And how do you get that number? A 1Mbps account can download roughly 275GB if it's running constantly and at full speed 24/7 for the entire month.
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And how do you get that number? A 1Mbps account can download roughly 275GB if it's running constantly and at full speed 24/7 for the entire month.
Electric
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Why ask a question like that?
You mweb guys can't fathom such large amounts of data
300gb does not get me throttled on TI.
Why would anyone in their right minds argue that a person is abusing their account if it is an uncapped account?
Not condoning abuse.
I just think there is a problem when the limit is not clear and folks choose to argue the fact as though 32gb is abuse.
And then mweb pipes in about a 30 day rolling window?
It's all a bit of a joke really.
This figure is impossible on a 1Mb. think of it this way, 128KBps down and 32KBps (to much upload your downloads gets affected) id 375GB in 30 days. more realistic is 100 down and 25 up, thats 308GB in 30 days, I expect an unshaped account to do this, unless there is catastrophic failure.
I am trying to prove here that we expect unshaped figures from shaped account. if we want it we must pay for it, simple, the ISPs pay R925 ex vat for it then R759 is a bargain. we fail to see this.
I am not even going to bring in the price of fibre, that can only do tops 600GB with a 1:1 contention and has a 1Mb upload. they still rely on the content host to supply them with full speed.
Why ask a question like that?
You mweb guys can't fathom such large amounts of data
300gb does not get me throttled on TI.
Why would anyone in their right minds argue that a person is abusing their account if it is an uncapped account?
Not condoning abuse.
I just think there is a problem when the limit is not clear and folks choose to argue the fact as though 32gb is abuse.
And then mweb pipes in about a 30 day rolling window?
It's all a bit of a joke really.
Please supply the proof that you managed 300GB on a 1Mb account, you are giving this impression.
If one defines a limit, everyone will download at that limit. hence capped account costs more than an uncapped account. No one supplies the full details. someone won an argument if I recall that a 3GB threshold was uncapped if throttled afterwards. they won the case. you are not capped if you are throttled, you are uncapped. effectively TI capped accounts are uncapped accounts. I will try and find the article I read
Electric
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2mb , sorry.
I should have mentioned
I should have mentioned
So why did you not reach 600GB or 750GB as per my calculation you could achieve? again a bit of proof would be appreciated.
Electric
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I don't feel the need to download that much.
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This is what the MWEB disciples don't realize, you don't use your line 100% for the whole month. Some months you download more and some months you download less but in the end it is your choice. If you happen to feel like downloading a lot then best you move to another ISP who doesn't have magical caps.
Electric
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Exactly.
Couldn't have said it better.
Couldn't have said it better.
I do not see the point either, but he gives the impression he keeps doing this, I prsume it is a maximum. I am more than happy with a 75GB per Mb. this is what the heavy users are not seeing, I doubt they are on the forums as they know they face trouble if they agree with me. there re guys doing 300GB per Mb every month all the time. it is these guys that MWEB needed to address but they risked including more customers as now everyone is downloading to the limit and decreasing MWEBs threshold. If everyone saw it your way, i dont see MWEB wouldve needed to do this at all. we can clearly see that afrihost hashad a small increase in subscribers but a massive increase in demand. Tell me that you still belive afrihost will feed these abusers all they demand. they wont it is not viable. you cannot increase your capacity by 30% for a 5 % increase in sign ups. unless you want to show off. but then you see how long they last. Yes MWEB took these guys for 3 years before taking drastic mesures. afihost couldnt even tke it for month. I commend MWEB for doing everything possible, I am sure they took major losses in the last year and decided to just break even not even get to profitability.
if you educate everyone properly then they will see profit. I thinks it comming as now all ISPs just blame the AUP for poor performance, everyone will now learn the impact of an I AUP and calm down in overall usage, that is my guesses anyway
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Looking on the forums, MWEB is bleeding customers at the moment. I download a lot so I moved away from them a few months ago and have been quite happy with Afrihost. When I download too much my P2P gets shaped but the rest of my line still works. When you download too much with MWEB they throttle your line down to minimum speed to just stay inside the definition of uncapped as per ICASA.
What they don't realize is that a lot of guys on MYBB work in IT. We are in the process of moving all our customer accounts (40+ uncapped accounts as well as about 20 corporate accounts) from MWEB because of this ridiculous throttling. Nothing worse than getting phone calls from irate customers because MWEB decided to throttle them. They don't care if it is the ISP. The buck stops with us to supply them with always on internet and our bucks are going to be spent on an ISP that can give us that service.
What they don't realize is that a lot of guys on MYBB work in IT. We are in the process of moving all our customer accounts (40+ uncapped accounts as well as about 20 corporate accounts) from MWEB because of this ridiculous throttling. Nothing worse than getting phone calls from irate customers because MWEB decided to throttle them. They don't care if it is the ISP. The buck stops with us to supply them with always on internet and our bucks are going to be spent on an ISP that can give us that service.
Anyone know how big their base is?
RunningFromFat
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Hey guys, im throttled because of 213 GB, in your opinion am i at fault or not?
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Fudzy?
uncapped standard or premium, speed and is this 30 days or october, facts tend to go a long way
RunningFromFat
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213 past 30, mweb uncapped, definitely standard afaik ( bf3 promotion a couple of years back)
If I recall the promo it was uncapped 1024 premium, R199 pm, take a look on your account, know the special got my bf3 on one.
213GB is 17hours on a 1Mb or 8.5hours on 2Mb if you pay 369 (based on linespeed). I would say not bad. you may not agree though. I still think 75GB per mb is adequate (300GB on a mweb and AH 4Mb account seems to bet all I can get under normal usage, had to really try with AH though)
Lycanthrope
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What? :wtf:
213GB is 19-days, 17-hours at the line-speed of 1Mbps and 9-days and 20-hours at 2Mbps, under ideal conditions.
While I don't think it's possible to call maxing a 1- or 2Mbps line "abuse" that's certainly using what you're paying for.
over 30 days 213GB is maxing your line 17 hours a day on a 1Mb line. or 8.5 on 2Mb
you need to take into account shaping, it is therefore not possible to max out line unless you use unshaped protocols, and even then the high priority data is not quite intensive. when you stream a video at perfect quality over speed your video will finish buffering some time before the video finish, so a break in data transfer. taking this into account its like streaming the best possible quality for 20 hours on 1Mb or 10 on 2Mb
I think at 8 hours of streaming a day every day all day is crazy, byt thats my opinion