type of user they will be. by your logic we should not give our opinions, what if the OP is a heavy user he/she would then be making the wrong choice since all info that was available is that of a light user.

 

[StevenC]

Couldn't be bothered to "format my posts" to your individual statements, not quite worth the effort.

The very fact that you accept a rolling 30 day window is just absurd. That you are ok with throttling. If you spent the amount of effort fighting against MWEB as you do fighting for them, maybe you wouldn't have a situation where they impose the most draconian limits on their users. They had a good honeymoon period with a lot of users. Pity they got there with a honey trap.

You also make the assumption that MWEB was voted low because of sour grapes. I would imagine that the people voting on MWEB are current customers who feel as if they are getting shafted. I know when I voted, I voted for my current ISP.

We are well aware that you don't actually use your internet for anything other than posting on MyBB. What makes that quality, I don't know. However, at R400+ a month, I am fairly certain that people would like to actually use it for something other than browsing forums. <-- See, I can make assumptions about you too.

 

[Sting]

Afrihost is a hot blonde hooker. You pay, she performs for a bit and then leaves and the rest of the time you're sat wishing she was back.

MWEB is a plain looking, dependable wife who isn't the best at it, but keeps you in a steady supply of nookie.

And TI is the escort that you cannot afford, but you know (OP) that it will be the best for what you require.

 

[Zuner]

Good evening

Im currently with Afrihost on 10meg line Capped 150gig**. I want to move over to Mweb, and need to know if this will be a good move to go uncapped 10meg line? I youtube during the day alot, and night time downloading.

Please advise

Chris

lol i bet you didn't think this thread would end up causing such a stir?

 

[StevenC]

Yeah I left shortly after the letter, like many did.

I am well aware of bandwidth constraints. But then again, I pay the higher toll price for the express lane. Why would I pay MWEB's toll price to go slower, or wait until midnight before flooring it, or if I travel too far then for the next 30 days I have to go in the slow lane?

No thanks! That is not my idea of quality internet.

 

[Necuno]

lol i bet you didn't think this thread would end up causing such a stir?

Shills will shill

 

[PostmanPot]

your mistake is coming to the conclusion that they are liars.

Are we actually reading the same thread here? Show me where I made the mistake:

LOL

Mweb's goal is to rip their customers as much as possible, and defend their sister company's grip on multimedia as much as possible

Remember, Mweb & Multichoice are owned by Naspers

High usage generally indicates media consumption, which is a direct threat to Multichoice. Mweb is the only ISP I know of that really tries as hard as they can to give their customers as little as possible, whilst charging the most.

Stay where you are, I know Afrihost isn't the same as it used to be, but its still one of the best ISP's.

Stay away from MWEB if you plan to use the internet for things other than Facebook.
It's that simple

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you were not there, how can you say they are liars?

Firstly I am not accounting for every single case, I am talking about the experience of 99%+ of people. This is the same experience that will apply to most new signups...

I have just proven how StevenC was with MWEB two years ago. That must surely say something to you. Yet you want to pretend, like StevenC, that these are in any way current? Two years...

yes maybe they are telling a one sided story, that of a heavy user and it may be that the OP is a light user that doesn't mean anyone lied.

I agree with you, this is what I always try to explain. Everyone has different needs.

When someone who used MWEB 2 years ago (in the past) says that 'torrents don't work during the day' (the current time) and I show them during the day that I am downloading at over 500KB/s, they are lying.

It is considered a lie to prospective customers seeking correct and truthful information.

Just remember its the person who is reading these posts to make up their mind based on the experiences of heavy and light users and what type of user they will be. by your logic we should not give our opinions, what if the OP is a heavy user he/she would then be making the wrong choice since all info that was available is that of a light user.

No, everyone should give their opinions. This is imperative, in life and in everything. However, don't lie about it. Help others. That is what we need.

 

[MickeyD]

Help others. That is what we need.

In that case...

OP, get a capped Telkom Internet account. Youtube no problem during the day and Night Surfer will be at line speed for your downloads (and it does not count towards your cap).

 

[StevenC]

When someone who used MWEB 2 years ago (in the past) says that 'torrents don't work during the day' (the current time) and I show them during the day that I am downloading at over 500KB/s, they are lying.

Ok fine. I am not a current MWEB customer. I do recall seeing threads about MWEB blocking torrents or throttling them in to non existence though. This is where I draw that particular opinion from.

The rest of my points still stand.

 

[PostmanPot]

Couldn't be bothered to "format my posts" to your individual statements, not quite worth the effort.

I figured. You were a client two years ago, and have no interest whatsoever. Particularly in what is truthful and what isn't.

The very fact that you accept a rolling 30 day window is just absurd. That you are ok with throttling. If you spent the amount of effort fighting against MWEB as you do fighting for them, maybe you wouldn't have a situation where they impose the most draconian limits on their users. They had a good honeymoon period with a lot of users. Pity they got there with a honey trap.

It's not absurd at all. I get the best quality unshaped internet, every day, 24/7, with no downtime or skips ever, and I know exactly what my limit is. This has not changed since I left MWEB two years ago. What a stupid move it was in hindsight, then again the throttle limits were not known back then. I don't blame you for leaving either.

You also make the assumption that MWEB was voted low because of sour grapes. I would imagine that the people voting on MWEB are current customers who feel as if they are getting shafted. I know when I voted, I voted for my current ISP.

But then the poor souls stuck with MWEB would be leaving MWEB. They would be causing a stink in the Feedback thread. Yet it is dead quiet.

People who left MWEB because of downloading reasons, left MWEB yonks ago.

We are well aware that you don't actually use your internet for anything other than posting on MyBB. What makes that quality, I don't know. However, at R400+ a month, I am fairly certain that people would like to actually use it for something other than browsing forums. <-- See, I can make assumptions about you too.

Terrible assumption.

The only assumption I made about you was that you download a lot.

Every other assumption I've made, from using polls to form opinions as well as being a client many moons ago, is dead true.

 

[PostmanPot]

In that case...

OP, get a capped Telkom Internet account. Youtube no problem during the day and Night Surfer will be at line speed for your downloads (and it does not count towards your cap).

My Telkom Internet 50GB capped account has been running well this month.

The problem is that they are unreliable and inconsistent with, what I would consider regular, ups and downs. One day will be good, the next won't be. This is correlated throughout the forum.

But who knows, maybe it's getting better. I certainly hope so for the benefit of the consumer.

 

[PostmanPot]

Ok fine. I am not a current MWEB customer. I do recall seeing threads about MWEB blocking torrents or throttling them in to non existence though. This is where I draw that particular opinion from.

Thanks for your honesty.

And there we have it, someone who was with MWEB two years ago advising those in the current with false information (lies).

The rest of my points still stand.

Please list those points one by one.