Mweb - Yes/No?

convict21 said:
That is the dumbest thing I've read today. They have a constant contention ratio, you can't congest a network with too many sign-ups. Too many heavy users is a different story...
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just signed up myself recently and it does seem to be extra slow ... maybe that VOD thingy wasn't such a hot idea.
either way it does feel a little stuffy in the mweb space ...
 
Mweb will give you the most value for your R500+/- ... Most people are happy with it. But if you don't like it there is always plenty others out there. Considering what we used to pay for bandwidth just a little bit ago, I am definitely getting value for my money with Mweb.

And if you are really serious about downloading large amounts you'll find there are ways around shaping.
 
Mweb. YES! last month i did over 300gb, yes do they do shape, currently getting 120KB/s on from news server.
They are worth it indeed, I dont see any reason why NOT to go with them :)
 
convict21 said:
That is the dumbest thing I've read today. They have a constant contention ratio, you can't congest a network with too many sign-ups. Too many heavy users is a different story...
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it's most peoples opinion not just my own, so keep reading the forum you likely to come across alot more dumb posts geni@$s !
 
killadoob said:
Lance did you read my first sentence saying people are complaining about 384, i can only relay my experience on a 4 meg account and i have no idea at what time the 12gb i d/led last night started going full speed, i generally play games at night then sleep as opposed to sitting waiting for the full speed switch to be flipped.
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I did indeed read it but I also continued reading it in the context of the paragraph it was in :

Lots of 384 people complaining though, my advice is get the account and see for yourself. There are way to many moles on this forum. Mweb have no cap nor do they limit you to x amount of gb's nor do they limit your line speed after a certain amount of gb's, it is uncapped with shaping during the day
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To be totally accurate it should state "during the day and sometimes at night".

Your response above does appear to indicate that you to agree that it is not totally correct to state that all protocols run at full speed at night as you appeared to be insinuating in your initial post, as you agree there appears to be time at which the "full speed switch" is flipped. Unfortunately from my experience this is not set in stone either.

Lance are you still using the mweb news server?
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Yes, I am. Can't see why I should pay for another service. And according to all comments the protocol is shaped so another server should not make a difference.

Again, as with you I am just endeavouring to provide those who are making the decision with all the information they require. I am fairly happy with MWeb but without test driving the others myself I still can't be sure it is the best.
 
Well dude maybe instead of being a cheap skate you should buy some int news server access, you are already pirating and still you want to be a cheap skate and then still you moan about the free mweb news servers.

Stop being such a tight wad and maybe you will find you can download a ton of stuff, i just bought a 200gb block for 27 dollars lance, FFS you are pirating goods worth lots of money and you still cannot spend 27 dollars?

I don't really give a crap what time they open the flood gates, all i care about is my daily usage.

I tested the mweb news server before i bought the 200gb block to see and i never got over 25kb/s, downloaded like 3 gb from sunday until i bought the block yesterday. Yes i can see how you come to the conclusion that it would not make a difference. You are advising people based on being a cheap skate and using a free news server which never gives full speed regardless of the time of day.

Yes news servers are shaped during the day, i get 100kb/s a sec during the day. Wow that is horrific, imagine 100kb/s :eek: shocking stuff. Then at night 350-400kb/s or i could be cheap and use the mweb news server and complain how crap mweb is.
 
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killadoob said:
Well dude maybe instead of being a cheap skate ... still you want to be a cheap skate...

Stop being such a tight wad ...

...based on being a cheap skate....
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Killa, you are such a sad individual. If money was not an issue then why the fsuk are you not on an unshaped uncapped offering and why are you in here discussing a cheap MWeb offering. Are you a cheap skate, tight wad yourself? Silly, silly, silly! :rolleyes:

Oh, and let me see if I have got this right.... you are basing your entire advice on a service that you have been using for precisely, um, one day?!?! :rolleyes:
 
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I am basing it on the fact that the mweb news server is slow lance, this is a fact. I tried it when it first came out and it went at full speed for a couple days and then as people started buying the accounts it went to shyte just like saix and IS. Why would i need a better uncapped solution than what i am using? I have pulled 76 gb this month why on earth would i need something else? 530 bucks is hardly cheap lance.

My point however is you are telling people mweb is not good because you are getting slow speeds on a free news server when you could spend 216 bucks and get a 200gb block of int news server access.

F me 200gb would last long on a 384 line and 216 bucks compared to how much it would cost to purchase all your downloads.

Think about 11 dollars from astraweb a month that is 80 bucks, how much were you paying for 30-50gb of data before uncapped? So take the 384 uncapped plus 70 bucks for astraweb and show me how you could have downloaded 30-50gb of data prior to uncapped for 300 odd bucks?
 
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killadoob said:
Lots of 384 people complaining though, my advice is get the account and see for yourself. There are way to many moles on this forum. Mweb have no cap nor do they limit you to x amount of gb's nor do they limit your line speed after a certain amount of gb's, it is uncapped with shaping during the day :D.

Elvis they limit people who pirate during the day so the rest of their subscribers have fast internet to do their daily chores, at night the piraters can go wild.

Yes i am happy with being able to download 100-300gb a month with no worries about my line speed being dropping to 128kbs. Mweb is the best uncapped solution, if you want full speed pirate networks 24/7 there are 2.4k accounts that will suit your needs.

Elvis your logic is so flawed buddie, afrihost limit you line after 60gb and then limit it more after 100 gb and so on, mweb is simple during the day they shape pirate networks everything else runs 100%.

I would rather do 200gb a month on mweb with shaped stuff during the day than do 100gb on afrihost and have my 4 meg line limited to 128kbs for everything. During the day everything runs at 4 meg on mweb apart from pirate networks no matter how much you downloaded, afrihost limit your line speed after 100gb or something meaning everything you do on the internet will be limited. Mweb is the shyte dude and so what if can only pull 100kb/s a sec during the day on pirate networks everything else runs full speed, i can pull 12gb a day if i wanted to and i did 12 gb last night. It is not about the working hours you should judge mweb it is about the entire 24 hours and i am happy with 12gb a day :D
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The shaping is not limited to the day time. In fact it is quite unpredictable. Their service has also been up and down like a yo-yo. 384 feels the shaping most, so it is not the best option.
 
Maybe so but judging the performance of 384 uncapped when you are using the mweb news server is not really fair in my opinion, very narrow minded and silly considering i have a 4 meg line and cannot even get 384 speeds off the damn thing. I get more speed using int news servers during the day than i do with the mweb news server at 3 in the morning :D
 
killadoob said:
I am basing it on the fact that the mweb news server is slow lance, this is a fact. I tried it when it first came out and it went at full speed for a couple days and then as people started buying the accounts it went to shyte just like saix and IS.
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Ha ha but you are happy to sing the praises of an external server after one day of use! ha ha :rolleyes:

I am not alone in complaining about slow speeds. Further to this I have repeatedly called for transparency relating to their shaping. If the NNTP protocol is shaped on the MWeb news server then why not the Astraweb one? This means they are doing further shaping on their own server, or does it just perform badly. If the latter then how does it explain the people complaining about torrent downloads even after hours. Are they also cheap skate, tight wads?

The OP was also asking about using MWeb. He did not question the use of Astraweb or any other outside service with it. The MWeb news server is included hence me feeling it was reasonable to mention the performance of the said server. If he were buying a Merc I would mention the fitted sound system being below standard. I would not bother talking about the one he can buy and get fitted later. If he asked about that then fair enough it can then be discussed. Don't create a false impression by saying the Merc has an exceptional sound system when you are actually talking about modifications you did!

I also find your hypocrisy in referring to pirates and illegal downloaders quite interesting when there you are milking 75Gb in 12 days so far :rolleyes:
 
Tanya35 said:
The shaping is not limited to the day time. In fact it is quite unpredictable. Their service has also been up and down like a yo-yo. 384 feels the shaping most, so it is not the best option.
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Apparently it is only the two of us experiencing this according the the all-seeing all-knowing oracle of MWeb!
 
No i referred to you downloading stuff worth loads of cash but not willing to spend 80 bucks on a better means to obtain said items. I never said it was wrong. I just pointed out the retarded nature of some piraters who feel they should get everything for cheap just as you do with the news server. I am happy to spend 80 bucks a month to obtain the 75 gb i have thus far, i do not moan about a free news server that is not working at full speed.

I am not saying o mweb are rubbish because my 4 meg line won't go full speed on their free news server. I go pay for a nice fast news server. Each to their own though. All you do is cry like a little baby :D.
 
My 4MB line speeds are very temperamental - but I think its definitely throttled and not shaped - because at various times of the day and night it will set at a constant speed, e.g 50KBs, jump to 100KBs, etc. all in 50KB increments, that can't be shaping.

But I am in generally happy with the 'service' I'm getting for my cash - love not having to worry about a cap - and the speeds being sufficiently fast most of the time.
 
Yea it is throttled without a doubt, how are your 4 meg http downloads during the day? Mine fly at full speed
 
xrapidx said:
My 4MB line speeds are very temperamental - but I think its definitely throttled and not shaped - because at various times of the day and night it will set at a constant speed, e.g 50KBs, jump to 100KBs, etc. all in 50KB increments, that can't be shaping.

But I am in generally happy with the 'service' I'm getting for my cash - love not having to worry about a cap - and the speeds being sufficiently fast most of the time.
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I get the feeling they are doing something along these lines:

Mweb have, say 100 Gb for a fixed number of customers (made up figure). A report says customers have used 60 Gb and it's only the 10th of the month, OMG!! so how do we square the circle. Ahh, ok, let's throttle tighter. We'll give them 6Kb/s instead of 15 on torrents. When complaints pour in they open the taps for a day, but they've already saved. The outages are also saving bandwidth.
 
I've only had one 15min international outage - which was this week. Other than that its been fine

@killa - don't really download when I'm not at home :p Although I've noticed that when I kick of a newsgroup download, it sits at 450KB/s regardless of time for a minute or so then drops the the throttled speed - therefore I'm thinking there is a way around the throttle, maybe continued brief connection/disconnections to fool their software... to much effort for me to look into at the moment though... I don't actually have anything to download :(
 
killadoob said:
I never said it was wrong. I just pointed out the retarded nature of some piraters who feel they should get everything for cheap just as you do with the news server. I am happy to spend 80 bucks a month to obtain the 75 gb i have thus far, i do not moan about a free news server that is not working at full speed.
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So are you saying I am retarded?

It is not free. Not everyone can access it. It is included in your MWeb subscription. That's like saying if I pay for DSTV I should not be upset if 12 channels don't work as they are after all free :rolleyes:
 
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